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Warning...Installing Acft. Issues with FSX!! (Read 725 times)

Dec 31^st, 2006 at 4:14pm

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Thought I would stick this up as we are starting to see issues with installing acft. to FSX and some problems, like panel.bmps and gauges not showing.

Remember, there are TWO different versions of FSX that can be bought.........the "Standard" edition and the "Deluxe" edition.

It is beginning to look like many issues are popping up regarding this "Which edition the creator of acft. are using and which edition you bought!"

Perhaps acft. creators need to specify which Edition the acft. was created for or if they made them compatible for both.

Recommendations, suggestions and thoughts welcome!

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Reply #1 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 4:25pm

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yeah - i havnt tried any additional aircraft yet. probably wont for another week or so, but if there is an issue of compatability with FSX and FSX deluxe then there should certainly be two seperate download areas for eaither version on simV. Either that or the creators should communicate that their aircraft was designed for and tested on ___ edition or both editions etc.

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Reply #2 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 5:35pm

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I'm not sure this will be an issue. It's only a suspicion as we've been here before with FS2000 & FS2002. It wasn't really a big problem but it could explain why gauges aren't showing up for some people. I was very disappointed to see they'd gone back to 2 different versions of FSX after getting it right with FS9.*

I saw it mentioned somewhere about pasting copies of default gauges from the Panel folders of default aircraft into FSX\Gauges. Not sure if this is necessary for some 3rd party panels to work properly.

* Please note, this is a simple observation. I don't want to start WWIII. Tongue

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Reply #3 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:44pm

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You are right Hagar. It would be a simple fix if this is or becomes an issue with acft. installation. A download of the various gauges that are "Extras" from the FSX Delux version.

This was just meant to make pilots aware of a POTENTIAL problem...........

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Reply #4 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:50pm

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_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 6:44pm:

You are right Hagar. It would be a simple fix if this is or becomes an issue with acft. installation. A download of the various gauges that are "Extras" from the FSX Delux version.

Ah no, I didn't say that. Shocked

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I don't think it would be legal. Tongue

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With FS2000 & FS2002 it was general practice for the author of the files to state in the file description if they were suitable for the Pro (or Deluxe in FSX) version only.

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Reply #5 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:04pm

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I was going to post something sililar. The problems I am having are roughly the same. I was also hoping someone who has working panels for the S-71/Bob Chicilo (2D) & F16 viper/kirk olssen (3d or 2D) might post their panel.cfg file(s) with recomended panel d/l's, so that they can fully work in fsx deluxe. I am hitting roadblocks only with the guages. All of the effects, etc are woking great.

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Reply #6 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:08pm

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I'm really searching my memory and will be corrected quickly, I'm sure Tongue

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Wasn't the Concorde (and its gauge file) a FS2002Pro only deal ? And wasn't it quickly common and accepted practice to share that gauge ?

Hagar is right. It was a horrible decision to go back to the two edition thing. Especially with so much of the sim's success built on freeware add-ons and the dependency on "default" gauges. Makes you wonder what they were thinking Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:29pm

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Brett_Henderson wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:08pm:

I'm really searching my memory and will be corrected quickly, I'm sure Tongue

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Wasn't the Concorde (and its gauge file) a FS2002Pro only deal ? And wasn't it quickly common and accepted practice to share that gauge ?

If I remember correctly the Concorde was introduced with FS2000 but I have no idea if it was included with both versions. It was left out of FS2002 as that terrible accident happened just before it was released. The default Concorde.gau was also included with CFS2, FS2002 & FS9 along with many common default gauges from both sims. Again, I'm not certain if it was missing from FS2002 Standard edition. I often wondered why it was posted on various sites so perhaps it was.

While I'm having a moan, it seems that gauges from earlier versions of FS are not included with FSX. The CFS2 & FS9 defaults I've tried appear to work perfectly.

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Reply #8 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:35pm

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What I've done is to install several but dofferemt models of addon-on FSX aircraft which I've successfuly downloaded and simply alias addtional models of similar design. For example: Twin wing mounted aircraft such as B737, AB321, and others of similar design use one type panel and gauges, thru alias. Twin rear engines aircraft aliased together and four wing mounted models aliased. As newer and better panels and sounds are introduced, it won't be difficult to incorporate them to the collection. Does this make sense?

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Reply #9 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:39pm

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Yeah.. the fact that it's downloadable all over the place (concorde gauge) left me remembering that it was left out of one of the versions.. else we'd all have it.

And yes too re: FS9 gauges. I just went ahead and put all the FS9 gauges in my FSX gauge folder, not replacing duplicates.

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Reply #10 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:55pm

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Bubblehead wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:35pm:

What I've done is to install several but dofferemt models of addon-on FSX aircraft which I've successfuly downloaded and simply alias addtional models of similar design. For example: Twin wing mounted aircraft such as B737, AB321, and others of similar design use one type panel and gauges, thru alias. Twin rear engines aircraft aliased together and four wing mounted models aliased. As newer and better panels and sounds are introduced, it won't be difficult to incorporate them to the collection. Does this make sense?

Yes, it makes sense up to a point. It really depends what you want. Aliasing works fine for the 2D panels but the DVC gauges won't display. This is fine for aircraft without a VC.

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Reply #11 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 8:00pm

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Brett_Henderson wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 7:39pm:

Yeah.. the fact that it's downloadable all over the place (concorde gauge) left me remembering that it was left out of one of the versions.. else we'd all have it.

This still puzzles me. I already have Concorde.gau included by default in FS2000, CFS2, FS2002 Pro & FS9. I just confirmed that Concorde was featured in both editions of FS2000 so the gauge must also have been included in both. Roll Eyes

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And yes too re: FS9 gauges. I just went ahead and put all the FS9 gauges in my FSX gauge folder, not replacing duplicates.

Wise to be careful as I suspect this could easily cause conflicts.

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Reply #12 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 8:05pm

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Wise to be careful as I suspect this could easily cause conflicts.

No doubt, but sorting them out (conflicts) is easier (for me) than going through the panel.cfg and making sure every gauge is there for a d-load or FS9 plane that "works" in FSX..

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Reply #13 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 8:11pm

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Brett_Henderson wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 8:05pm:

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Wise to be careful as I suspect this could easily cause conflicts.

No doubt, but sorting them out (conflicts) is easier (for me) than going through the panel.cfg and making sure every gauge is there for a d-load or FS9 plane that "works" in FSX..

I agree but I wasn't thinking of old hands like you. Tongue

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Remember the problems we had with older versions of GPS.gau overwriting the FS2002 default? I lost count of how many times that cropped up on this forum alone. That's just one example of possible future problems we can expect, especially now those darned auto-installers are popular.

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Reply #14 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 8:19pm

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Yeah ..lol.. we're gonna have fun this year..

Let me RE-emphasize (in case anyone is foolish enough to listen to me).. DO not "replace" anything if you DO paste your FS9 gauges into FSX.

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