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Nov 30^th, 2011 at 2:33pm

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http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/334/f/a/fab39d15d31194c3da815f42c8daf...

I actually laughed at this when I finished drawing it! Grin

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Reply #1 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 3:18pm

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Surely the dream of any commuter!

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Reply #2 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 3:35pm

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I reckon it would be possible to make. We would just need two highly rotative and lightweight electric motors on each side rotor and then just use the bernouli's principle to accelerate the air coming out even more. The horizontal engines would be two or three small fanjets like the ones on the wingsuit just for forward motion and pitch stability, using TVNs...

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Reply #3 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 3:43pm

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hhhmmm,you need to make the back gear stronger,its a bit thin and how many wheels are there?
2? Grin

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Reply #4 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 4:07pm

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There are two on the front and one on the back. This is a taildragger, most of the weight is above the two main wheels. The tail gear is fixed.

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Reply #5 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:00pm

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are you gonna make this for fsx? looks fun to fly Grin

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Reply #6 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:20pm

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Yes, it's a fast plane to make... I'm already making it's fuselage. I'm about half of the canopy from the nose tip...

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Reply #7 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:55pm

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You'd need some pretty awesome Gyros in there for stabilization. And I'd say ducted fans would be better for engines. You don't want to give your wife 3rd degree burns when you leave for work! Grin

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Reply #8 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 7:14pm

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Yeah, that's what I though. And jet engines won't fit there. I would either go with electric ducted fans or use the rotation of small jet engines like the ones that are in the wing suit. And try to push the bernouli principle to the limit with the duct.

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Reply #9 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 9:10pm

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Made me think of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XF-85_Goblin

Notoriously dangerous. It had 6 vertical fins for stability, and that wasn't enough

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Reply #10 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 5:00am

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Jayhawk Jake wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 9:10pm:

Made me think of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XF-85_Goblin

Notoriously dangerous. It had 6 vertical fins for stability, and that wasn't enough

Now I know where the Beech 1900 came from Grin

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Reply #11 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 6:48am

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Jayhawk Jake wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 9:10pm:

Made me think of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XF-85_Goblin

Notoriously dangerous. It had 6 vertical fins for stability, and that wasn't enough

Yep I know that one. But it only has one point of thrust thus making controling it kinda like holding a plate on the other tip of a really thin pole. Mine uses two vertical thrust souces mounted in alignment with the CG and 3 horizontal thrust sources with thrust vectoring nozzles to maintain pitch stability at 0 speed. Which, using an analogy like the previous, is like holding a plate with three fingers.

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Reply #12 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 6:44pm

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Starting to texture the bigger parts:

Oh and mods, can you move this thread to the appropriate sub-forum? i.e. Aircraft & 3D design?

Thanks!

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Reply #13 - Dec 3^rd, 2011 at 5:12am

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its starting to turn out more like the fiat panda of the skies. Grin

you are a bit late,this would've be great in the contest. Wink

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Reply #14 - Dec 3^rd, 2011 at 6:11pm

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Lol, yeah.
Anyways, testing the 2048px texture details:

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Reply #15 - Dec 6^th, 2011 at 4:45pm

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Not much has been done but:

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Reply #16 - Dec 7^th, 2011 at 9:36pm

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Why no love for the little plane?

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Reply #17 - Dec 7^th, 2011 at 10:01pm

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How long will it take to finish? So far it looks pretty cool. Wink

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Reply #18 - Dec 16^th, 2011 at 10:03am

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I have no idea! I was intending to finish it on the christmas break but that won't be possible anymore because I have finals in early january!!! Shocked

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Reply #19 - Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 8:19am

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Mapped some more stuff:

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Reply #20 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 6:02am

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A few more renders and Merry Christmas y'all!

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Reply #21 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 2:49pm

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Looks great. I can't wait. Cheesy

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Reply #22 - Dec 27^th, 2011 at 11:47am

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Thanks!
I've been making some flight dynamics tests... The plane flyes pretty well, though, if you make a hard landing it will scrape its nose on the ground by pitching down REALLY slowly after touchdown... Shocked

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Reply #23 - Dec 28^th, 2011 at 7:09am

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Wow, such quick progress and its coming along very nicely. The best thing about creating your own aircraft is pure artistic license in its design. With that said any ideas for a cokpit layout?

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Reply #24 - Dec 28^th, 2011 at 9:25am

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Hey! Yeah, you can believe that! But I also make the mechanics in order for them to make sense when animating. The landing gear took me about 1 day of thinking how was I going to retract and fit the wheels inside such a small space...
I haven't thought of the cockpit yet... I made some sketches in the corner of my linear algebra book, but nothing more... Grin

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Reply #25 - Jan 6^th, 2012 at 7:02pm

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So, here's the first painscheme:
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2181/vpav1apaint1.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4825/vpav1apiant.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1786/vpav1apaintrt.jpg

Still a lot of stuff to texture in the exterior... Cheesy

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Reply #26 - Jan 7^th, 2012 at 10:04am

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Xpand wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

So, here's the first painscheme:
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2181/vpav1apaint1.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4825/vpav1apiant.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1786/vpav1apaintrt.jpg

Still a lot of stuff to texture in the exterior... Cheesy

Reminds me of ships from WipEout, I like it!

