Simviation Forum - Ant's Tiger Moth

Jun 4^th, 2012 at 4:45pm

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Good afternoon all...

I just downloaded Ant's Tiger Moth and did a quick flight.

What I noticed is:
-No rudder movement
-Tailwheel does not move left or right on the ground

Is there a fix for this?

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Reply #1 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 4:56pm

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Isn't there a mecanism similar to the T-6 ? Like, you need to keep the stick forward or backwards to unlock the tailwheel ?

EDIT: confirmed => stick full forward to unlock the tailwheel.
Also, one of the contact points needs a small correction. Quoted fr omWarwick Carte himself:
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point.2= 1, 2.270, 4.300, -6.15, 1875,

2

, 1.100, 0.000, 0.500, 1.600, 0.423, 3.100, 5.300, 2, 132.1, 150.3

point 2 should have 2 instead of a 1

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Reply #2 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 4:58pm

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I don't have that isue I think,I'll check when my backup is FINALY done...

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Reply #3 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 7:20pm

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Thanks "jetprop"...

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Reply #4 - Jun 4^th, 2012 at 7:21pm

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Okay...thanks Stephane...much appreciated... Wink

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Reply #5 - Jun 5^th, 2012 at 2:37am

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Daube wrote on Jun 4^th, 2012 at 4:56pm:

Isn't there a mecanism similar to the T-6 ? Like, you need to keep the stick forward or backwards to unlock the tailwheel ?

EDIT: confirmed => stick full forward to unlock the tailwheel.

That surprises me. I've never seen a Tiger Moth with a lockable tailwheel. You would usually taxi a taildragger with the stick hard back to keep the tail down.

I don't recall having this problem with Ant's Tiger.

Edit: Just checked it out. It works normally for me.

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Reply #6 - Jun 5^th, 2012 at 3:29am

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It just works normally for me. :S

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Reply #7 - Jun 5^th, 2012 at 6:09am

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My mistake again...should have said:

-Castoring Tailwheel

This download does not show the Rudder moving or the Tailwheel moving.

Have deleted the Ant's download as Stephane's Fix did not work either.

Will try another site for a download... Wink

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Reply #8 - Jun 5^th, 2012 at 7:17am

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Good morning all...

Ok...here is what I did:

-Downloaded Ant's Tiger Moth from the Ant's site...
used Auto Installer
Rudder still does not move left or right
Tail wheel does not move left or right
Uninstalled

-Downloaded Ant's Tiger Moth from the Simviation FSX>Vintage Downloads
-used Auto Installer (that is all I could find)
Rudder still does not move left or right
Tail wheel does not move left or right
Will uninstall

Not sure but I am wondering if the computer needs to be restarted after the download?
Nope that did not work either... Grin

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView...

The Vintage Wings Tiger Moth is a Canadian-built DH.82C. Manufactured in Toronto in 1942, the DH.82C has several differences from its British cousin and forerunner. Canadian Tigers have a free-castoring tailwheel – which cannot be locked – instead of a tail skid. Canadian Tigers had canopies installed, to permit training in the harsh North American winters. Canadian Tigers also have brakes. There are scores of other differences – which Tiger Moth aficionados take great pride in reciting. Photo: John Davies

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Reply #9 - Jun 5^th, 2012 at 12:21pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 7:17am:

Good morning all...

Ok...here is what I did:

-Downloaded Ant's Tiger Moth from the Ant's site...
used Auto Installer
Rudder still does not move left or right
Tail wheel does not move left or right
Uninstalled

-Downloaded Ant's Tiger Moth from the Simviation FSX>Vintage Downloads
-used Auto Installer (that is all I could find)
Rudder still does not move left or right
Tail wheel does not move left or right
Will uninstall

Not sure but I am wondering if the computer needs to be restarted after the download?
Nope that did not work either... Grin

Doug. I've had Ant's Tiger Moth since it was first released. Not sure where I downloaded it (probably Simviation) but I've never had a problem with it. (See my shot below.)
I've just checked & it's version 1.1.

There should be no need to restart the computer after installing any aircraft to MSFS.

Quote:

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView...

The Vintage Wings Tiger Moth is a Canadian-built DH.82C. Manufactured in Toronto in 1942, the DH.82C has several differences from its British cousin and forerunner. Canadian Tigers have a free-castoring tailwheel – which cannot be locked – instead of a tail skid. Canadian Tigers had canopies installed, to permit training in the harsh North American winters. Canadian Tigers also have brakes. There are scores of other differences – which Tiger Moth aficionados take great pride in reciting. Photo: John Davies

The original DH.82A Tiger Moth has a steerable tailskid & no brakes. I assume Ant's Tiger Moth is the Australian built version with brakes & a steerable tailwheel attached to the rudder like this one. http://www.ausairpower.net/HISTORICAL-RAAF/De-Havilland-Australia-DH-82A-Tiger-M...

Here's a shot of it in my FSX. Note that the rudder worked straight after loading with the elevator in neutral.

These are the contact points entries in my version. Note the tailwheel_lock entry is disabled.
The value in red is the tailwheel steering angle (30 degrees left & right) which means it's steerable & not free castoring..

[contact_points]

static_pitch = 10.360
static_cg_height = 4.680
max_number_of_points =8
gear_system_type=4
tailwheel_lock=0
point.0= 1, -15.300, 0.000, -2.200, 1378, 0, 0.206,

30.000

, 0.100, 2.000, 0.800, 0.000, 0.000, 0
point.1= 1, 1.172, -2.602, -5.060, 1969, 1, 0.843, 0.000, 0.200, 2.500, 0.800, 0.000, 0.000, 2
point.2= 1, 1.172, 2.602, -5.060, 1969, 2, 0.843, 0.000, 0.200, 2.500, 0.800, 0.000, 0.000, 3
point.3= 2, 0.000, 14.100, -1.440, 10000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0
point.4= 2, -15.090, 0.000, -1.148, 10000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0
point.5= 2, 0.000, -14.100, -1.440, 10000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0
point.6= 2, 5.840, 0.000, -2.428, 10000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0
point.7= 2, 0.000, 0.000, 3.609, 10000, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0

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Reply #10 - Jun 5^th, 2012 at 12:34pm

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If anyone saw the Battle of Britain thing on BBC2 last nite with Ewan McGregor, they flew the Tiger Moth at Duxford. It was noted that this was an aircraft you flew with a lot of rudder inputs. Might have to give it a try!

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Reply #11 - Jun 5^th, 2012 at 1:08pm

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Thanks Doug... Wink

Ok Doug, just took a look at your Contact Points.

They are exactly the same as mine.

I am wondering because I do not have Rudders now, just the Logitech Attack3 control unit and I am wondering if that is the problem.

In my post in this section "Stranger Still" all those aircraft I mentioned do not show Rudder Movement.

Yet the Attack3 unit seems to check out OK on the Test.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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