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May 13th, 2009 at 10:29pm
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I was lucky enough to be given a hand held multi-band radio a couple days ago and finally got around to making use of it tonight.  Picks up on the Weather, Police, Air, CB, TV1, and FM.

I tuned into the Air band to see if I could pick anything up.  So far I've only found one frequency range that seems to have anything.  I've heard a couple of flights loud and clear while most are pretty distorted with static.  One was still over Ohio, American 363 from New York to Chicago was the last one I could hear clearly. 

So I'm curious, where might I find a list of frequencies in the area so I know an area to tune into them a little easier.  Its not a digital readout so I have to play with a range till somebody talks.  Right now I'm somewhere between 125MHz and 136MHz.  Closer to 136.  Kind of interesting to listen in, especially if I get the chance during the day when the sky above is really busy.  Right now half the problem is severe storms that are approaching causing a lot of static while tuning in anything from the west.
 
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Reply #1 - May 13th, 2009 at 11:14pm

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You could get an aeronautical chart or airport/facility directory... Wink
 
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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2009 at 12:07am

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Have a trawl of the internet.....Wink

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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2009 at 12:12am
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Will see what I can find, I only ask because I haven't been able to find much as of yet Smiley

Seems though I managed to tune into a Chicago frequency.  Picking up all kinds of interesting communications, according to FlightAware there is about 7+ flights in a holding patter just north of my town right now thanks to Chicago getting hammered by storms.  

What I would give to be able to take a trip to Fort Wayne in the morning to catch departures.  Seems like a few flights are diverting.  There's a JetBlue ERJ-190 that just landed there 15 minutes ago that was flying from JFK-ORD.  Judging by the radar there will be a few more interesting birds landing there shortly...FWA is usually quiet at night, but not now Shocked  So far there's 2 flights that originated in New York heading for ORD that have touched down at FWA.  Edit that...there's now a flight from Charleston, West Virginia just turned around and heading this way Tongue  Edit again, add a Wichita, Kansas flight inbound as well Shocked  FWA isn't this busy even at the peak hours of the day Shocked  Keeps this up I just might schedule a road trip at sun up Roll Eyes

Given the wind is picking up something fierce here its going to be a bad night when all this hits.  The main line of storms is still in Illinois but the wind is gusting over 40mph right now Shocked  Worst kind too, hot and humid, these storms look to be hitting us hard in a couple hours Sad
 
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Reply #4 - May 14th, 2009 at 1:10am
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I'm a huge scanner geek!  We were using scanners at races when they were still relatively big (think Motorola P50) and people looked at ya funny for using headphones......now they're literally everywhere.

Methinks 121.500 is the universal emergency freq.  Aside from that, when ya got some freetime, and it's "rush hour" at your local aerodrome(s), and your scanner has a progammable freq search feature........

......118.000 for your low limit, 136.9875 for your high limit....

Then you can pause on 'hits' and either use the auto-program feature, if thusly equipped, or jot down the actives you find to input after your listening session.

Hope dis helps!
 
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2009 at 1:16am

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I've been wanting a scanner for years, but never got around to it. What's a good handheld scanner that can pick up a wide range of frequencies?
 
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Reply #6 - May 14th, 2009 at 1:46am
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BFMF wrote on May 14th, 2009 at 1:16am:
I've been wanting a scanner for years, but never got around to it. What's a good handheld scanner that can pick up a wide range of frequencies?


Uniden makes some excellent models.  But I've gone thru two in the last 12 or so years.  Both of them started eating batteries at ever increasing rates

So my newest (last summer) is Radio Shack's "Race 1000".  10 banks of 100 channels each, easy search-scan programming, easy manual programming, 8 pre-programmed search banks of popular freqs(CB, air, marine, ham, FRS/Gmrs...etc.) 

Figured I'd try another Radio Shack unit due to the fact that my first scanner, a 60 channel jobber, is still going strong with the ORIGINAL four rechargable AA batteries(also Radio Shack)!  It amazes me that this puppy still works, despite countless drops, mishaps, wet a time or two.....

The "Race 1000" is small-ish, but very feature-packed, and equals the Unidens I've had to 'retire'.

