Simviation Forum - Airborne boats

May 14^th, 2012 at 10:01am

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Good morning all...

Just notice this:

FSX Default Flight from Friday Harbour

The Marina with the two red Float aircraft right next to the Ferry Dock are perfect.

However the Marina on the other side of the Ferry Dock the boats are all elevated...never noticed this before.

Please tell me there is a fix for this or do I have to clear this computer of anything FSX and start over.

REX is not on so that is not the problem I don't think.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #1 - May 14^th, 2012 at 1:33pm

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Doug...........Look something like this?

In my FSX I have the addons UTX-USA and FTX-PNW which include the Friday Harbour area. I believe you have them also.

Check the priority order in the Scenery Library. FTX entries should be above UT entries in the Scenery Library.

The above shows what happened when I reversed the priorities, putting UT above FTX. The other marina and ferry dock were not effected.

If this isn't the cause/problem, we'll have to look further.

The easiest way to move the FTX entries (rather than using move up/down in the library) is.....

In FTX Central goto Tools>Scenery Library Configuration>FTX......Insertion Point.
A new dialog will open. Select the Top UT entry and click 'Set insertion point' and then 'Save and Exit'. After that, as you disable/enable FTX, the entries will be inserted at the proper priority point above UT.

Dave

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Reply #2 - May 14^th, 2012 at 8:19pm

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Hi Dave
Thanks and that is exactly what it looks like... Wink

First:
FTX Central shows up at bottom of my screen and when I click on it I can barely read anything...how do I make that larger?
Second:
FTX Central
Properties
General.... Compatibility.... Security.... Details.... Previous Versions
No Tool in any of them...
Third:
FSX Library
1-FTXAA_ORBXLIBX
2-FTX_NA_PFJ05_SCENERY
3-FTX_NA_PFJ06_CVX
4-FTX_NA_PFJ07_MESH
5-FTX_NA_PFJ08_CUSTOM
6-FTX_NA_PNW05_SCENERY
7-FTX_NA_PNW06_CVX
8-FTX_NA_PNW07_MESH
9-FTX_NA_PNW08_CUSTOM
10-UT FSX WATERCLASS
11-UT FSX OBJECT REPOSITIONING
12-UT CANADA GROUND POLYGONS
13-UT CANADA STREAMS
14-UT CANADA WATER
15-UT CANADA RAILROADS
16-UT CANADA ROADS
17-UT LANDCLASS-CUSTOM
18-UT LANDCLASS-URBAN
19-UT LANDCLASS-VEGETATION
20-UT CANADA LIGHTING
21-UT EXVLUSIONS FOR DEFAULT SCENERY
22-BEAVERX-PIER 39
23-EDWARDS_AFB.....ETC ETC

Still got the problem...

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #3 - May 14^th, 2012 at 9:47pm

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Hi Dave...

REX ON and FTX Central at bottom of screen

Just did a short hop from Friday Harbour (Default)
and still have the same problem....

This time the FSX did not log the flight...never seen that happen before.

When closing out I got....

Microsoft NetFlix Error...
Just in time...JIT...Debugging Error.... Again....

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #4 - May 15^th, 2012 at 11:00am

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FTX Central should look like this when you open it. You can use the windows controls in the upper right corner, like any other window, to go to full screen but this won't increase the text size for reading.

Not sure what you mean by 'FTX Central at the bottom of the screen'. Are you referring to a 'shortcut' on the desktop? In any case, FSX must be shut down before running FTX Central.

I see you do not have UTX USA as I thought. Your UTX Canada should not be involved with the 'marina' problem at Friday Harbour. But I still suspect a terrain or mesh conflict is causing the problem. Do you have any other terrain or mesh addons installed that include this area? (These could include terrain or mesh addons or scenery addons that have their own terrain or mesh components.) If so, try temporarily disabling the addons in the Scenery Libray and see if that fixes the problem.

If you could post a screenshot from the same perspective as mine it might help.

I don't think the 'marina' problem has anything to do with the other problems your having.
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When closing out I got....

Microsoft NetFlix Error...
Just in time...JIT...Debugging Error.... Again....

I'm guessing you meant a 'Microsoft .net' error. Many programs, including REX, require the 'Microsoft .net framework'. I can't give any advice on this except to use Windows Update the ensure you have the latest updates for .net.

Don't have a clue about the Logbook problem, I never use it.

Dave

After thought: Open the......\<your FSX main folder>\ORBX\User Documents\Versions\FTX_NA_PNW.txt file. If the version listed is less than ... V1.0 PATCH 005... you can download the patch here-http://fullterrain.com/support.html. Don't know that it will fix this problem, but provides many fixes and enhancements to the original release.

At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation. Igor Sikorsky

I intend to live forever....so far, so good. Steven Wright

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Reply #5 - May 15^th, 2012 at 1:22pm

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Good afternoon Dave and All...

