JimPhelps wrote on Jul 9^th, 2010 at 3:12am:


Hi JimPhelps, welcome to SimViation, and welcome into the FS world

Here are a few answers to your questions, based on my own experience:




1- I don't reall remember who those "historic" flights worked, but it seems to me that the level of realism might have been higher in those flights than in your free flights. Check your realism options, make sure everything is at maximum. You should not be able to go straight on a runway while the winds are blowing. And even with no winds at all, the simple engine torque effect should make your plane turn on the ground, forcing you to compensate with th rudder to stay in line with the runway.





2- Be very carefull about what you will read here and there about FSX. This version of the simulator requires a much more powerfull computer than FS9, and this produced a lot of frustration in the FS community.

I understand you're wondering if it's worth the effort to migrate to the new sim. Since you are a beginner in the FS world, I would answer "not yet". FS9 is the perfect entry door to the FS world for newbies. It runs smooth, it has a huge library of addons all over the net, freewares or paywares, planes or sceneries etc... You will get what you need and you will NOT be dissapointed.

FS9 was very similar to its previous version (FS2002, or FS8). As a consequence, most of the addons created for FS8 were compatible with FS9, so FS9 had already quite a huge addon library directly from the start.

FSX, on the contrary, was quite different from FS9, and unfortunately most of the FS9 addons were NOT compatible with FSX, be it planes or sceneries. In the end, the variety of addons available for FSX is much smaller than what you can find in FS9.

Reading those lines, it might seem that there's no reason at all to switch to FSX. This is not the case. FSX brings some extra features that allow the creation of addons that are simply impossible to make in FS9, addons of unmatched quality, realism and beauty.

The ground sceneries are incredibly detailled, with sharp ground textures and dense autogen. Take a look for example at the products from OrbX, you'll understand what I mean. Photosceneries are also more impressive, thanks to the improved ground resolution in FSX.

The planes looks much better thanks to some new graphic effects. Also, FSX allows 3D models with much more polygons than FS9, and there has been also some changes in the virtual cockpits, so that very complex cockpits do not have an impact on the frames anymore, and the gauges stay smooth all the time. Finally, the new interface to third party addons offered by FSX allows some fantastic improvements that could not be seen in FS9. For example, take a look at the payware planes made by A2A simulations, with the famous Accusim system. You'll understand what I mean.

There are other examples of course, I don't have everything in mind but I hope this gives you a clear picture already. One important thing to keep in mind is that all those improvements in FSX won't make FS9 out of the game at all. In fact, the previous sim still has its strong points. The major one is of course the performance. FS9 will be smoother in any situation compared to FSX, that's a fact. This will allow you to land an ultra-detailled plane such as the 747 from PMDG (very detailled, very realistic, very heavy on the performances) on a huge airport like JFK or Paris CDG, with a huge amount of AI traffic. The same situation in FSX might not be that confortable, since the impact on the performance might lead to slow FPS.

In the end, the simming experience is different from a sim to the other. A common conclusion is that FSX is the best when it comes to VFR flying or IFR from minor airports, while FS9 is the best for IFR from major airports.



3- Hmmm I'm not sure I understand your question here. Can you write it in another way ? (sorry, English is not my native language )


4 - For this I'm not an expert, so I will let the real joystick experts answer to that

If you need more explanations, don't hesitate to ask

JimPhelps wrote on Jul 9^th, 2010 at 3:12am:


Welcome- and remember, "there are no stupid questions". Not really true, LOL, but that's the attitude we foster here. Ask away.

I have a thought about your first question: do these hostoric flights involve aircraft like the Vickers Vimy, the Douglas DC-3, or Ford Tri-Motor... none of which have steerable tailwheels?    I assume your question is about steering on the ground...?

Thank you for your replies guys. I appreciate it. And thanks also for the info on the yoke. I guess thats the one for me over that newer one and I think I'm gonna pick it up before too long. And thanks for the advice on FSX...definetly stick with 2004 for a while till I know it well.