There's all kinds out there.  BUT, you DO get what you pay for!  You want a nice scanner? Probably $149 to $200.

 
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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2009 at 1:57am

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Try this:

http://skyvector.com/

...you might also find frequencies appropriate for traffic in your area by looking up the airports here:

http://www.airnav.com/
 

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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2009 at 8:25am

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Scanners are a blast !  Cheesy

I've owned several over the years, and have also found that Radio Shack's house brand (most likely made by Uniden), are the best deals. They just don't wear out and are priced reasonably.

To really enjoy a scanner for aviation listening.. you need to be near an airport.. else you only hear one side of the conversation. When I'm in Columbus, I like to go down to the big airport (KCMH) and listen to the tower, ground and clearance channels. Writing down clearances, and pretending to read them back, is great practice for real pilots.

Also.. go to www.flightaware.com and check out arriving departing flights, for any interesting aircraft. You don't wanna be caught off guard when, "Northwest 3447" turns out to be a Bae-146, and your camera is out of reach  Cheesy
 
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Reply #9 - May 14th, 2009 at 8:41am

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This is what I have running in the background during my sim flights...

Live ATC from selected Airports:

http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=all#klax

Brings the flight to life!.. Grin...!

Paul...B-BPLF... Cool...!

...a good example of just how confusing Air Traffic Communication can sometimes be in real life... Shocked...!
 

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Reply #10 - May 14th, 2009 at 12:01pm

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I've been thinking about getting this kit to build, but I'm hesitent on spending $50 for a kit, and mess up and it not work

http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=AR1C
 
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Reply #11 - May 14th, 2009 at 12:21pm

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BFMF wrote on May 14th, 2009 at 12:01pm:
I've been thinking about getting this kit to build, but I'm hesitent on spending $50 for a kit, and mess up and it not work

http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=AR1C


That would be a lot of fun.. and good learning  Smiley  It would be a great, secondary monitor.. but you'd find it tiresome, trying to switch channels while following a jet from clearance delivery, to ground, to tower, to departure.. and of course not being able to scan several channels between "action".

Of course.. at a busy airport, there's plenty to listen to, one channel at a time  Cool
 
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Reply #12 - May 14th, 2009 at 12:45pm

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I've thought about getting an Air Band Receiver in the past....

...but having experienced the ATC Chatter between the Tower and the Aircraft, using...>>>

http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=all#klax

..I find that following the silence, whilst studying my gauges and peering out of the windscreen for any dangers, and suddenly experiencing a burst of incomprehensible Radio Chatter invading my sensitive ears, followed by total silence again, and not being to understand a single word spoken.... Shocked....

I rapidly gave up that idea!...Wink... Wink...!

I just wish that they would either tap, or blow on the Microphone in advance, to give me prior warning that something is about to be said, so that my concentration will be transferred to "listening" to what is being said, (instead of me wondering; "....what on Earth was that all about?... Shocked....)...... Grin...!

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Reply #13 - May 14th, 2009 at 12:52pm

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Brett_Henderson wrote on May 14th, 2009 at 12:21pm:
BFMF wrote on May 14th, 2009 at 12:01pm:
I've been thinking about getting this kit to build, but I'm hesitent on spending $50 for a kit, and mess up and it not work

http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=AR1C


That would be a lot of fun.. and good learning  Smiley  It would be a great, secondary monitor.. but you'd find it tiresome, trying to switch channels while following a jet from clearance delivery, to ground, to tower, to departure.. and of course not being able to scan several channels between "action".

Of course.. at a busy airport, there's plenty to listen to, one channel at a time  Cool


True, and if it doesn't work, i'm out $50, and then I would end up buying a scanner. Or I could get a scanner and be able to pick up a wider range of frequencies

I saw this on radio shack's website. I wonder if it's any good?

PRO-164 1000-Channel Handheld Scanner
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2970547

This site has more information
http://www.scannermaster.com/RadioShack_PRO_164_Police_Scanner_p/22-501222.htm
 
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Reply #14 - May 14th, 2009 at 5:31pm
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Here's the one I currently have.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2963186

The thing I REALLY like about it is the "Alpha-Tagging" feature.  Using this, you can input alpha/numeric 'labels' to each stored freq. 

