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Feb 16th, 2012 at 8:53am

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Hi all.
I've been all over for this.
Anyone of you have a decent virtuel cockpit for Olssons and chililo's F16 in FSX?
I appreciate for any help.
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 8:59am

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If its for the the cockpit itself with the canopy were you can't see out of, there's a fix for that
 

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Reply #2 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 9:11am

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Not only that, i need gauges too.
Have dl' some pw and free, but they dont "fit" my "soul" as a former flyer. If you know what i mean.
Tks for your repply, BlackAce
 
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Reply #3 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 9:49am

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First of all, Kirk's F-16 is a FS9 plane... might even be FS2002. It's old and far away from today's standards. Additionnaly, because it's not a FSX plane, you cannot replace its virtual cockpit by another one. You can change the 2D gauges in the best case, that's all.

Then, you wrote that you got some payware F-16 for FSX ? Which ones ? Because the ones I know are quite complete and extremely detailled. Even though their avionics are not comparable to the VRS Super Hornet, it's still quite interesting nevertheless, that there are absolutely no freewares that come even close to them. Actually, Kirks F-16 is one of the only F-16 ever made for FS9 with a virtual cockpits, so for freewares there are no alternatives.
 
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Reply #4 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:05am

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I know that Daube, but with some mods it still flyes very well.
I love to puzzle around with this, and made some other f9 ac working good in fsx, but this one is hanging.

Maybe you're right. The problem with free uploaded f16 for fsx (ex USViperX) are, that the uploader still use old gauges not compatible in fsx.

I've tried AEROsoft' f16, but as i said above i'm looking for a more "decent" vc. Its good yes, but maybe a good one can be better. I'm sure YOU understand my thinking.
 
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Reply #5 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:46am

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Bass wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:05am:
I've tried AEROsoft' f16, but as i said above i'm looking for a more "decent" vc. Its good yes, but maybe a good one can be better. I'm sure YOU understand my thinking.

The Asrosoft F-16 is the best on the market fot F-16's. if you don't Like it make your own to fit in to your flying habit
 

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Reply #6 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 9:13am

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Bass wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:05am:
I've tried AEROsoft' f16, but as i said above i'm looking for a more "decent" vc. Its good yes, but maybe a good one can be better. I'm sure YOU understand my thinking.

A more "decent VC" than in the Aerosoft F-16 ?  Shocked
Are you kidding ?  Huh
Are you sure this is really the Aerosoft F-16 that you have tried ? Because it's one of the best-looking VCs out there, and an old freeware from FS2002 will never provide you anything comparable. No disrespect to Kirk's excellent work, but his model is several years old, it was even one of the very first freeware military planes for FS9, it's not going to look anything like today's FSX serious paywares...

For information, THIS is the Aerosoft F-16 cockpit. I fail to see how Kirk's F-16 could get even close...


 
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Reply #7 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 9:50am

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...just a sideways heads-up regarding the F16 2D panel...

http://www.simviation.com/fs2002panels12.htm
F16 Panel. fullf16pnl.zip

A very useful gauge that I fit into most of my Aircraft...>>
f162k_config.gau

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Reply #8 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:45pm

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Just downloaded usviperx.zip

The VC gauges work. I am not sure what file you are referring to .....


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Reply #9 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 12:35pm

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Why are i'm not allowed to answer in my own thread?

What is going on?
 
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Reply #10 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 12:50pm

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Firstly, no one has a cule what you're talking about. And you're not telling us what you want, you said a F-16, we gave you 4
 

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Reply #11 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 1:02pm

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Bass wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 12:35pm:
Why are i'm not allowed to answer in my own thread?

What is going on?

I suspect it's the forum anti-spam feature. It won't allow you to post a reply too quickly. Wait a minute or so & it's fine.

I find this very frustrating myself.
 

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Reply #12 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 4:14pm

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This is all off topic & not adding to the thread. I will delete this today later hopefully after you guys have read it.

