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Title: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 2:33pm

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/334/f/a/fab39d15d31194c3da815f42c8dafb79-d4hrcs7.jpg

I actually laughed at this when I finished drawing it! ;D

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Dave71k on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 3:18pm

Surely the dream of any commuter!

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 3:35pm

I reckon it would be possible to make. We would just need two highly rotative and lightweight electric motors on each side rotor and then just use the bernouli's principle to accelerate the air coming out even more. The horizontal engines would be two or three small fanjets like the ones on the wingsuit just for forward motion and pitch stability, using TVNs...

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by jetprop on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 3:43pm

hhhmmm,you need to make the back gear stronger,its a bit thin and how many wheels are there?
2? ;D

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 4:07pm

There are two on the front and one on the back. This is a taildragger, most of the weight is above the two main wheels. The tail gear is fixed.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by c130lover on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:00pm

are you gonna make this for fsx? looks fun to fly ;D

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:20pm

Yes, it's a fast plane to make... I'm already making it's fuselage. I'm about half of the canopy from the nose tip...

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Dave71k on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:55pm

You'd need some pretty awesome Gyros in there for stabilization. And I'd say ducted fans would be better for engines. You don't want to give your wife 3rd degree burns when you leave for work! ;D

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 7:14pm

Yeah, that's what I though. And jet engines won't fit there. I would either go with electric ducted fans or use the rotation of small jet engines like the ones that are in the wing suit. And try to push the bernouli principle to the limit with the duct.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Jayhawk Jake on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 9:10pm

Made me think of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XF-85_Goblin

Notoriously dangerous. It had 6 vertical fins for stability, and that wasn't enough

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by expat on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 5:00am

Jayhawk Jake wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 9:10pm:

Made me think of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XF-85_Goblin

Notoriously dangerous. It had 6 vertical fins for stability, and that wasn't enough

Now I know where the Beech 1900 came from ;D ;D

Matt

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 6:48am

Jayhawk Jake wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 9:10pm:

Made me think of this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_XF-85_Goblin

Notoriously dangerous. It had 6 vertical fins for stability, and that wasn't enough

Yep I know that one. But it only has one point of thrust thus making controling it kinda like holding a plate on the other tip of a really thin pole. Mine uses two vertical thrust souces mounted in alignment with the CG and 3 horizontal thrust sources with thrust vectoring nozzles to maintain pitch stability at 0 speed. Which, using an analogy like the previous, is like holding a plate with three fingers.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 6:44pm

Starting to texture the bigger parts:

Oh and mods, can you move this thread to the appropriate sub-forum? i.e. Aircraft & 3D design?

Thanks!

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by jetprop on Dec 3^rd, 2011 at 5:12am

its starting to turn out more like the fiat panda of the skies. ;D

you are a bit late,this would've be great in the contest. ;)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 3^rd, 2011 at 6:11pm

Lol, yeah.
Anyways, testing the 2048px texture details:

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 4:45pm

Not much has been done but:

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 9:36pm

Why no love for the little plane?

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by andy190 on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 10:01pm

How long will it take to finish? So far it looks pretty cool. ;)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 16^th, 2011 at 10:03am

I have no idea! I was intending to finish it on the christmas break but that won't be possible anymore because I have finals in early january!!! :o

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 23^rd, 2011 at 8:19am

Mapped some more stuff:

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 6:02am

A few more renders and Merry Christmas y'all!

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by andy190 on Dec 24^th, 2011 at 2:49pm

Looks great. I can't wait. :D
Merry Christmas two you to. :)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 27^th, 2011 at 11:47am

Thanks!
I've been making some flight dynamics tests... The plane flyes pretty well, though, if you make a hard landing it will scrape its nose on the ground by pitching down REALLY slowly after touchdown... :o

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Mitch. on Dec 28^th, 2011 at 7:09am

Wow, such quick progress and its coming along very nicely. The best thing about creating your own aircraft is pure artistic license in its design. With that said any ideas for a cokpit layout?

8-)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Dec 28^th, 2011 at 9:25am

Hey! Yeah, you can believe that! But I also make the mechanics in order for them to make sense when animating. The landing gear took me about 1 day of thinking how was I going to retract and fit the wheels inside such a small space...
I haven't thought of the cockpit yet... I made some sketches in the corner of my linear algebra book, but nothing more... ;D

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 7:02pm

So, here's the first painscheme:
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2181/vpav1apaint1.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4825/vpav1apiant.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1786/vpav1apaintrt.jpg

Still a lot of stuff to texture in the exterior... :D

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Jayhawk Jake on Jan 7^th, 2012 at 10:04am

Xpand wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

Reminds me of ships from WipEout, I like it!

