Simviation Forum - No Gauges

Reply #15 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 4:48pm

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_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 3:23pm:

Hey Hagar, I understand what you are saying about the sound issue, but the creator has this acft. set up to be installed the way I explained. The acft's "sound.cfg" file has this entry....

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alias=SOUND\C182-RG which directs it to the FSX\SOUND\c182-RG folder. If anyone dumps them into the C206 Stationaire's sound folder, then they are going to have to come up with a sound.cfg file to work.

Now Bob70, as far as there not being any gauges for you, I don't know. Did you do a full install of FSX or a Custom install? I am wondering if this might have anything to do with it.

Other than those two gauges, it uses the default FSX gauges from the .dll files. The gauge files in .dll format is a new for FSX....right Hagar? And yours Bob70 was the first acft. I have downloaded so it can't be that I have any EXTRA gauges that are needed. The only thing left that I can think of is something is wrong in the acft.'s panel.cfg you have or maybe if you didn't do a complete install.........don't know if that is it....just trying to think of what could be different from you and me, other than I am probably better looking........ Wink

Check your FSX GAUGES folder compared to mine:

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Let me know if you need anything.

Yes, I have the full download deluxe edition of FSX . I compared my gage folder to yours and they are the same. The photo of the panel that Hager shows is just like what I have. Blank Gray. It would be great if you guys that really know what you are doing solve this problem. I'm standing by.

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Reply #16 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 4:53pm

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This explains a lot. Thanks for posting it Fireman old chap.

Those Cessna DLL files are the missing gauges which I don't have.

PS. Bob should have them though.

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Reply #17 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 5:41pm

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Ok, I give........UNCLE! Wink

I did find the complete sound.cfg file so I did the simple thing and placed the sound files and complete sound.cfg file into the Stationair's sound folder. Got rid of the other in the FSX SOUND folder.

And Pete......I too have no VC just as in your pic.

Compared entries in the 172 and C206 as they are the same. Only thing I can find different in the two acft. as far as the VC issue is concerned is in the models. Could the problem lie there? I have never understood VCs and won't pretend to.

Edited as I just saw Bob's post. Bob, are you talking about the VC cockpit? That is what Hagar and Pete posted pics of. One's in the daytime and the other is at night. Like I said, my Virtual Cockpit is bland too. But my other panel views in Cockpit have all the gauges. Looky here:

See, I wasn't lying! Wink

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Reply #18 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 5:46pm

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_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 5:41pm:

And Pete......I too have no VC just as in your pic.

Compared entries in the 172 and C206 as they are the same.

Ah, now we're getting somewhere. I don't think they're the correct DVC entries for this aircraft.

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Reply #19 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 5:51pm

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_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 5:41pm:

Ok, I give........UNCLE! Wink

I did find the complete sound.cfg file so I did the simple thing and placed the sound files and complete sound.cfg file into the Stationair's sound folder. Got rid of the other in the FSX SOUND folder.

And Pete......I too have no VC just as in your pic.

Compared entries in the 172 and C206 as they are the same. Only thing I can find different in the two acft. as far as the VC issue is concerned is in the models. Could the problem lie there? I have never understood VCs and won't pretend to.

Edited as I just saw Bob's post. Bob, are you talking about the VC cockpit? That is what Hagar and Pete posted pics of. One's in the daytime and the other is at night.

A BIG YES The same pics in the VC cockpit

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Reply #20 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:10pm

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Bob70 wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 5:51pm:

_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 5:41pm:

Edited as I just saw Bob's post. Bob, are you talking about the VC cockpit? That is what Hagar and Pete posted pics of. One's in the daytime and the other is at night.

A BIG YES The same pics in the VC cockpit

Right. Now look at this.

I found the original FS2004 version of the aircraft & swapped panels. The DVC entries are completely different. Unfortunately some of the gauges are incompatible with FSX.

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Reply #21 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:10pm

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Finally figured it out. I've got the gages in the 2-d cockpit. There just isn't any in the VC mode. I guess thats just the way it is.

Thanks, Bob......Happy Flying

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Reply #22 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:11pm

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Ok Bob, start your flight sim up and go to settings. Hit the Customize tab and then the ACFT tab. Uncheck 3-D Virtual Cockpit and check 2-D Instrument panel.

Select the C206 and go fly. This STARTS you out in the 2D cockpit that has all the gauges. You were starting in the Virtual Cockpit that is bad for this acft.

You can still get to the VC in flight using the "Views" menu in game while in Window Mode. Views-View Mode-Cockpit and here you can select the Virtual Cockpit or the regular 2-D cockpit.

