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Reply #30 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:48pm

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olderndirt wrote on Dec 30^th, 2010 at 9:51pm:

Keep in mind that these shots are bait - embellished beyond default to attract potential buyers. Don't get me wrong, they certainly catch the eye but nothing you can't do with FSX. In one of the final shots there's a jumble of streams and tributaries, all looking like they were lit with neon - imagine what ORBX could do with something like that.

Remember, these are early development shots. So, we might get more than what is in the shots, but not less.

Tree shadows are not possible in FSX. The shadowing on the plane and ground look improved overall as well.

It's not about what can be done in Flight can be done in FSX. The fact that Flight looks better than FSX did out of the box is a good sign. It will hold us off for a few months while developers get the hang of the new techniques.

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Reply #31 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 3:45pm

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I have read all posts here and have a couple of things to add, I have read and heard talk that Flight will not be backwards compatible with FSX add-ons so they can have a whole new engine that will be less taxing on average hardware systems. We as simmers can't have it both ways. As far as it being much better graphics than FSX thats just not the case with the add-ons such as was mentioned earlier. With REX-Overdrive and GEX and ORBX PNW scenery and some others the scenery is nothing short of awesome with good hardware such as i7 9... and 6 gigs of 1600 ram and a GTX460 or above GPU and some great tweaks availible here and a couple other sites you can achive great frames, smooth flight and outstanding graphics. I will take a flight at Tampa International and post a screeny that will look better than those posted by Flight. Wink

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Reply #32 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 4:15pm

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Here is 1 shot

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Reply #33 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 4:24pm

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with all the addons for FSX today (e.g. REX) ... i dont see much difference Huh

Huh

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Reply #34 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 4:29pm

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sorry, disreguard that, looks much better when i look at it for a while, but now your probably going to have to buy an amazing computer to get this at a decent frame rate.

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Reply #35 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 6:17pm

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John Crouse wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 3:45pm:

I have read all posts here and have a couple of things to add, I have read and heard talk that Flight will not be backwards compatible with FSX add-ons so they can have a whole new engine that will be less taxing on average hardware systems. We as simmers can't have it both ways. As far as it being much better graphics than FSX thats just not the case with the add-ons such as was mentioned earlier. With REX-Overdrive and GEX and ORBX PNW scenery and some others the scenery is nothing short of awesome with good hardware such as i7 9... and 6 gigs of 1600 ram and a GTX460 or above GPU and some great tweaks availible here and a couple other sites you can achive great frames, smooth flight and outstanding graphics. I will take a flight at Tampa International and post a screeny that will look better than those posted by Flight. Wink

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Addons really make the sim, though I can imagine that if Flight develops with its own followers of developers, which I'm sure it will, then I can really see a good future out of it. It WILL look better than FSX, I imagine, if the sim gets finished. Its the same thing that happened when FSX came out, and back when FS2004 already look (and still does) look as good as it gets. It will be sad if there is no backward compatibility with FSX addons, which I strongly suspect is the case, but then... I guess some of us will just have to start over again (addon wise) should we choose to try a new sim.

I hope Flight can run on the average computer though, unlike the fiasco at the launch of FSX. TBH, I see a lot of great looking games nowadays that really don't need top-end hardware to run... games that look so real that I can almost touch my screen and feel whats there. I'm optimistic that this sim will be much better optimized... but then, you never know.

Cheers,
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Reply #36 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 6:39pm

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I strongly agree with the two previous posts, I can get the same quality visuals as your sceenshot John, only on my modest box it's running at about 10-15 fps... these early samples are still far away from the final development, and even if it wasn't, we'll achieve that same scene as we did in FS9 and FSX, the same way you just did, with add-ons.

the question here is not so much "How does it look?" as much as it is "How does it run?". I'll be very pleased to have a comprehensive Flight Sim run beautifully on my little (and moderately affordable) set-up.

ps. @RocketBird

Rocket_Bird wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 6:17pm:

TBH, I see a lot of great looking games nowadays that really don't need top-end hardware to run... games that look so real that I can almost touch my screen and feel whats there. I'm optimistic that this sim will be much better

optimized

...

Grin

I couldn't agree more! for those of you with a similar build to mine, check out

Colin McCrae: DIRT 2

or even

Wings of Prey

. I get 60-80 fps with insane levels of realism. Then I hop back into FSX and WEEP... Cry

Cry

Cry

Cry

If FLIGHT runs anywhere near as well, i'll pay double to get my copy.

pss. @ John Crouse - Very nice screenshot man, would love to see it running! post more for us in the showcase! Wink

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Reply #37 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 2:40am

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The problem isn't having a sim that runs great with a beautiful system, which those of you that have posted recently posses: the real issue is being able to run the sim on a system that is not dedicated to the sim.

