Alex,

FSPlanet is known for trying this crap. I think every freeware developer has had to argue with FSPlanet over their files at one point or another. Unfortunately, the most you can do is send them an email requesting removal, but they may ignore it (and historically do).

Since I wrote the readme, I can back you up if you need me to. I would suggest citing this section of the readme:
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Geez, this leave of absence thing is not working out over a dull waste of a school week. 


Best of luck with the issue,

-Sean

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So this is the deal ? they can do what ever they want with my job?

So I tried to download the model and I only have to paid for a download faster ,I'm so angry that I can't even type

Yeah, this is pretty bad. If your readme said it is YOUR property and cannot be used again without permission or for monetary gains, it is pretty much like copyrighting the material. This guy is ridiculous and is an embarrasment to the FS world. I'm serious. If he put his name in the file instead of yours, it is stealing the material. Also, if he does not include your origional readme, I would consider emailing the administrators of FSplanet.com or whatever crap it's called and demand it is deleted immediatly. Oh wait! You already did that and they just gave you crap!  This shows how ignorant and incredibly stupid, nasty, dumb and braindead these guys are. SimV is waaaaaayyy better than that place will ever be. Remember that.

Can't blame the guy for trying. He did it with a couple of panels that I modified too. Never noticed it until a few months after when I got an e-mail from a user. Send FSPlanet an e-mail requesting to remove the files, they never responded. Never bothered to look at the site again. Crappy website anyhow. 35.000 visitors daily? Right...

What he did in your case is worse. You clearly stated that it is a Simviation exclusive aircraft so he has to respect that. Didn't he do it with one of your other creations too? I remember something like that.

Good luck with your fight against this 'pirate'. I wished I could do more.

Carlo

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We've been down this road before. I'm afraid there's not a lot you can do about it. I don't know where the site in question is hosted but US law means very little in other countries.

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You can place as many distribution limits as you like. That doesn't mean everyone on the WWW takes notice of them. It's too late now but perhaps a statement like this in the Readme would do the trick; "This file is not to be uploaded or posted at xxxx.com"

I note that full credit is given to Alex so nobody is actually claiming credit for his work.

thank you guys for your support

all this tells me that Its better to make paywares .I'm more protected by payware mode????

So Its better to make paywares than freewares  ..

beside all the hard working deal with this .. Its the worse
so II should give it to "One of those site that promote Paywares" Even if it isn't my wishes ,to be honest people ,I was very afraid to release my work ,for things like this ,or someone jumping up again telling that I stole his files, just to win his 5 minutes of fame ..


you all have said it ,this is a payware quality , so to "have Protection" I should give it to another person to earn part of my work?

I didn't even Upload it to my site to see the countdown which are fast btw and I linked to simv ..and this A.H. did it in less than 24 hours

I tried to download ,I couldn't ONLY FOR EXCLUSIVELY THOSE WHO PAID SPECIAL DOWNLOAD, SI IN A CERTAIN WAY IT HAS BECOME A PAYWARE IN SPAIN

Magazines are great ,for me they all can have it ,as long they keep the designer and websites names
who is this guy ,he things he owns the law ,and other people work?

Beyond the law is something of principles  ,I MADE THAT MOTHER f** AIRPLANE AND I DON'T WANT THAT PIECE OF S SITE TO DISTRIBUTE IT ,it craps my work ,its a pirate site   

I really believe I'm going to get sick ,My apologies to this Sake site for my speech ,if it too inconvenient please feel free to delete this post or the entire thread

This has been going on for years. My advice would be to ignore it.

While I agree that it probably would be a nightmare to pursue anything, I wish there was something we could do that would result in the site pulling the file. It just didn't seem right to allow FSPlanet to ignore law.

I'm taking some responsibility for this since I wrote the readme and the legal part, but I thought that it would be clear enough. It does say that no uploads are allowed without Alex's permission.

Pressing legal charges against the website is probably out of the question. We'd just be happy if they remove it. That's all at this point I believe.
Of course, I'm speaking on assumptions, but I believe that Alex shares these sentiments.

I sent them a polite email about the issue, requesting that they remove the file and outlining why.
We'll see if they respond favorably. There's another course of action that we can take if this doesn't work, but I'm not sure how effective it would be. (PM'd Alrot about it)

We need to remember that while we can let our feelings escalate a little bit here, the best way to approach these people on the issue is with an abundance of kindness. Being rude and threatening to a person or organization that you have a problem with solves nothing. Right now, we're just looking for a quick, simple solution to this problem that does not involve legal proceedings. (I for one am not getting involved in a legal scuffle beyond this point.) 

Alex - just accept this has happened. This guy has always done this and will always do it. Nearly every designer has 'no fsplanet' in theri readme because he has upset so many people (& now he is pretending he is someone else 'Cristian Vider' - His name is Ferdy something). He has even given 'death threats' 



You knew he would do this!! He does it every time. 

Ignore him and next time be specific about not allowing certain illegal sites to host your files.

As Meshman said -- the ONLY thing  you can do is put in a professional, legally articulate report of piracy to his hosting company (which is easy to find out in  a 'whois' search.) If it's hosted in the US or northern europe  they will probably react. Southern europe and elsewhere they probably won't.

Alex -- remember -- It's supposed to be fun. Keep it that way and don't allow these guys to get you down.

They're hosted by Network Solutions LLC. As a result, the host should be fairly responsible for enforcing US laws on the websites which they host.

Though freeware, you still own the distribution rights. They do not have the rights to copy or distribute your work. They don't have the rights to upload it.