Very helpful if you live in a metro area and don't want to memorize all the freqs you have stored so you know what city/municipality/agency/airport pops up.  You can also label the banks.  Mine has NASCAR for 1 & 2, CB/FRMS on 3, ham on 4, air on 5, local law and EMA on 6, city/suburb agencies on 7 & 8, and 9 for temporary stuff. 

Some freqs are really helpful!  Like the 2-meter hams!  Most all the local stormspotters and weather related EMAs are in the 140s.
Bad weather hits, just flip the scanner on and listen to the spotters and EMA managers and you WILL know exactly where, what and how bad the current conditions are.

At 100 channels per bank, methinks you could come close to filling it in maybe NY or LA......but I haven't come close to even 500 yet!
 
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BFMF wrote on May 14th, 2009 at 12:52pm:
Brett_Henderson wrote on May 14th, 2009 at 12:21pm:
BFMF wrote on May 14th, 2009 at 12:01pm:
I've been thinking about getting this kit to build, but I'm hesitent on spending $50 for a kit, and mess up and it not work

http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=AR1C


That would be a lot of fun.. and good learning  Smiley  It would be a great, secondary monitor.. but you'd find it tiresome, trying to switch channels while following a jet from clearance delivery, to ground, to tower, to departure.. and of course not being able to scan several channels between "action".

Of course.. at a busy airport, there's plenty to listen to, one channel at a time  Cool


True, and if it doesn't work, i'm out $50, and then I would end up buying a scanner. Or I could get a scanner and be able to pick up a wider range of frequencies

I saw this on radio shack's website. I wonder if it's any good?

PRO-164 1000-Channel Handheld Scanner
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2970547

This site has more information
http://www.scannermaster.com/RadioShack_PRO_164_Police_Scanner_p/22-501222.htm


That would be an excellent choice. It's a newer version of my scanner. You'd be hard-pressed to outgrow that thing.. I'm still learning to use mine, and THAT one has more features..  The ablility to auto-tune to nearby broadcasts is intersting. Drive around apartment complexes and listen in on cordless (not cell) phone conversations.. LOL  Lips Sealed
 
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...things to be aware of...Wink...>>>>

UK Regulations: Restrictions on use:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/guidance

http://www.police-scanner.info/scanning/police-scanner-laws.htm

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Fozzer wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 7:36am:
...things to be aware of...Wink...>>>>

UK Regulations: Restrictions on use:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/guidance

http://www.police-scanner.info/scanning/police-scanner-laws.htm

Paul...G-BPLF... Cool


Noted  Wink
 
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Fozzer wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 7:36am:
...things to be aware of...Wink...>>>>

UK Regulations: Restrictions on use:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/guidance

http://www.police-scanner.info/scanning/police-scanner-laws.htm

Paul...G-BPLF... Cool

The second one appears to be the US regulations.
 

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As an Electronics Engineer, I spent many years in my Garden Shed designing and building Valve Radios, Valve Audio Amplifiers, and Valve Radio Transmitters...anything with glass Valves, (still got loads of them!).

..but I could never be able to "operate" the Transmitters without a Broadcast Transmitter Licence....but it was a lot of fun building them... Smiley...!

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It's pretty strictly regulated here too.. You can't just build a transmitter and start broadcasting  Cheesy

.. well.. you CAN, on the Citizen Bands and the new UHF "personal communication device" frequencies, that all these new radios use.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9170078&st=radio&type=product&id=1...

As far as listening goes.. well.. common sense applies. No matter HOW many laws they pass, it's impossible to stop someone from recieving a radio broadcast  Wink
 
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Brett_Henderson wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 10:11am:
It's pretty strictly regulated here too.. You can't just build a transmitter and start broadcasting  Cheesy

.. well.. you CAN, on the Citizen Bands and the new UHF "personal communication device" frequencies, that all these new radios use.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9170078&st=radio&type=product&id=1...