We have a 30 second repost to prevent spammers. Any of you guys run a site that has 50 spammers registering every day  & trying to post multiple messages? Wink
 

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Reply #13 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 8:36am

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Thank you all.

Then i'm considered a spammer if i got a quick answer!  Wink

But ok.

First. Pete you are right on the usviperx. I got a conflict on "viper" in the .cfg files.
Second. I tried the aerosoft on a freinds mid pc. Not that i were "flying high" and sastisfied with it, but now i want to try it installed on my own high end.

Payware or freeware. Well, there is freeware out there that matches pw. Take a look at this
http://flightsim.bookmark.se/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&id...
I know, its not f16, but anyway.

And pete.
Hope you'll remember, before deleting, that we, over here, are sleeping when you are "up to date".  Smiley
 
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Reply #14 - Feb 23rd, 2012 at 10:52am

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Pete.
Getting back to the usviperx.zip

Not working right here.
I get a lot of old 98 gauges, not working in fsx.
(All my other f16 is deleted from the sim, promise.)

Why?
 
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Reply #15 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 10:06am

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Just tried this one too.
28Black_F-16_Viper-1.zip
Some old 98 gauges hidden in the xml file!
Not good.
 
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Reply #16 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 3:07pm

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Post a screenshot of the panel folder.

There is not one non FSX compatible gauge included that I can see. The panel.conf file does contain some old entries but you just click OK and they will be ignored. Once that's done you don't get asked again.


The screenshot is what you get ....
 

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Reply #17 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:39am

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I'm now puzzling around dx10 and 11 in fsx.

There is a huge different between those two when opening vc, and a very black screenshot picture using dx11. (I use Gadwin)

Dx11 gives a decent vc but no "hud lookout".
Note. The "old gauges" turns up every time.

I'll be back with some pics, if i can get it to work in dx11.
 
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Reply #18 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 2:38pm

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There isn't a Dx11 option in FSX. There is a Dx10 option but only FSX native planes will work with that so the F16 won't.
 

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Reply #19 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 4:59pm

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andy190 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 2:38pm:
There isn't a Dx11 option in FSX. There is a Dx10 option but only FSX native planes will work with that so the F16 won't.

Indeed !
When you enable the "DirectX10 Preview" option, then FSX starts using DirectX10. Else it uses DirectX9.

Andy, for information some extremely rare FS9 planes will display correctly in DirectX10 mode. For example, the last two planes made by Manuelle Villa (the CR42 an the C-202).
 
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Reply #20 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 5:09pm

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Thanks for informing me Daube, I've never used Dx10 because FSX runs well on my system without it on & I've got quite a few FS9 aircraft.
 

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Reply #21 - Mar 1st, 2012 at 9:43am

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Heres some pics in dx10

vc
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2d
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outside
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and me
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Okok, i'll find out.
 
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Reply #22 - Mar 2nd, 2012 at 7:10am

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andy190 and Daube.
Sorry, my mistake about directx. Of course it is 9 and 10  Embarrassed

Will try another screenshot program in dx9.
 
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Reply #23 - Mar 2nd, 2012 at 9:58am

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Got one vc shot in dx9!
I'm sure it was blackace who mentioned, there is a fix to it!

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Do you know where that fix is?
 
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Reply #24 - Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:29am

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Here is a vc pic on your 28Black_F-16_Viper-1

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Reply #25 - Mar 4th, 2012 at 9:55am

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The VC gauges are fine... Now you need the canopy fix
 

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Reply #27 - Mar 4th, 2012 at 10:26am

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Yes, you're right.
Now i need that fix.  Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #28 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 9:19am

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This might be interesting.
I've got the dxtbmp program, but no major improvements.

BUT, after deleting the glass_t.bmp in ViperDen (28Black_F-16_Viper-1.zip), i get this vc in my very old f16-viper (shown above)!!

