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Question: Worth it or not?

Yes    
  27 (64.3%)
No    
  5 (11.9%)
Bit of both    
  10 (23.8%)




Total votes: 42
« Created by: concordepilot on: Dec 17th, 2006 at 12:54pm »

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Is FSX worth getting? (Read 1682 times)
Dec 17th, 2006 at 12:53pm
concordepilot   Ex Member

 
I want to know if FSX is worth beacuse i'm thinking of getting it.
What are the good and bad bits about it.
 
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Reply #1 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 12:58pm

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Unless you have an "uber" computer, then my vote is no.

My setup
AMD XP2400 "2.0GB
1Gb  ddr ram
Redeon 9600 pro 128mb

Get about 5-6 fps tops, even with the lowest settings..

I am reverting back to FS9

Wasted £50.00
 
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Reply #2 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 1:08pm
concordepilot   Ex Member

 
Whats a "urber" computer?  Huh
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 1:23pm

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Quote:
Whats a "urber" "uber" computer?  Huh


A very special, very expensive device designed to run FSX faster than 5 FPS....

Available only to those with pots of money.... Wink...!

Paul...Uber Mk1 prototype computer running FS9... Wink... Cool...!

 

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Reply #4 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 1:36pm

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First off, you have to qualify what you mean by "worth getting"

If you mean you mean will you be able to experiment with it and watch it mature over the years with patches etec, than yes it is worth it, assuming you enjoy such things
You will then have to consider it a "work in progress."


On the other hand, if you expect it to run as well as FS9 in is's present state with todays  hardware, be prepared as you might be in for a disapointment.


My advise to you would be if you have the HDD space, get FSX to satistfy your curiosity and watch it mature, etc but, keep your install of FS9.... for the time being at least.


As far as what hardware is needed to run FSX approaching its full poptential (at least up to FS9 levels), no one fully knows yet.
I would suggest that you wait until VISTA is released (FSX wil take some advantage of it)  and see what kinds of hardware people are getting that will benifit FSX the most and upgrade acordingly. Smiley
« Last Edit: Dec 17th, 2006 at 5:43pm by Joe_D »  

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Reply #5 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 1:38pm

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"I want to know if FSX is worth beacuse . . . "
Affirmative (for the aeronautical, literally challenged, that means buy)
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 2:45pm

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If you just want better graphics, then NO, you don't need FSX, just be happy with FS9, because FSX requires too much power to be beautifull.

If you don't care about graphics and just need a simulator better than FS9, then YES, FSX is for you. Later, if you get some money to spend on your computer, you will even be able to upgrade to get better graphics as well Smiley

I just tried the FSX demo and now I can't play FS9 anymore   Undecided
 
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Reply #7 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 6:28pm

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Daube wrote on Dec 17th, 2006 at 2:45pm:
If you just want better graphics, then NO, you don't need FSX, just be happy with FS9, because FSX requires too much power to be beautifull.

If you don't care about graphics and just need a simulator better than FS9, then YES, FSX is for you. Later, if you get some money to spend on your computer, you will even be able to upgrade to get better graphics as well Smiley

I just tried the FSX demo and now I can't play FS9 anymore   Undecided


Two things:
FSX is ALL about graphics as this is basically all that has been upgraded in FSX.
Also if all you have experience with is the demo, then you are most likely not aware of the full scope of the problems people are having in more densely populated areas of FSX. Smiley
 

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Reply #8 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 6:36pm
Jakemaster   Ex Member

 
Yes and no.  Regardless of all the performance problems, its FUN.  The missions are fun, the helicopters are great, and gliding is a blast.  But its a performance hog and doing anything besides the missions gets to be a PITA.  I like FSX, but I prefer FS9 for my commercial flying because then I can have a lot of good traffic and such, but if Im in the mood for some fun I go to FSX.
 
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Reply #9 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 7:58pm

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Quote:
FSX is ALL about graphics as this is basically all that has been upgraded in FSX.



Not true..  

-the virtual cockpits are much better
-the virtual cockpit physics add incredibly realistic feel
-multi-player is much better, smoother and realistic
-all the default planes are payware quality
-the multi-player tower mode is a "game" worth buying it its own right
-the customizable views are a lot of fun
-the sounds and the way they're rendered are better
-roads, rivers, lakes and towns are better and more accurate for TRUE VFR flight/navigation
-the flight dynamics are SO much better, it's worth it just for that

Even with autogen and scenery density turned down.. the sky, clouds, water and land textures are better..

