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Dec 30th, 2006 at 6:34pm

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Where are the gages? I downloaded and installed this airplane.

FSX Cessna C206H Stationair V2.0 This is a North American Registry (N206RX) re-paint of the Cessna C206H Stationair VERSION 2.0 (Complete Aircraft) by Blue Sky Simulations, Roger Bonne & GUIDEE Francois-Denis. VERSION 2.0 has been reworked after reports of a few errors in the files. ALL ERRORS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED! This model has been throughly flight tested and flys like a dream! All textures are rendered in DXT-3 format for crisp texturing without sacrificing frame rates. Originally modeled for FS2004, this rendition of the sturdy aircraft has been modified to work within the FS-X platform. Includes customized panel and sound package by Peter Spanakos. Both an analog and Garmin G1000 glass panel versions have been included. Brian C. Selb 16.8MB

I had trouble with the sound also, but got that working by using the sound files from a Cessna 182.  How do I get a set of gages. I didn't have these kind of problems with installing addons in FS9 as I'm having with FSX. Thanks for any help anyone can give me.

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Reply #1 - Dec 30th, 2006 at 7:35pm

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Hi Bob. I downloaded the file to check it out for you. It looks to me that quite a few gauges are missing from the package. Some of these could well be FS9 default gauges not included with FSX. I'm using the FSX Demo so I'm not sure which gauges are included with the full version & the fact that there are two different versions of FSX complicates this even further.

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I had trouble with the sound also, but got that working by using the sound files from a Cessna 182.

The sound problem is easy to explain. You should find a separate folder named SOUND in the Airplanes folder alongside the Stationair. Paste this into the FSX\SimObjects\airplanes folder as the Stationair sound.cfg is aliased to it. I don't know why it's been configured like this. It would have been much easier to include the files in the Sound folder of the aircraft in the usual way.

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I didn't have these kind of problems with installing addons in FS9 as I'm having with FSX.

I think this is due to inexperience by the authors of the files. Just a matter of bad luck really.
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 30th, 2006 at 8:24pm

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Many 2004 downloads use gauges from FS9/FS8 and such... and are no longer supported...

those files from ealier downloads that will work are the XML ones...

you will need to alias pannels from the defult planes untill FSX compliant updates are available....

in the pannels.config remove what is there and add this....

[fltsim]
alias=(
add defult aircraft file here
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Reply #3 - Dec 30th, 2006 at 8:44pm

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BourneID wrote on Dec 30th, 2006 at 8:24pm:
Many 2004 downloads use gauges from FS9/FS8 and such... and are no longer supported...

That shouldn't be the case here. This one is supposed to have been updated for FSX complete with panels & gauges. -->
FSX Cessna C206H Stationair V2.0

PS. I suggest contacting the author via his website in the Readme.
 

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Reply #4 - Dec 30th, 2006 at 9:04pm

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Thanks for the help. It's all making sense now. I think I'll just hold off downloading anything till FSX gets it's act together. The few airplanes I have managed to install have been a hassle.  To many files to move around to get the plane in one piece and working. With FS 2004  it seemed to be a lot simpler. Just unzip the file and drag and drop the right folder into the airplane folder. Oh well things will get better.  Thanks again. Other than this Fsx seems to be running ok on my computer. Frame rates around 15 to 20 with settings from medium high to high. Not bad if you blink a lot.  Here are my specs for comparison.  I  also have the Real Flight model airplane sim "RealFlight G3" that runs real well with good frame rates.  Hope FSX will improve it this area.

System:  Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Processor:  AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+,  MMX,  3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory:  2046MB RAM
DX Version:  DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Video Card:  NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS
     MFR:  NVIDIA
     Version:  6.14.0010.9131 (English)
     Date:  6/1/2006 14:22:00, 4529408 bytes
CD-ROM (?:\) DVDRW IDE 16X (?)
CD-ROM (?:\) LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160H6S (?)
CD-ROM (?:\) PHILIPS DVD8421 (?)
Installed in: C:\Program Files\RealFlightG3
Free Disk Space (C:\): 188053 mb free
Launcher Version: 1.00.175
RealFlight G3: 3.50.033

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Reply #5 - Dec 30th, 2006 at 9:08pm

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Bob70 wrote on Dec 30th, 2006 at 9:04pm:
Thanks for the help. It's all making sense now. I think I'll just hold off downloading anything till FSX gets it's act together. The few airplanes I have managed to install have been a hassle.  To many files to move around to get the plane in one piece and working. With FS 2004  it seemed to be a lot simpler. Just unzip the file and drag and drop the right folder into the airplane folder. Oh well things will get better.