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That i call progress. How on earth can that happen?
(The viperden is still green "outside")
 
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Reply #29 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 9:39am

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Bass wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 9:19am:
This might be interesting.
I've got the dxtbmp program, but no major improvements.

BUT, after deleting the glass_t.bmp in ViperDen (28Black_F-16_Viper-1.zip), i get this vc in my very old f16-viper (shown above)!!

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That i call progress. How on earth can that happen?
(The viperden is still green "outside")

I'm downloading the file to check it out. If I remember correctly the texture to modify is named inglass.bmp.
 

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Reply #30 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 10:39am

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Seems my memory is not as bad as I thought.

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You can download my modified inglass.bmp here --> http://www.simviation.com/lair/inglass.zip

It should work on other versions of Kirk's Viper.
 

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Reply #31 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 8:32am

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Hagar!
Now i'm getting somewhere. (been working with the inglass too).
I will now try to put your vc fix into my old f16, or put the old 2d panel into the black f16 and change tex. Or i will add f16 radar gauge into black 2 and 3d and raise the 2d outlook. (its too low)!
Thanks again. Come by and have a bottle of wine on me  Wink
 
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Reply #32 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 11:23am

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Progress.
By mixing the wiperx and my old f16, i get this. See below.
Still need some gauges tho, they wont load. Need to config hud in 3d as you can see.

BUT every time i load the ac i miss
"bf.tupolev.config"! Its an old 98 gauge. After searching all files on c, i dont have it?! Need to close it twice.

2d
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3d
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outside
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It's fine.  That what everyone does.  Nothing is wrong with it.
 

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Reply #34 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 9:52am

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BlackAce wrote on Mar 13th, 2012 at 1:46pm:
It's fine.  That what everyone does.  Nothing is wrong with it.


Sorry BlackAce, i dont really know what you mean!
What does everyone do?

Is it the bf.tupolev file error? (I dont want my fsx start with an error). If i put my old f9 f16 into fsx, i dont get errors. But when using viperx or viperblack, mixed or not, the error shows up! I cant find anything related to that file anywhere on my pc or in those 2 ac! (Dont think my slave would interfere)

Is it the vc hud? As you can see, its not ok. Too big and too much to the left!

So, something is wrong with it.
 
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Reply #35 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 11:29am

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Bass wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 9:52am:
Is it the bf.tupolev file error? (I dont want my fsx start with an error). If i put my old f9 f16 into fsx, i dont get errors. But when using viperx or viperblack, mixed or not, the error shows up! I cant find anything related to that file anywhere on my pc or in those 2 ac! (Dont think my slave would interfere)

Is it the vc hud? As you can see, its not ok. Too big and too much to the left!

So, something is wrong with it.

I've tried both aircraft & don't recall getting an error. I don't see any connection with the F-16 & a  Tupolev gauge.
 

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FSX doesn't support FS98 Gauges or latter.  So its Not a problem really.
 

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Reply #37 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 5:21am

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BlackAce wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 5:15pm:
FSX doesn't support FS98 Gauges or latter.  So its Not a problem really.

I disagree. It is a problem if you constantly get error messages every time you select the aircraft or even when you change views. The idea is to locate the gauge or whatever is causing the error & remove it.

I can find nothing in the files mentioned that would cause such an error.

PS. I've just realised that the error is on FSX start up. That doesn't sound like a gauge.
 

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Reply #38 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 9:07am

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Yes, Hager. Prob my fault again, but i got the bf.tupolev.config along with lear_45.aoa, stikhand and thrthand as an old 98 gauge not working in fsx. The other 3 i manege to close down, but that bugger just shows at fsx start!

I've been searching c drive for any text inside every file containing: bf.tupolev, tupolev, tupolev.config and bf.tupolev.config, nothing. I've tried to delete fsx.cfg and make a new by restarting. No help.

I am running fsx gold ex, but that should not be the case.
 
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