I ran FS9 on my last system (which I no longer have) beautifully. Nearly maxed, and it ran great. However, I tried the teaser release of FSX, and had between 12 and 15 FPS, so I was not willing to even purchase the release. Let alone the upgrades. So I haven't been impressed in any way with the latest that MS has come out with.

But with Flight, I'm expecting (re: hoping) for some good things. I know it's way too early to tell, but if they rewrite the basic programming, we'll get a much better game. With legacy software, you get shackled into sacrificing quality for efficiency. Not good enough . . .

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Reply #38 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 3:19am

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Addons might make FSX look good too but whats the point. Sure for some FSX is great but it has a few problems

1. Addons can yes make it look good. Although of all the addons for FSX ive tried (GEX, REX, UTX...) It looks like a waste of money if the default Flight looks like the pictures suggest. Plus. MOST addons cost a decent amount of money.

2. FSX being so outdated is so under optimized for todays machines that one person with a Dual core might be able to run it better than someone else with a Quad core. Ex. I have a ATI 4870 1gb with a Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.2ghz with 8gb of DDR3....on MEDIUM settings....im lucky to get 10-15 frames a second. Its a total crap shoot and its because of poor optimization by Mirosoft.

And besides to have a DEFAULT sim look that good without any addons means more money in our pockets, and if its properly optimized it will run 20x smoother than FSX ever could have hoped. Which would mean you wouldn't need a super computer to run it.

I don't understand why some people cant have faith Grin

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Its just like the old "FS2004 will be better than FSX" thing a few years ago.

The past is all thats gone. Lets hope for the future of flight sim.

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Reply #39 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 9:16am

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Travis wrote on Jan 6^th, 2011 at 2:40am:

However, I tried the teaser release of FSX, and had between 12 and 15 FPS, so I was not willing to even purchase the release. Let alone the upgrades. So I haven't been impressed in any way with the latest that MS has come out with.

I understand your point of view, but judging a simulator only from how many FPS you get with it is quite strange, don't you think.
The most important things are the features, once again.

I don't know what kind of real features this MS Flight will bring, but those feature will have to be REALLY EXCEPTIONNAL to manage to take me away from Accusim. And I'm not talking about graphics or number of FPS here.

Got bloom ?
Got mountains ?
Got damage ?

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Reply #40 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 11:15am

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But I see a Maule in the screen shots.
That makes me happy.

Don't know what it is, but I like those little buggers.

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Reply #41 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 2:12pm

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FS9 with add-ons can look as good as FSX
FSX with add-ons can look as good as Flight

Imagine where Flight with add-ons will take us.

All I hope for is they take the time to make the program efficient, providing plenty of eye candy while being able to function well on the average machine, not a $4000 super gamer system. It can be done, they just have to make the program run efficiently.

I remember back to ten years ago. FS98 ran great, FS2000 was a dog, then came FS2002. I could run FS2002 great on a system that would barely get FS2000 going.

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Reply #42 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 5:33pm

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I don't think there is anyway FSX can look as good as Flight.

For one thing, Flight will have full DX10 support and FSX wiil never have the DX10 lighting that Flight will have.
The FSX lighting effects are a complete joke by today's standards.

FXS does not even support scenery MipMapping for most objects.

FSX was dated even as soon as it was originally released!

Also we don't have any idea what Fight will eventually contain.

So, it is premature to say the least to compare Flight to FSX.

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Reply #43 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 10:35pm

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Quote:

But I see a Maule in the screen shots.
That makes me happy.

Don't know what it is, but I like those little buggers.

Me too!

Grin

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@ Davysims - Yes, just imagine where FLIGHT with add-ons could take us!

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Reply #44 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 11:43pm

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You guys amaze me, you bad mouth a great flightsim like FSX and all that it can do and yet say that Flight will be sooo much better when in fact we don't even know for sure that it will support anything short of a glorified online game.

Please do some research about how to make FSX all it can be with some simple tweaks and on a computer that can be built for less than $1500.00 and run and make FSX work amazing.

Microsoft left us high and dry once when they fired Aces, what makes you think its going to be any different this time!

Good luck with Flight your new wonderful sim, I will stick with something that works just great!

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