Simviation Forum - FIA scrutineer for McLaren in Brazil

Oct 11^th, 2007 at 8:51pm

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Now it is becoming plain silly.

The FIA is to appoint an official with special responsibility for ensuring that McLaren treats its two drivers equally at next weekend’s world title-deciding Brazilian Grand Prix.

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Reply #1 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 4:55am

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this is more to shut the spanish and british press up after the race, than to pick on Mclaren. You just know whoever loses, their respective countries tabloids are going to go stupid with the conspiracy stories.

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Reply #2 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 8:49am

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Craig. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2007 at 4:55am:

this is more to shut the spanish and british press up after the race, than to pick on Mclaren. You just know whoever loses, their respective countries tabloids are going to go stupid with the conspiracy stories.

Remember, there is a possibility BOTH could still lose...

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Reply #3 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 9:03am

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Which would make not only me a happy bunny, but then turn the forces of evil (i mean the tabloids of spain and england) entirely on the countries of Italy and Finland. Wink

Someone put forth the theory that Alonso would rather Kimi win than Lewis, so he could take Hamilton out at the start in a prost/senna fashion. I doubt that ever would happen.

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Reply #4 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 9:14am

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Craig. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2007 at 4:55am:

this is more to shut the spanish and british press up after the race, than to pick on Mclaren. You just know whoever loses, their respective countries tabloids are going to go stupid with the conspiracy stories.

I do see a solution to all of this:

Ron...."Come in Fernando"

Fernando....."What can I do for you Boss"

Ron....."You can pack your bags, you are fired in accordance with your contract, paragraph (?) that covers behavior and remarks that are not becoming of the McLaren image or a McLaren employee"

Fernando....."But"

Ron......But nothing, bye" Grin

.......................Better idea, after the last race, fire him for the above reason before he has a chance to say he is leaving the team world champion or not.

............Probably best that I don't have anything to do with these things Grin

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Reply #5 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 9:22am

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I know its unlikely, but I think it is in Mclarens interest to keep Alonso if he wins the title. That alone will bring them the money they are going to need to survive next season, plus they could then also carry the numbers 1-2 on the cars. Otherwise, despite everything they've done this year, they'll have nothing from it, as FA will take his trophy and number 1 back to Renault.
Latest rumors have a straight swap, Kovalinen for Alonso now. Now if thats true, Mclaren would have hit gold, two young drivers, both capable of winning a championship, with a whole career to do it.

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Reply #6 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 9:22am

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............Probably best that I don't have anything to do with these things

You and me both. Wink

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Reply #7 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 9:30am

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Joking above aside, how would this work. Lewes for example chooses a different setup to Fernando (as drivers tend to do in all teams) and is faster, gets pole or the win ( Cheesy

), Fernando bleets, what will happen as far as the scrutineer is concerned? What sort of power would he have. Remover that, add that, put that setting on that car so they are they are the same.

Sadly at the end of the day, the only way to dispel all of this is for Alonso to win because even if Lewis came 19th and Alonso came 20th, he would still complain that his car was not up to the mark and Hamilton had the better car.

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Reply #8 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 9:43am

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To be fair on that side. It was actually Lewis who was always given Fernando's setup as a base for his car, it wasn't until he stopped Lewis having the baseline, that Alonso started to out drive Lewis. So the irony is, FA for the first half of the season, made his title chances that much harder by giving a rival, the data needed to go quickly.
Brazil will be a true test for Lewis and his car setup abilities. This isn't as we know, the standard super smooth tillke race track, with nice wide run offs. This is not the sort of track a rookie will be wanting to have to defend a lead on thats for sure. I could see a silverstone like race, but worse.
Massa is going to be the key to this race, last year he did really well here. Infact had it not been for the driving of Schumacher, I think he could have happily run off into the distance instead of holding station, just incase. So he's someone Mclaren are going to have to be ahead of.

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Reply #9 - Oct 12^th, 2007 at 7:39pm

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To be quite honest ...... I want to see Lewis win it.

However .......I also want to see a serious scrap throughout the weekend ...... It's the closest season in years and it will be fitting if it goes out with a bang. No matter who wins.

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Reply #10 - Oct 13^th, 2007 at 2:21am

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eno wrote on Oct 12^th, 2007 at 7:39pm:

To be quite honest ...... I want to see Lewis win it.

However .......I also want to see a serious scrap throughout the weekend ...... It's the closest season in years and it will be fitting if it goes out with a bang. No matter who wins.

Even if he loses, Hamilton will have won this year, he has made such an impression.

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Reply #11 - Oct 13^th, 2007 at 10:46am

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true ex-pat , and so will have McLaren. geez, i remember a time (like'94-96) when no one even mentioned the name McLaren. Ahhh, the return of the glory days.... Grin

an FIA scruntineer ? you have GOT to be kiddin Huh

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Go Lewis ! Fernando booo, boo Fernando booo. Cheesy

Will Shumy be in attendace at Sao Paulo , or has Kimi 'banned' him for the weekend ? Grin

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Reply #12 - Oct 15^th, 2007 at 9:24pm

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You know McClaren needs this so much, cus you know how Alonso is always being cheated by someone Wink

. The FIA needs to take a serious stand against all these teams cheating their drivers and beating down their egos. As a matter of fact, why doesn't FOM just enact a mandatory penalty to any team who blames their driver for driving slower, or even off the road. THE TEAMS ARE JUST SO OUT OF CONTROL, THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

Those jerks Angry

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Reply #13 - Oct 15^th, 2007 at 9:29pm

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Nelson wrote on Oct 13^th, 2007 at 10:46am:

true ex-pat , and so will have McLaren. geez, i remember a time (like'94-96) when no one even mentioned the name McLaren. Ahhh, the return of the glory days.... Grin

an FIA scruntineer ? you have GOT to be kiddin Huh

WAFJ

Go Lewis ! Fernando booo, boo Fernando booo. Cheesy

Will Shumy be in attendace at Sao Paulo , or has Kimi 'banned' him for the weekend ? Grin

Have I missed some gossip? Is schumi bad luck?

"If you would not be forgotten, as soon as you are dead and rotten, either write things worth reading, or do things worth the writing" -Ben Franklin&&&&"Man must rise above the Earth to the top of the atmosphere and beyond, for only thus will he fully understand the world in which he lives." - Socrates&&&&" Flying is a religion. A religion that asymilates all who get a taste of it." - Me&&&&"Make the most out of yourself, for that is all there is of you"- Ralf Waldo Emerson&&

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Reply #14 - Oct 16^th, 2007 at 1:45am

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Oct 15^th, 2007 at 9:29pm:

Nelson wrote on Oct 13^th, 2007 at 10:46am:

true ex-pat , and so will have McLaren. geez, i remember a time (like'94-96) when no one even mentioned the name McLaren. Ahhh, the return of the glory days.... Grin

an FIA scruntineer ? you have GOT to be kiddin Huh

WAFJ

Go Lewis ! Fernando booo, boo Fernando booo. Cheesy

Will Shumy be in attendace at Sao Paulo , or has Kimi 'banned' him for the weekend ? Grin

Have I missed some gossip? Is schumi bad luck?

Kimi jokingly said to an italian paper that Michael shouldn't come to the races, because every time he does something bad happens to his car.

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