As far as listening goes.. well.. common sense applies. No matter HOW many laws they pass, it's impossible to stop someone from receiving a radio broadcast  Wink


Shhhhh.... Wink....

...just don't tell anyone else you are doing it, and what you have been listening to!... Wink... Wink... Wink...!

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Reply #22 - May 15th, 2009 at 10:50pm
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While were on the radio subject, let's have a 'way-back' moment!

Who here as ever strung copper filament across the backyard and hooked up a crystal radio that they built from a kit?

Note to da youngsters.....no need for batteries!!! Shocked
 
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U4EA wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 10:50pm:
While were on the radio subject, let's have a 'way-back' moment!

Who here as ever strung copper filament across the backyard and hooked up a crystal radio that they built from a kit?

Note to da youngsters.....no need for batteries!!! Shocked


Hand up.... Smiley...!

Had mine in the early 1950's.... Wink...!

A Bakelite Case, with a "Cats Whisker" and a Crystal, a tuning coil, and two terminals for a pair of Headphones...

...and an EXTREMELY long aerial, stretching the total length of the garden!

Finally abandoned that (futile) idea, to to design and build my own Valve Radio sets....much more sensible... Grin...!

Paul....lost in the Crystal Mists of Time... Grin...!

...nostalgia... Wink....>>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

The only thing I ever received, was a pair of hot ears, through wearing headphone for many hours in the vain hope on hearing "something"...which rarely happened... Grin...!

An interesting fact: A Radio signal reception could often be obtained just by connecting the Headphones directly to the long Aerial. The coil within the headphones often tuned itself to an incoming signal; (AM Amplitude Modulated)...Wink...!
 

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Fozzer wrote on May 16th, 2009 at 4:02am:
U4EA wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 10:50pm:
While were on the radio subject, let's have a 'way-back' moment!

Who here as ever strung copper filament across the backyard and hooked up a crystal radio that they built from a kit?

Note to da youngsters.....no need for batteries!!! Shocked


Hand up.... Smiley...!

Had mine in the early 1950's.... Wink...!

A Bakelite Case, with a "Cats Whisker" and a Crystal, a tuning coil, and two terminals for a pair of Headphones...

...and an EXTREMELY long aerial, stretching the total length of the garden!

I made my own from an article in the Eagle comic (or it could have been the Boy's Own Paper). Mine was one of the later types with a germanium diode & variable capacitor for tuning.  The aerial stretched from my bedroom window right to the bottom of the garden, strung along the top of my Mum's washing line poles. It worked rather well but I suspect the proximity of the aerial to the relay radio cable might have had something to do with it. Roll Eyes Cheesy
 

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For communication over relatively short distances, I finally abandoned the "Crystal Radio" idea, and replaced it with an improved, later version, involving two Baked Bean tins, and a long piece of string... Smiley...!

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Brett_Henderson wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 7:11am:
That would be an excellent choice. It's a newer version of my scanner. You'd be hard-pressed to outgrow that thing.. I'm still learning to use mine, and THAT one has more features..  The ablility to auto-tune to nearby broadcasts is intersting. Drive around apartment complexes and listen in on cordless (not cell) phone conversations.. LOL  Lips Sealed


Which model do you have?

I thought that the frequency for those cordless phones were in the GHz range?
 
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BFMF wrote on May 16th, 2009 at 4:10pm:
Brett_Henderson wrote on May 15th, 2009 at 7:11am:
That would be an excellent choice. It's a newer version of my scanner. You'd be hard-pressed to outgrow that thing.. I'm still learning to use mine, and THAT one has more features..  The ablility to auto-tune to nearby broadcasts is intersting. Drive around apartment complexes and listen in on cordless (not cell) phone conversations.. LOL  Lips Sealed


Which model do you have?

I thought that the frequency for those cordless phones were in the GHz range?


Mine is a Pro-something  .. I'll have to dig it up. It's about 8 years old.. but the specs sound similar..

YEARS ago, cordless phones used 24 and 49 Mghz (same as baby monitors).. then they went up to 900Mghz.. now,  I think you're right, they're probably in the 2+Ghz, and quite possibly encrypted..
 
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