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Sep 5^th, 2010 at 11:46am

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the md 83s comes with a stairs in this hole

but I can't find photos except for this one

Airliners.net or this one like a mile away

if anyone please have seen a video (Specially a video with deploying it) or a good photo please link it to me

and just in case ,
I'm not interest in FSX/FS9 payware/freeware photos of another model

thanks

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Reply #1 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 1:15pm

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http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/5/3/6/1275635.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2741643545_af7d16cbcd.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Adriatic/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82/0678204/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iberia/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-87/0277466/L/

As for a video, the same kind is used on the 737-200's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FJQzhhmaBg

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Reply #2 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 1:29pm

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skoker wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 1:15pm:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/5/3/6/1275635.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2741643545_af7d16cbcd.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Adriatic/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82/0678204/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iberia/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-87/0277466/L/

As for a video, the same kind is used on the 737-200's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FJQzhhmaBg

Cheesy

wow thanks the youtube video would be more than enough (I didn't know 737 also has these stairs)
Thanks

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Reply #3 - Sep 7^th, 2010 at 8:12pm

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skoker wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 1:15pm:

As for a video, the same kind is used on the 737-200's

Actually it is an option on even the new 737s. Sun Country has to use them when they come here for charter flights, since we don't have a jetway. I was not aware the MDs had them though, good information.

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Reply #4 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:31am

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DaveSims wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 8:12pm:

skoker wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 1:15pm:

As for a video, the same kind is used on the 737-200's

Actually it is an option on even the new 737s. Sun Country has to use them when they come here for charter flights, since we don't have a jetway. I was not aware the MDs had them though, good information.

Its different David from the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FJQzhhmaBg
to the md80
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iberia/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-87/0277466/L/

the stair is a single piece because the MD is smaller than the 737s,I had it just for the photo

But I can't make the length goes longer ,I can't understand why it uses just 0 to 100 no more It deploys too darn fast
I change it in modeldef from 100 to 200 length IT doesn't work,I even want to make the wheels at the bottom to spin couple turns in the animation ,but its worthless ,too fast to see it Undecided

Undecided

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Code:

<Animation name="door_3" guid="5D79AF88-3ADF-475a-BB65-19A61B2626BF" length="200" type="Sim" typeparam2="door_3" typeparam="AutoPlay" />

Code:

  <PartInfo>
    <Name>door_3</Name>
    <AnimLength>200</AnimLength>
    <Animation>
      <Parameter>
        <Sim>
          <Variable>EXIT OPEN:3</Variable>
          <Units>percent</Units>
        </Sim>
      </Parameter>
    </Animation>
  </PartInfo>

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Reply #5 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 1:22pm

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what exactly is this hole for? I saw a video with this thing open ,and I'm trying to recreate as much as possible

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Reply #6 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 1:35pm

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Still looking, but I did find this so far: http://www.inselaircargo.com/images/md-83_page_1.gif

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Reply #7 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 1:42pm

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Just a guess, but I think that is the pressurization outflow valve. It helps control the pressure of the aircraft by letting excess pressure out...or something like that.

When the aircraft is on the ground it is open all the way:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Bulgarian-Air-Charter/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82/177...
Edited:

During takeoff it's open slightly:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta-Air-Lines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-88/1146702/L...

And it's closed when the aircraft is in midair:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-8.../05291...

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Reply #8 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:10pm

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OK , thank you guys the hole is open (lol) ,I got to be very sure before make its properly animation

Edited:

also edited
this is a photo too and is about to land and its half open
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/Cffd6223987lipboard01.jpg

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Reply #9 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:21pm

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Cabin Pressure control valve.

No pics here, but it describes it exactly.
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/32721/

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Reply #10 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:32pm

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ShaneG wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:21pm:

Cabin Pressure control valve.

No pics here, but it describes it exactly.
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/32721/

Ok, there isn't a part for that ,I could make it ,but i am not really sure how it works
So,what If I set this part with the suspension of the wheels? ,see ,when the plane is on the ground the weigh will push it Open and when it lift it will close..
you know how this is Cheesy

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The more Fun things move ,the more people like it ,what do say Shane & ApplePie?