On the histroical flights, yes, I am controlling the DC 3, those taildraggers on the ground, just trying to get to the runway. Anytime I started, the plane would veer to the left no matter how hard I cranked my joystick to the right. Nothing I did seem to adjust for it. I could manuver fine in create a flight, but anytime Historical flights I tried, I would veer off into houses and crash before I could even make it to the taxiway to get to the runway. I just found out that my create a flights, realism is still way off and thats why I've been doing so good I thought i was a natural. Gotta adjust the difficulty nad try again. I thought it was already set for realism...turns out I was wrong. I don't suppose the flying lessons cover how to compensate on the realism do they?

And since I wasn't very clear, Daube I had wanted to fly that (I think its supposed to be a 707) from the movie Airplane! with Peter Graves, Leslie Neilsen, etc. that would say Trans America in red writing above the windows with that red stripe going down the body. A skin to select for a 707 that looks like that. Or any of the famous movie planes. Not necessarily jetliners.

But on another note..I am having trouble with the Air Force 1 jet I got from this site. Everything runs fine when I'm in the VC or panel view, but as soon as I select Tower viewpoint in trying to get to Spot View, everything goes dark and the FS crashes out. I tried a different DL for it and the same thing happened again. Has anybody else had the same trouble with Air Force 1 the 747 type, not the 4 propellor one who's actual name I can't recall. I had gotten a DC 4 propellor AF1 and I can view that plane in any angle. But when it comes to the jet version---pfffft. Back to the drawing board. Did I do something wrong?

There's a little gadget entry that simulates asymmetric thrust allowing the DC3 to essentially pivot on it's tail.  Hopefully one of the members will come up with it.

JimPhelps wrote on Jul 9^th, 2010 at 3:21pm:

The FS flying lessons are, IMHO, pretty useless... especially when it comes to something like a DC-3 or Tri-Motor, both of which have free-castering, non-steerable tailwheels.

Both of them will veer to the left when power is applied because of torque and "P-factor" caused by the propellers turning clockwise (as seen from the pilot's seat). Props and crankshafts are rotating to the right, so to speak, so the rest of the plane, as verified by Sir Isaac Newton, tries to rotate the other way. The end result is that the plane tends to yaw to the left, and might even roll a little bit to the left when airborne in high-thrust, low-airspeed scenarios. The physics are not quite so simple as that, but believe me, it's the rotating mass of the engines plus the angle of the prop "discs" that causes this problem. It even occurs with low-horsepower, single-engine modern nosewheel airplanes, to some extent. to deal with it, you need rudder. More than one real-world flight instructor has told me " Pretend the throttle is connected to your right foot. When you push it forward, your right foot should also go forward slightly."

Wind can also be a serious factor with these old taildraggers , especially once the tail actually leaves the ground. Rudder input is needed to keep the plane from pointing into the wind (which can be bad unless the wind is blowing straight down the runway).

The DC-3 has a tailwheel which can (and should) be locked for takeoff and landing, but when taxiing that plane with the wheel unlocked, you must do as real-life DC-3 and Tri-Motor pilots do: steer with differential brakes and differential thrust.

Ok, I admit I kinda just jumped in and have not gone thru all the lessons in order. Oh I've done some. I finished the first level..did some of the things in the second one (how to bank and turn? I know how to do that from the jet fighter games on 360) Tried a couple of the later missions (had to try landing the jumbo jet mission. I thought it would been a hand holder with a voice over walking you thru the necessary steps with airspeed, descent rate, flap timing since its different in a 747 than a Cessina. And unless I played with mute on by accident, I didn't have a trainer.) I have basically been playing around, learning stuff as I have gone along. Like playing with the autopilot, learning how to set headings, find the airport. I still haven't learned how to do an insturment landing or ILS or landing with the VOR (i think) towers using the radio direction signals? Ok, that kinda stuff right now is so far above me it isn't funny. I know I need to do the assigned reading (just been skimming it looking for new tips etc) All my flying so far is basically seat of your pants. I was brainwashed at an early age that just jumping in and going was the only way to learn this from countless rewatchings of Gilligan's Island and WrongWay Feldman (did 2 episodes I think).

And in a real headthumper moment for me, I didn't really think that all this time I have been flying without using the tail rudder to help. My joystick never assigned it a key and since on games like Ace Combat 6 the jet does it for you when you turn I just took it for granted that rudder moved when the ends of the wings moved. Does this mean I really oughta get a set of pedals too? Or is just reassigning a couple keys on the keyboard a better option?