If I were you, contact their web host and let them know that this website is taking your software and redistributing it.


It may seem like a far measure, but the host is responsible for the content they're allowing to be used. If FSPlanet won't listen, the host probably will. If you get yourself and your fellow designers to complain, I'm sure something will be done.

"FSPLANET.COM - THE WORLD'S BIGGEST FLIGHT SIMULATOR FILES SPECIALIST DOWNLOAD SITE!!!" 

It's a lousy situation for sure.

one thought but it would be a lot more work for you.

Release the product as freeware demo - limited run time.

Ask for registration - free - to activate product. Ask where it was downloaded from or, if possible put some sort of hidden code to determine the download site.

Don't activate anything from FSPlanet.

Might work.

Vic

Hi From my own searching:

The host server is in Houston.

This information is freely available via the internet just by searching for www.fsplanet.com

host company is also available on the internet

Please don't let this get you down.

regards

Steve

Hagar wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 7:17pm:




I totaly agree with Hagar, i would let this one go alex, but make sure to put "DO NOT DISTRIBUTE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION" on the readme file. Is a great plane by the way, i dont think FSplanet diserves such a great freeware plane.

it looks like they've taken your file down alex.

i looked @ their website, and your file was the first one listed. I clicked on it and got a "file not found" message.


now a question for you all;

i clicked on a few files there and they started downloading just fine at a speed of 30Kbps; I didn't have to pay anything.

This is no different than simV. If you don't have a membership, you can download around 30Kbps, and there are limits on how many files you can download simultaneously.

So what exactly is the difference between simviation and fsplanet?

alrot wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 6:39am:

I note that all the other files on that page except your MD 83 can now be downloaded from the free links. It might take a while to download a big file as the best I can get is 3.0 kb/sec.

alrot wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 8:33am:

Your MD 83 is the only file on the Latest Files page that you can't download free. I suspect he's done this deliberately to upset you.

He's made it perfectly clear that he's not going to remove it. As I said before, it's best if you ignore him & get on with your life. It's really not worth worrying about.

just google these

"FSplanet  Piracy"

there is a way to have a link of a google search but I forgot how to

Its almost like every one are saying this is a piracy site 

I'm the last one of a loooooooong list of victims of this site 

Since his site is hosted by an American company they have to abide by US Laws.

Besides you might not even need legal action, all you have to do is launch a complaint against the hosting company for hosting pirated software.

Knick wrote on Nov 24^th, 2010 at 3:09pm:


Thank you for your advise
I already try many things , I even post in my website a big yellow warning about this site
all this its a waste of time,I have been very Upset ,I had horrible migrains , I have post everywhere ,I have said this ,and these guys are laughing and laughing  ,99.9 % of the servers are in USA (I mean these types of thing games entertainment etc)

  I google Piracy+fsplanet and must be like hundreds of complaints ,wake up my friend this guy is in Spain ,I'm not going to start a campaign against this site ,I already work a lot making the model, who knows maybe tomorrow someone will grab this MD 83 and change the read me file and said he did it ,and what can we do about it ? I saw another thread about Ben252 which is Brian Franklin -  of Simshed and he humble said I guess when its release as freeware anyone can do what ever they want He made his c-130 and some one else "fixed" and upload it again and now was made by other ..you understand what I mean?

there are no rights to freeware designers and I know how this will end ,and BTW Its ending

,Yes ,the pirate site its selling and its earning money ,money I won't ever have cause of my work but others will have it cause of my work ,and this isn't me only

Many people said Ignore ,yes I will,I will ignore from nw on on internet  ,in Fact I will ask Mod to please lock this thread ,but I can't and I never Ignore personally  because I was the one who spend 4 month sitting in a chair working very hard , making the most beautiful details to make a great airplane .I release it and in 12 hours was making money to Spanish persons and maybe others who knows  ..

  I'm updating the Citation X ,in fact I'm changing the whole fuselage ,and many things will be replace and many will be add it , I do this because I like it , maybe the pirate will be waiting to earn more money once I release it .

  Money I need it ,money that would help me at least to buy a decent video card , this is the world were the bad and smart  guys are the winners..

I'm very disappointed in all these thing of freewares ,were

it seems that freeware mean trash

and about youtube videos ,none of the posted videos said anything about where did they get it and who made it ,all they said is Example:
Video
software used :Fraps
Simulator:FSX
Filmmaker: the dushbag names
computer: Dell )(%&&/(//
Aircraft: freeware

and people asking Where did you get this airplane ? I say it in one and then was delete it

Please admin lock this thread or delete it 

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http://www.simnetwork.com/SIMNETWORK/downloads.php?cat_id=39&rowstart=0

listen ,I don't really bother anymore ,at least they keep my name on it  , as I said ,there are worse things in the freeware world , who knows ? I found this in google by typing md 83 alejandro bla bla bla and this shows up maybe the model is also without designer in other sites who knows ?
Is the freeware word where freeware designers are just a bunch of idiots that works to make something and any one can take credit for this assuming they did 

Seems to me, alrot, that anytime someone with talent and genius and determination (that would be you) puts something out into the world, there will always be those who seek to benefit without having done the work. It's also these low-lifes who cause the industrious to hang it up. Look at Mike Stone as the perfect example.

Is there any way to put some sort of "disabler" into the file to make it not work if it wasn't downloaded from SimV? I ain't no computer genius. Just wondering.

Also wondering why SeanTK and Crash are ex-members...