Besides ,there is no pressure in the cabin ,Just 00000111000111000100010001010001110000111100100001
00000111000111000100010001010001110000111100100001000001110001110001000100010100
01110000111100100001
Grin

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Reply #11 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:40pm

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alrot wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:32pm:

ShaneG wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:21pm:

Cabin Pressure control valve.

No pics here, but it describes it exactly.
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/32721/

Ok, there isn't a part for that ,I could make it ,but i am not really sure how it works
So,what If I set this part with the suspension of the wheels? ,see ,when the plane is on the ground the weigh will push it Open and when it lift it will close..
you know how this is Cheesy

Cheesy

The more Fun things move ,the more people like it ,what do say Shane & ApplePie?

Besides ,there is no pressure in the cabin ,Just 00000111000111000100010001010001110000111100100001
00000111000111000100010001010001110000111100100001000001110001110001000100010100
01110000111100100001
Grin

Grin

Maybe you could set it to open with the landing gear so that it is open on approach as well?

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Reply #12 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:52pm

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That's a great suggestion Christian. Smiley

Those are the only times it's open, so it would look accurate. Wink

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Reply #13 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 3:23pm

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Maybe you could set it to open with the landing gear so that it is open on approach as well?

ShaneG wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 2:52pm:

That's a great suggestion Christian. Smiley

Those are the only times it's open, so it would look accurate. Wink

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With the landing gear its been establish Wink

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thanks you guys

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Reply #14 - Sep 8^th, 2010 at 3:25pm

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Don't know the first thing about modelling a plane but I'm following it with great interest. Keep it up Alex. Looks wonderful.

Carlo Wink

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Reply #15 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 10:33am

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I hope I'm not being too annoying ,But see,I have never been in real life near airplanes, all I know is for Simviation.com FS98,FS2000,FS2002,fs2004,FSX and once I meet this son of %$$**@ who was a traffic controller and he just use me as his personal Cab(taxi) Once I told him I could not get him more "rides" he told me I couldn't be in the airport's tower anymore Cry

Cry

well this is another question first watch these

Tails of Md 80

the trimtab elevator trimtab rudder and trimtab aileron
In the elevator :is this part moves? like this while were moving the steer wheel in the throttle console ?

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/trimtabrudderDibujo.jpg

I found the answer to this in a video YES it moves by the elevator steering wheel

Does anybody know where are the Taxi lights,I know there are two bulls in the landing gear ,but most of the planes I see have Two pairs of bulb landing and taxi

It doesn't matter either I can add the light latter

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Blue-Line/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-83/1772955/L/&sid=...

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This one is the one I can't find I need at least suggestion please!!!

how are these are being hold I know in the 707 and 727 and defailt FSX 737there where in the edges and even the citations

but from what I see HERE this parts are completely separated so what it holding them?

,I can't see what does it make it moves Undecided

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I can see little sticks in here,from the flaps to the wings (like the lead edge) But I'm not sure

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Alitalia/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82/1771092/L/

the exterior is ready and I'm about to paint it, except for this three things, I want it to make it accurate as much is I can ,there won't be more question of the exterior
then Ill start the VC Roll Eyes

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« Last Edit: Sep 10^th, 2010 at 7:36pm by alrot »

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Reply #16 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 5:07pm

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Wow Alex,, It is looking great...wish I could help you with some info on the type but I have never flown one. The model is great...I see you have different parts in colours..how do you join the parts without it all becoming one color or one object with the same properties?

I have been working on cleaning up my model but it ended up with more polys then when i started ;( so not feeling so confident at moment..

Thanks again for your help so far..
ethan

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Reply #17 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 7:00pm

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Wow Alex,, It is looking great...wish I could help you with some info on the type but I have never flown one. The model is great...I see you have different parts in colours..how do you join the parts without it all becoming one color or one object with the same properties?