And if you have the computer.. the whole visual effect is probably the biggest improvement jump since FS98-to-FS2000


Edit.. almost forgot.. You can share a plane in multi-player.. sit right seat even.  and either one of you can do the flying..
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 8:09pm
Nick N   Ex Member

 
Brett_Henderson wrote on Dec 17th, 2006 at 7:58pm:
Quote:
FSX is ALL about graphics as this is basically all that has been upgraded in FSX.



Not true..  

-the virtual cockpits are much better
-the virtual cockpit physics add incredibly realistic feel
-multi-player is much better, smoother and realistic
-all the default planes are payware quality
-the multi-player tower mode is a "game" worth buying it its own right
-the customizable views are a lot of fun
-the sounds and the way they're rendered are better
-roads, rivers, lakes and towns are better and more accurate for TRUE VFR flight/navigation
-the flight dynamics are SO much better, it's worth it just for that

Even with autogen and scenery density turned down.. the sky, clouds, water and land textures are better..

And if you have the computer.. the whole visual effect is probably the biggest improvement jump since FS98-to-FS2000


I believe the above opinion is from a real pilot which also lends to the value in the software.


It comes down to if one must have massive visual scenery over functions. There are those who expect FSX to display visuals like FS9 on the same hardware and that is not going to happen, not by a long shot.

The term 'worth' is based on the person who may wish to try the software. If what you are after (right now) is frames and endless perfect scenery, stay with FS9 however if you are will to accept the limits of your hardware, run the sliders at what the hardware will run, plan to upgrade hardware and grow with FSX, then learning the new sim and how to work with it as time goes on, along with the perks and upgrades the software has to offer over FS9, may be 'worth' the investment.

You can also run both too.


 
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Reply #11 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 9:37pm

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Morning,

I to have reverted back to FS2004. I have 128MB on my Laptop's graphic card and in order to run FSX, had to run all the sliders down to low or minimal. What's the point having all this dynamic scenery-moving airways, fuel trucks etc etc-if you can't see 'em because it won't run with all that scenery running.

And with that in mind....I'll hold onto it till I win the lottery and can afford a better laptop.

My thoughts for what thier worth.

Mark
 
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Reply #12 - Dec 17th, 2006 at 10:20pm
DizZa   Ex Member

 
If you have lots of Payware addons for Flight Simulator 9, don't get fsX. If you have a slow computer, don't get fsX. If you have a fast computer, no payware addons, jump right in. fsX is far superior than fs9 provided you can run it.

I wouldn't bother if you have a computer bellow the following:
AMD 3500+, Pentium 4 650
1-2gb RAM (Not sure)
X850XT

And with fsX, you MUST KNOW HOW TO OPTIMIZE IT AND YOUR SYSTEM!

Quote:

FSX is ALL about graphics as this is basically all that has been upgraded in FSX.

Ugh. No it isn't.

Multiplayer
Tower mode
Default planes are easily payware quality
Improved Flight Dynamics
Missions
100 000feet limit dropped (They changed the way the Earth is drawn enabling this)
Head latency effect
Improved view system (If you don't understand this don't comment)
Simconnect
 
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Reply #13 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 1:17am

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In addition to the above features listed:

  • Inverse kenetics - skin and bones
  • Support for 2 sound cards
  • Better stall effects on certain default aircraft
  • 10,000 accurately placed stars on the night sky for realistic star navigation


And like Nick N said. People have their own definition of the term "worth". In my opinion, I feel that the terrain higher texture resolution of FSX looks better and more realistic than the autogen. Thus, I fly without the autogen. Another thing I noticed is that the transition between the sharp textures close to me and the blurred textures that are in the distance is much smoother than what in FSX.
Please note that the performance I receive with my rig* at its current settings* are without any tweeks whatsoever to the fsx.cfg file.


Click here for the Ravenna shots in FSX
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 1:47pm

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I'll just add that the vast majority of improvement listed here are just graphical in nature.

BTW, the flight model has not been changed acording to ACES. What has been done is the flight model of the default ac has been tweaked within the constraints of the old flight model. Smiley
 

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