Well Dave just before I comment there is something I would like to say about young folks...

As our children and grandchildren are quite far away our neighbours grandson (12 years old) heard about my problem with not getting FTX Central to come up large on my screen.

I was complaining about FSX....Windows 7 the other night at cards so our neighbour asked his grandson when they were here for Mothers Day.

The lad showed up to-day as he had early lunch.

I have to learn when I move a screen from my main monitor to my second monitor to bring it back prior to closing.... Roll Eyes

Well you all know I would have figured it out in a year or so... Grin

My "JIT ERROR" was also fixed as well by changing something in the Machine Config. from False to True.

I gave the kid a buck, piece of cheese and an apple for his time...did not want to spoil him you know... Lips Sealed

FSX and Windows 7
REX2...Random Theme
FTX Central On
Log Book now also works
Location: Friday Harbour
....Not the Default Flight
....I programmed a Flight

No other add-ons of this area...

Here are the shots Dave and this is the only spot I have found this problem.... Huh

Elevated Boats

OK here

OK here

Elevated Boats...same Marina as in 1st shot.

Again thanks in advance Dave.... Wink

Comments and Advice most welcome...

P.S....Okay...Okay...before the comments fly the kid is getting ninety (90) minutes in a four engine multi-million dollar sim and I will be eating weiners and beans for the next month... Shocked

« Last Edit: May 16^th, 2012 at 5:48am by Flying Trucker »

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #6 - May 19^th, 2012 at 9:06am

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Still no ideas on what could cause this problem folks?...

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #7 - May 19^th, 2012 at 12:42pm

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This is surely a simple scenery glitch, I think.
These floating boats are in fact a single object, one big 3D model that shows several boats as well as the harbor structures. If this object placement is incorrect, then the whole harbor and all the boats will look incorrect, because it's just one plain object.

What are your current scenery display settings Doug ? (in the game options, for the mesh complexity and the mesh resolution)

Got bloom ?
Got mountains ?
Got damage ?

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Reply #8 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:22am

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Good morning Stephane...

Sorry to get back so late to you...yesterday we were out Float Flying...

Terrain & Water

-Level of Detail Radius:       Large
-Mesh Complexity:             100
-Mesh Resoulution:             1M
-Texture Resoulution:          7M
-Water Effects:                   High 2.X

-Land Detail Textures:          On
-Scenery Complexity:          Dense
-Autogen Density:                Normal

-Ground Shadow Sceneries: On

-Special Effects Details:       High

Global Options:

-Global Texture resolution:    Very High

-Advanced Animations:          On

Still using the Profile Settings you sent and all works great except for this one location....

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #9 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:39am

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Hi Doug,

Don't worry about the answer details. This is a forum, not a chat Grin

(also, you know I'm pretty often late to answer too Wink

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1 meter for the mesh resolution is a bit high, you're simply increasing the load times.
Keep it at 5 meters minimum, that will be just fine for the OrbX sceneries.
However, I don't think this will solve the issue.

By the way, speaking of PNW, have you installed the PNW SP5 patch already ?

Got bloom ?
Got mountains ?
Got damage ?

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Reply #10 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:55am

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Hi Stephane...

No...did not know there was a patch.

I just bought this so thought it would be up to date but will do a search and an installation.

Will change my Mesh Resolution to "5".

It is a Long Holiday Weekend here "May 24th Victoria Day" and we are off to the Flying Club as soon as the ladies come home from church.

Lots of flying going on this weekend... Wink

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #11 - May 20^th, 2012 at 12:25pm

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By the way, speaking of PNW, have you installed the PNW SP5 patch already ?

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No...did not know there was a patch.

Doug, maybe you missed my 'After thought' edit earlier:
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After thought: Open the......\<your FSX main folder>\ORBX\User Documents\Versions\FTX_NA_PNW.txt file. If the version listed is less than ... V1.0 PATCH 005... you can download the patch here-http://fullterrain.com/support.html. Don't know that it will fix this problem, but provides many fixes and enhancements to the original release.

(You can also check the version in FTX Central under Tools>Reports>FTX Products Installed.) I checked 'fixes and additions' for the several updates published. Didn't see Friday Harbour marina listed specifically but it's still worth the version upgrade. The 005 patch is inclusive, so no previous patches needed. You should also check that you have the latest Orbx Libraries version, available on the same support page.

Also, if you haven't grabbed them already, there are 2 great free airport downloads for PNW: 2S1-Vashon Island and KHQM-Bowerman, available on their Freeware page.

Dave

At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation. Igor Sikorsky

I intend to live forever....so far, so good. Steven Wright

You know....you can just rip up a to-do list.

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Reply #12 - May 20^th, 2012 at 12:51pm