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by hyperpep111 on Jan 7^th, 2012 at 2:33pm

I do hope you will finish this one :P ;).
But it looks great. It reminds me of a fiat 500 (the new one) :o.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Jan 7^th, 2012 at 3:04pm

Jayhawk Jake wrote on Jan 7^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Reminds me of ships from WipEout, I like it!

LOL, wipeout is my second middle name! ;D
I love the goddamn game. Been playing it since 1999 'till today.
I actually have a few renders of wipeout ships models I made in my deviant art gallery:
http://threedmaniak.deviantart.com/

But, yeah, it kinda looks like them! ;)
And hyperpep, don't worry, I'll finish this one. I'm only moving slower because of the final exams in college.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Daube on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:20am

I'm just discovering this topic !!
What a great little Sci-Fi aircraft, I love those. That exterior model is excellent, and the textures are producing a nice metallic/military impression. Do you plan to add a VC to it ?

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 11:06am

Thanks! Yes, I will add a VC to it. It will be similar in style with the S-46 Orca cockpit....

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by jetprop on Jan 13^th, 2012 at 5:19pm

Xpand wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

Thanks! Yes, I will add a VC to it. It will be similar in style with the S-46 Orca cockpit....

i think it should also be a bit car-like.
since this would be a "normal man's" aircraft.
looking nice so far,think i'll take repainting up again. ;)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Jan 13^th, 2012 at 6:12pm

When I say like the Orca, I mean with the same HUD style and stuff like that. The controls are going to be similar to those of the S-4A prototype (If you don't know it just search simv for S-4A Prototype)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by andy190 on Jan 13^th, 2012 at 6:26pm

Looking forward to it Xpand. Any chance of a release date? :)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Jan 13^th, 2012 at 6:39pm

No way man. I had very bad experiences with setting release dates before. Heck, acording to the release date, my F-22 would have been released almost 2 years ago...

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by jetprop on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 5:16pm

how is the project going?
sorry for the bump but i am curious. ;)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by andy190 on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 5:25pm

Yes how is it going Xpand? Looking forward to it, might have to do a paint for it. :)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Daube on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 6:10am

By the way, what kind of flight model are you intending to use ? Plane or helicopter ?
I'm guessing helicopter.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 8:53am

Nope, VTOL plane. You have to lower the flaps in FS to make it take off vertically...
And I still have exams until next monday, so no play time until there....

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:49pm

Back to work on the "beast"! ;D

Textured most of the exterior. Only the landing gear and stuff related to that is left to be mapped and textured. Also some details I haven't added yet. I've also been playing around with the bump map.
Next stop: Cockpit

The flight characteristics are nice too. Though when you land it seems like the plane has landed on a pillow and, after touching down and stoping the plane, it slowly rotates to the "rest" position.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by andy190 on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:10pm

Good job. ;)

If you need a beta tester just ask. :)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:24pm

K, thanks!
Just remember to remind me of that when I make another update.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by jetprop on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:48pm

Its looking ~~nice~~ ugly. ;D

Is there a paintkit/fully white paint?
Just curious. ;)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:54pm

Lol.
Yeah, I'm going to include the actual PSD file to make things easier.

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by andy190 on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 4:29pm

Thanks for saying you'll include the PSD it will make it easier to repaint. :)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Raoul98 on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 2:06am

Loking good 8-) maybe you could make a us border patrol paint or police dept. But really looking forward to have it in my collection :)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by SkyHawk00 on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 8:46pm

Sweet 8-) 8-)
Can't wait for it to come out

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 10:09pm

Video preview. It has been a while since I made any progress in this plane. I've been so busy with university work. It's madening...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diRJ-vTNOQI&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by andy190 on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 12:01am

3DS Max. :o Isn't that 5,000 Dollars?

Great video. ;)

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Xpand on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 8:21am

Yeah, but I was lucky my father had a copy with license for his work. He didn't use it anymore and I didn't know about this until around one year ago. ;D It's not the latest version, it's actually kinda old: Max 8. I actually found it when I was storing some computer related stuff in the attic. My father didn't even remembered he had it! lol
Thanks!

Title: Re: The mini of the skies?
Post by Felix/FFDS on Apr 19^th, 2012 at 9:58pm

You actually are in luck - Max 8 was the last version supported by the FS-X SDK tools.

You can also now use the Lockheed Prepare 3D (henceforth known as P3D) SDK .... P3D is the FS-X core (originally Microsoft's ESP) with MAx8 (and higher)