I have been working on cleaning up my model but it ended up with more polys then when i started ;( so not feeling so confident at moment..

Thanks again for your help so far..
ethan

How many polys you at now?

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Reply #18 - Sep 11^th, 2010 at 5:45pm

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alrot wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 10:33am:

I hope I'm not being too annoying ,But see,I have never been in real life near airplanes, all I know is for Simviation.com FS98,FS2000,FS2002,fs2004,FSX and once I meet this son of %$$**@ who was a traffic controller and he just use me as his personal Cab(taxi) Once I told him I could not get him more "rides" he told me I couldn't be in the airport's tower anymore Cry

Cry

well this is another question first watch these

Tails of Md 80

the trimtab elevator trimtab rudder and trimtab aileron
In the elevator :is this part moves? like this while were moving the steer wheel in the throttle console ?

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/trimtabrudderDibujo.jpg

I found the answer to this in a video YES it moves by the elevator steering wheel

Does anybody know where are the Taxi lights,I know there are two bulls in the landing gear ,but most of the planes I see have Two pairs of bulb landing and taxi

It doesn't matter either I can add the light latter

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Blue-Line/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-83/1772955/L/&sid=...

_______________________________________________
This one is the one I can't find I need at least suggestion please!!!

how are these are being hold I know in the 707 and 727 and defailt FSX 737there where in the edges and even the citations
butfromwhatIseethispartsarecompletelyseparatedsowhatitholdingthem,Ican'tseewhatdoesitmakeitmoves:-/[img]Icanseelittlesticksinhere,fromtheflapstothewings(liketheleadedge)ButI'mnotsurehttp://www.airliners.net/photo/Alitalia/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82/1771092/...'mabouttopaintit,exceptforthisthreethings,IwantittomakeitaccurateasmuchisIcan,therewon'tbemorequestionoftheexteriorthenIllstarttheVC:

LandinglightspopoutfromunderthewingontheMD-88:http://www.youtube.com/watchv=fAEc99Po014http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com...

* only on the inner two pods

I had a picture of the Rod some where but now I can't find it. If I do I'll post it.

Anything else just Ask. I've got friends in high places.

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Reply #19 - Sep 11^th, 2010 at 6:27pm

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skoker wrote on Sep 11^th, 2010 at 5:45pm:

Landing lights pop out from under the wing on the MD-88:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAEc99Po014
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/127...

Flaps are lowered by a 1 inch diameter screw rod.
*onlyontheinnertwopodsIhadapictureoftheRodsomewherebutnowIcan'tfindit.IfIdoI'llpostit.

AnythingelsejustAsk.I'vegotfriendsinhighplaces.

HeyJordanYouhelpmewiththelight,Iputoncethelightslikethis,Can'trememberIthinkwasthe707butIcouldn'twaitandIaskthisinRealAviationhttp://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.plnum=128...'tstartedtomapthewingsyetAlexedit:IalreadyBuildthewholemechanism;)[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/dksfjh444.jpg

« Last Edit: Sep 11^th, 2010 at 11:56pm by alrot »

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Reply #20 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 9:30am

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Alex

This article for scale modeller explains difference between the various DC 9/MD marks

It might contain some details or help explain some issues you come across for the exterior model.

http://www.airlinercafe.com/page.php?id=396

ATB

Garry

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Reply #21 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 10:01am

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thanks Garry ,Hagar also did found that ,what interesting more is the site now ,I been looking for a site like this with exquisite details of few airplanes

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Reply #22 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 11:10am

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Wing flex, 3 cargo doors, Funny stairs deploy, door, cockpit windows open close, back door and stairs, put a couple dummies to move their heads , trimtab and elevator landing gears, wheel ,tires, thrust reverse ,engines,flaps,lead edges etc etc....
Check Wink

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Reply #23 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 5:56pm

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Well....what can I say....it looks like an MD-83

it's most important to get the nose and windscreen right if it is to look right and it certainly does here Cool

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