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Oct 28th, 2011 at 12:33pm

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i finaly made an aircraft with more then 20 polys!
its an improved version of the one i showed a long time ago:
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i don't know anything about animations and i failed at the gear over and over again+i can't export so i may just give it to someone with more knowlage. Undecided
but what do you guys think about it?

i will soon do a polycount but i think its about 1000...
it doesn't look like it has much polys in the pics but you must remember the body+cockpit window.
 

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Reply #1 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 1:00pm

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Looking good Jetprop.I don't really know about that stuff. Undecided
 

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Reply #2 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 1:11pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 12:33pm:
i finaly made an aircraft with more then 20 polys!
its an improved version of the one i showed a long time ago:
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i can't export so i may just give it to someone with more knowlage. Undecided



I told yesterday to Skoker how to , check in the bottom of this topic and second page

/yabb?num=1319483899/0#0
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 1:26pm

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there isn't anything with fsxgamepack....
not in the sdk or gmax...
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 2:02pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 1:26pm:
there isn't anything with fsxgamepack....
not in the sdk or gmax...

yes there is , I can't remember right now where exactly is in the FSX-SDK-SP2 or aceleration, is a folder that has those 9 files , it says, FSX_GmaxGamePack  Wink

I think you also need to download FSX_SDK_Sp1 and FSX_SDK_SP2
 

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Reply #5 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 2:08pm

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in the sdk part i only have the 'kits' and in the gmax part i only have the installer and the help files(wich i can't open because i don't have winzip).

and i have both service packs so...
 

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Reply #6 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 2:24pm

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ok it isn't there.
i used search,i looked up tutorials but the folder isn't on this computer!
i have installed the sdk properly but it just isn't there!
 

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Reply #7 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 3:07pm

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Ok lets calm down , I will give you this link that have instructions where is the files and how to install it

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installing_FSX_GMax_gamepack
 

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Reply #8 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 3:42pm

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tried that already.
didn't work.
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:04pm

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You're using gmax right? Go to the FSX SDK instalation folder (Microsoft games). Go to this directory: SDK/Environment kit/Modeling sdk/FSX_GMAXGamepack
and start gmax from the link presented there.
That is all you have to do. (IF you have the FSX SDK)
 

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Reply #10 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:16pm

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thats the problem:there is no FSX_GMAXGamepack.
sorry if i apear abit rude/impatient but...(i need to stop using ... all the time.)


this is my eviroment folder thing:
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Reply #11 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:37pm

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You seem to be lacking the 3dsm9 folder as well...
But that's the first instalation or did you instal SP1, SP1a and Acceleration already?
 

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Reply #12 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 5:23am

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i am actualy not sure.
i have fsx gold edition and from what i can tell not many people have that.(gold edition= fsx deluxe and acceleration)


did a polycount on the new version,well,i think 10000 is a bit too much. Cheesy
how do i remove excess polygons?
 

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Reply #13 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 6:43am

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Bah, I have 35k on the Orca and 37k on the Blackfish. Not to mention the YAK-15, which is only at 40% and already has 30k....
That won't be a problem... But check the acceleration disk for the SP1a and Acceleration SDK

You can't simply remove them. Deleting them will create holes in the plane and won't make any diference in helping you to reduce the polycount. You should account for that when you are starting the plane from the basic shape.
 

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Reply #14 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 7:52am

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ok thanks for the advice.
i will just have to cope with the slow loading.
 

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Reply #15 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 8:27am

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You can add an 'optimize' modifier from the modifier stack. Play around with the varibles, you should be able to find the right balance between detail and polygon count. However, 10k in polys in nothing my Starship currently sits at 80k, I have 10k in the engine nacelles alone. Grin
 


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Reply #16 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 10:20am

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haha.

but thanks guys,it worked. Smiley Smiley Smiley
i am going to export soon and i will see what i got. Smiley



well,i exported it but a tiny problem:its flying backwards. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
i must turn the model around but then i am ready for learning how to do animations and textures.(someday Roll Eyes )


ok another problem:it only flies backwards.
i tried to turn the model around but to no avail.
anyone know what the prob is?
yeah i know,i have lots of problems. Cheesy
 

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Reply #17 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 11:34am

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In gmax the front view is the rear of the plane and the back view is the front. In the left view, the plane must have the nose oriented to your left.
 

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Reply #18 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 11:41am

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ok thanks.
i will try,i think i had that at first but...
 

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Reply #19 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 11:49am

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sorry if posting twice in a row isn't allowed(it isn't on some forums)

it didn't work.
its still flying backwards.

i know you are getting sick of me. XD
 

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Reply #20 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 12:08pm

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Weird... Check the fuselage's Pivot. Align it to world... Did you remember to export after you made the changes?  Grin
 

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Reply #21 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 12:13pm

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i never forget things! Roll Eyes Grin

but it didn't work,will i try and move the pivot point around?
 

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Reply #22 - Nov 4th, 2011 at 5:39pm

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Taken from here

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jetprop wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 3:59pm:
nice Cool

i still need to get my aircraft to fly the right way around.  Cheesy


Is that it? Is that all the silly trouble ,man you should ask  Undecided 
Please take a note How many squares (Meters) approximately take beeween from 2 to 4 squares of the gmax,I'm like here making like a learjet or a bit bigger using 8 and a half square size from the tip of each wing distance appart of course I'm sure you haven't touch the Grids and snap settings ,By default it sets to 10.0 ( I believe each quare is a meter ,Not sure ,can't remember)

:Take a look


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Do and exercise reduce the size of you project to a similar as and example SET it in the same position I'm showing to you  I'm showing to you..Latter we will deal with the real size of YOUR airplane


 

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Reply #23 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:31am

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hhhmmm.
i think i already tried that but i will check.

and what are the coordinates?

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Do and exercise reduce the size of you project to a similar as and example SET it in the same position I'm showing to you 

what does that mean?
sorry but that sentence is a bit hard to read.
« Last Edit: Nov 5th, 2011 at 8:53am by jetprop »  

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Reply #24 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:43am

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jetprop wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:31am:
hhhmmm.
i think i already tried that but i will check.

and what are the coordinates?

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Do and exercise reduce the size of you project to a similar as and example SET it in the same position I'm showing to you 

what does that mean?
sorry but that sentence is a bit hard to read.


ahhahaha  Grin sorry, you know English isn't my native language

what I was trying to tell you is to follow as much as possible the same way is in my pics ,Size, and position ,The views:Top, left, and front (which you would put it backwards ) should work.. Wink


 

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Reply #25 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 10:12am

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i have it like that for ages...
i don't know whats wrong.
if i don't fix it i am just going to make something else. Undecided
 

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Reply #26 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 2:18am

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I've had a similar problem with the JBizz . Have you tried to select the Exterior part ( or the first part in your hierarchy), and reset the X-Form?
 

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Reply #27 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 3:28am

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no,i will try that when i come back from school.
 

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Reply #28 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 8:59am

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Cool. It will probably rotate your aircraft in a 90 deg orientation, but then, after resetting the X =Form, you can rotate it back to the position it need to be. Hope it helps!
 

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Reply #29 - Nov 8th, 2011 at 10:03am

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where is the x-form?
you mean the x-axis?
 

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Reply #30 - Nov 8th, 2011 at 10:18am

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Try to do a simpler thing: open gmax
make a cube
make a pyramid with said cube so that the point is faced left on the left view.
Export.
If the problem remains that means that it's some internal gmax thing.
 

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