For fun, I checked the FSX C172 and it's the same dang 2-D Inst. panel and same VC. So I threw the 172's panel folders into the c206 acft folder. Same result, get the 2D cockpit but no gauges in the VC.

Checked everything else between the two acft. and the only difference I can see is in the model files. I don't mess with those as that is another area that escapes me.

The only option is to contact the author and let him know his VC no worky!

In the meantime, we can fly with the 2D cockpit.

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Reply #23 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:26pm

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_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:11pm:

Ok Bob, start your flight sim up and go to settings. Hit the Customize tab and then the ACFT tab. Uncheck 3-D Virtual Cockpit and check 2-D Instrument panel.

Select the C206 and go fly. This STARTS you out in the 2D cockpit that has all the gauges. You were starting in the Virtual Cockpit that is bad for this acft.

You can still get to the VC in flight using the "Views" menu in game while in Window Mode. Views-View Mode-Cockpit and here you can select the Virtual Cockpit or the regular 2-D cockpit.

Save a lot of messing around & use the keyboard shortcuts. F9 for VC mode & F10 for 2D panel.

You're quite right though. This update is obviously set up for the 2D cockpit.

Happy New Year chaps.

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Reply #24 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:35pm

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Thanks Fireman

Were cooking on all burners now.

Cool

Bob

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Reply #25 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:41pm

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Hagar wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:26pm:

_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:11pm:

Ok Bob, start your flight sim up and go to settings. Hit the Customize tab and then the ACFT tab. Uncheck 3-D Virtual Cockpit and check 2-D Instrument panel.

Select the C206 and go fly. This STARTS you out in the 2D cockpit that has all the gauges. You were starting in the Virtual Cockpit that is bad for this acft.

You can still get to the VC in flight using the "Views" menu in game while in Window Mode. Views-View Mode-Cockpit and here you can select the Virtual Cockpit or the regular 2-D cockpit.

Save a lot of messing around & use the keyboard shortcuts. F9 for VC mode & F10 for 2D panel.

You're quite right though. This update is obviously set up for the 2D cockpit.

Happy New Year chaps.

I haven't had time to learn keyboard shortcuts.........LOL Holy Cow Hagar.......I am older and therefore slower than before. Grin

At least now I know two keyboard shortcuts thanks to the all powerful Oz, I mean Hagar. But I will sleep tonight and forget them, CRAP!

Glad we got that sorted out Bob70. Enjoy flying your C206 Stationair.

And Happy New Year to all, be safe in your celebrations!

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Reply #26 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 10:09pm

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I just download this airplane to see if I was going have the problems I had with the Stationair.

FSX - Cessna L-19D (O-1D) model 305C , Bird Dog , Military version on wheels. New updated version 3.0 contains revised textures, model and Flight Dynamics for the famous light observation aircraft used by many World Air forces in the past. Two painting schemes, USAF and US ARMY included. The model, made with FSDS from ABACUS features a complete set of animations 2d and a 3d virtual cockpit and the animated pilot head. Visual Model and textures paint by Massimo Taccoli with support from Chris Coarse. Panel works by Massimo Taccoli with added gauges by Dennis Seeley who prepared also the Flight dynamics for model. 3.4MB

I'm a happy camper. It installed slick as a whistle. All the right files were in one folder. All I had to do was drag and drop it into the FSX airplane folder. One step. Why can't they all be this simple to install. Really nice little flying airplane. It is one of the models that I have in my real flying model airplane collection.

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Reply #27 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 10:30pm

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There are sooooo many variables as to why some acft. intallations have problems. Creator...how good are they, do they use default gauges or specialized ones, panel, sound, visuals etc. complexity of the acft.

When I first started in MS flight sims with CFS1, CFS2 and FS2000, I really liked the self installers too. That is until I started running into problems and finding out why.
With help of many, including Hagar, I really got to know the sims and installing things as acft., repaints, aliasing, sounds, fx., scenery and so on.

Now all my installs are manually, regardless if it comes in an auto installer. Usually I can spot a problem, if there is one, while installing the add on. If I don't spot it and see a problem when I try the new addon, I can usually find the cause of problem shortly and most times fix it.

Sometimes you can't fix them as the author forgot to include some files in the zip file.

To make a long story short, it pays dividends to learn the sim inside and out.

I still don't and NEVER will know as much as Hagar (and others).

But hell, Hagar has been messing with this stuff since the Microsoft Dinosaur Sims came out LONG ago! Grin

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