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Reply #27 - Jan 7^th, 2012 at 2:33pm

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I do hope you will finish this one Tongue

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But it looks great. It reminds me of a fiat 500 (the new one) Shocked

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Reply #28 - Jan 7^th, 2012 at 3:04pm

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Jayhawk Jake wrote on Jan 7^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Reminds me of ships from WipEout, I like it!

LOL, wipeout is my second middle name! Grin

I love the goddamn game. Been playing it since 1999 'till today.
I actually have a few renders of wipeout ships models I made in my deviant art gallery:
http://threedmaniak.deviantart.com/

But, yeah, it kinda looks like them! Wink

And hyperpep, don't worry, I'll finish this one. I'm only moving slower because of the final exams in college.

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Reply #29 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:20am

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I'm just discovering this topic !!
What a great little Sci-Fi aircraft, I love those. That exterior model is excellent, and the textures are producing a nice metallic/military impression. Do you plan to add a VC to it ?

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Reply #30 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 11:06am

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Thanks! Yes, I will add a VC to it. It will be similar in style with the S-46 Orca cockpit....

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Reply #31 - Jan 13^th, 2012 at 5:19pm

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Xpand wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

Thanks! Yes, I will add a VC to it. It will be similar in style with the S-46 Orca cockpit....

i think it should also be a bit car-like.
since this would be a "normal man's" aircraft.
looking nice so far,think i'll take repainting up again. Wink

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Reply #32 - Jan 13^th, 2012 at 6:12pm

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When I say like the Orca, I mean with the same HUD style and stuff like that. The controls are going to be similar to those of the S-4A prototype (If you don't know it just search simv for S-4A Prototype)

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Reply #33 - Jan 13^th, 2012 at 6:26pm

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Looking forward to it Xpand. Any chance of a release date?

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Reply #34 - Jan 13^th, 2012 at 6:39pm

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No way man. I had very bad experiences with setting release dates before. Heck, acording to the release date, my F-22 would have been released almost 2 years ago...

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Reply #35 - Jan 25^th, 2012 at 5:16pm

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how is the project going?
sorry for the bump but i am curious. Wink

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Reply #36 - Jan 25^th, 2012 at 5:25pm

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Yes how is it going Xpand? Looking forward to it, might have to do a paint for it.

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Reply #37 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:10am

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By the way, what kind of flight model are you intending to use ? Plane or helicopter ?
I'm guessing helicopter.

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Reply #38 - Jan 26^th, 2012 at 8:53am

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Nope, VTOL plane. You have to lower the flaps in FS to make it take off vertically...
And I still have exams until next monday, so no play time until there....

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Reply #39 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:49pm

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Back to work on the "beast"! Grin

Textured most of the exterior. Only the landing gear and stuff related to that is left to be mapped and textured. Also some details I haven't added yet. I've also been playing around with the bump map.
Next stop: Cockpit

The flight characteristics are nice too. Though when you land it seems like the plane has landed on a pillow and, after touching down and stoping the plane, it slowly rotates to the "rest" position.

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Reply #40 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:10pm

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Good job.

If you need a beta tester just ask.

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Reply #41 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:24pm

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K, thanks!
Just remember to remind me of that when I make another update.

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Reply #42 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:48pm

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Its looking ~~nice~~ ugly. Grin

Is there a paintkit/fully white paint?
Just curious. Wink

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Reply #43 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:54pm

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Lol.
Yeah, I'm going to include the actual PSD file to make things easier.

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Reply #44 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 4:29pm

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Thanks for saying you'll include the PSD it will make it easier to repaint.

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Reply #45 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 2:06am

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Loking good Cool

maybe you could make a us border patrol paint or police dept. But really looking forward to have it in my collection

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Reply #46 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 8:46pm

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Sweet

Can't wait for it to come out

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Reply #47 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 10:09pm

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Video preview. It has been a while since I made any progress in this plane. I've been so busy with university work. It's madening...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diRJ-vTNOQI&feature=youtu.be

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Reply #48 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 12:01am

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3DS Max.

Isn't that 5,000 Dollars?

Great video. Wink

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Reply #49 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 8:21am

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Yeah, but I was lucky my father had a copy with license for his work. He didn't use it anymore and I didn't know about this until around one year ago. Grin

It's not the latest version, it's actually kinda old: Max 8. I actually found it when I was storing some computer related stuff in the attic. My father didn't even remembered he had it! lol
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Reply #50 - Apr 19^th, 2012 at 9:58pm

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You actually are in luck - Max 8 was the last version supported by the FS-X SDK tools.

You can also now use the Lockheed Prepare 3D (henceforth known as P3D) SDK .... P3D is the FS-X core (originally Microsoft's ESP) with MAx8 (and higher)

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