JimPhelps wrote on Jul 10^th, 2010 at 3:49am:


This inexpensive Joystick is ideal for flight simulation...>>>

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/evoforce.htm

It has a "Twist" function to control the Rudder, (and steering Nose Wheel on tricycle Aircraft).

....allows you to perform coordinated turns..Ailerons + Rudder!!

All you need for for the Flight Sim......!

Pul...G-BPLF...FS 2004...FS Nav... ...!

...now keep practising in that Cessna 172!..... ...!

I learned my basic flying skills, including Radio Navigation, through my excellent "FS2000" and "Pro Pilot '99" Manuals.....wonderful books!

Still got them...still regularly read them, and practice!

Its a real shame that they are not included with the latest (Boxed) versions of the Flight Sims...would save lots of questions... ...!

Paul...G-BPLF..FS 2004...FS Nav...and some Flight Manuals to study in Bed!... ...!


The boxed Pro Pilot '99 version...>>>

http://www.answers.com/topic/pro-pilot-99

Worth getting if only for the excellent paper Manuals!

Unfortunately, after pricing the pedals, I just don't have the dough to pick those up yet. I wanted to get the control yoke first for a more authentic flight experience. Can you control the rudder with finger triggers on the yoke? So much to do and get in order to make this game the best possible, I just don't have the money for all of it yet.  Ill have to go check those books outta the library.  I'm guessing its not a good idea to control the helicopters in this with the Flight yoke however. Are the helicopters the only ones I would need the twist joystick for if I get the control yoke?

Nav wrote on Jul 10^th, 2010 at 12:11pm:


One of the many things I like about FS 2004.
The wealth of default Aeroplanes, etc, supplied with re-sizeable 2D Cockpit Panels, where ALL the instruments are displayed complete, on the main screen, without having to scroll around a 3D, VC screen frantically searching for a particular elusive control, gauge, etc, etc, whilst trying to perform a last minute, successful (non fatal) landing!... ...!

The Sim "VC Cockpit" is nothing like viewing a real cockpit, where ones peripheral view, and eye movements, are utilised to observe the contents of the Cockpit... ...!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS Nav...and lots of 2D Panels!.... ...!

"Click" the image at the bottom of my post 

JimPhelps wrote on Jul 13^th, 2010 at 11:10pm:


Multiplayer works wonderfully with FS 2004.... .....>>>>

http://cockpit.netfrag.org:81/

Menu: Multiplayer: Connect:

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/fs2004multiplayer.jpg

Just press "Join"......easy-peasy!.... ...!

(Just make sure you lock your Frame Rate to 20 FPS, and make sure all your Ports are open).

Pop down to the Multiplayer Forum and join in with the fun!.... ....!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004...FS Nav... ...!

What means PPASEL?

You'd have to find the IP addresses of servers I believe; its been a while since I've flown online.  Its pretty much as you said it: look out the window and see the other guy.  You can use text window chat, but there are options for voice communication as well, usually with an external program.  You can pretty much fly like normal depending on where your flying.

Then there are online ATC servers like vatsim (vatsim.net).  You have live air traffic controllers there who would expect you to at least file something and know at least a little bit about real-life procedures, flying restrictions, rules, etc..  On Vatsim, I believe you can fly alongside FSX'ers and X-Plane users; though again, its been a while since I've flown online. 

As to controlling your view with mouse, you need an external program for that.  A free one you can get is f1view, which you can get here http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=library

JimPhelps wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 7:28pm:

Have no regrets. The handling of the forcefeedback in FS is very bad anyway, it's really a useless feature, to say the least.

Quote:


Those people are using a little tool nammed TrackIR, which I strongly recommend you. It's a camera device that reads the position of your head, and reproduce it in the simulator. So if you turn your head right, the view turns right in the sim.
Have a look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AO0F5sLdVM

JimPhelps wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 7:28pm:


If you have a Joystick fitted with a "top-hat button", you can scroll around the screen in VC Cockpit Mode, using it.
In 2D Cockpit Mode you can use it to change views....>>>>

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/evoforce.htm

"8-way ‘point-of-view’ hat switch "

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004...FS Nav.... ...!