It should be no different in FSX. All depends on who configured the files for posting. Most of the aircraft I've checked out in FSX have been no problem at all. As I said, I think it's just a matter of bad luck in your case.
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 1:27pm

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I downloaded the acft. from Hagar's link to the acft. Assuming this is the right one, which I did,  Wink it works just fine if installed correctly.

Sound worked fine and gauges worked fine.

Here is how I installed manually, which you should always do. Author states to "Navigate to blah blah blah". NO!

Navigate through his folders until you come to TWO folders: Gauges and SimObjects.  In the "Gauges" folder you find two gauges, c206.gau and mp.gau. Put both of these gauges into your FSX-Gauges Folder.

Now go back to the "SimObjects" folder of the download. In there you find an "Airplanes" folder, in there you find two folders, "C_206 Stationair N206RX" folder AND "Sound" folder.

Take the "C_206 Stationair N206RX" folder and place this one in your FSX/SimObjects/Airplanes folder.

Go back to the "Sound" folder of the download. In this folder you see a "C182-RG" folder. <<<<Place THIS folder in your FSX/Sound folder.

Now when you fire up FSX, in acft. selection, select "Cessna". Select either of your two C 206 Stationair acft., when you do, it will give you a message about "Publisher could not be verified". Hit the "Run" tab, then hit "Yes". This adds the two gauges you installed for this acft. to a "Trusted" section in your fsx.cfg file. After that initial set up of those gauges, you won't get that warning again if you select this acft.

Enjoy.......and nice acft. too!
 

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Reply #7 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 2:34pm

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_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31st, 2006 at 1:27pm:
I downloaded the acft. from Hagar's link to the acft. Assuming this is the right one, which I did,  Wink it works just fine if installed correctly.

Sound worked fine and gauges worked fine.

Here is how I installed manually, which you should always do. Author states to "Navigate to blah blah blah". NO!

Navigate through his folders until you come to TWO folders: Gauges and SimObjects.  In the "Gauges" folder you find two gauges, c206.gau and mp.gau. Put both of these gauges into your FSX-Gauges Folder.

Now go back to the "SimObjects" folder of the download. In there you find an "Airplanes" folder, in there you find two folders, "C_206 Stationair N206RX" folder AND "Sound" folder.

Take the "C_206 Stationair N206RX" folder and place this one in your FSX/SimObjects/Airplanes folder.

Go back to the "Sound" folder of the download. In this folder you see a "C182-RG" folder. <<<<Place THIS folder in your FSX/Sound folder.

Now when you fire up FSX, in acft. selection, select "Cessna". Select either of your two C 206 Stationair acft., when you do, it will give you a message about "Publisher could not be verified". Hit the "Run" tab, then hit "Yes". This adds the two gauges you installed for this acft. to a "Trusted" section in your fsx.cfg file. After that initial set up of those gauges, you won't get that warning again if you select this acft.

Enjoy.......and nice acft. too!


Well I started over from scratch and followed all your instructions in order. Still a blank gray panel with no gages. The airplane, with sound  is all there and working ok. These gage files c206.gau and mp.gau. are in the FSX Gage folder. What to do now I don't know. Maybe redownload the zip file and try again.  Thanks for your help.

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Reply #8 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 2:51pm

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Bob70 wrote on Dec 31st, 2006 at 2:34pm:
Well I started over from scratch and followed all your instructions in order. Still a blank gray panel with no gages. The airplane, with sound  is all there and working ok. These gage files c206.gau and mp.gau. are in the FSX Gage folder. What to do now I don't know. Maybe redownload the zip file and try again.  Thanks for your help.

Bob

To be honest I would would forget it Bob. Most of the gauges were missing when I tried it with none at all in the DVC. I put that down to the fact that I'm using the Demo which doesn't have a full set of default gauges. If my old mate Fireman says it works for him I have to believe it. I can only assume the missing gauges are FSX defaults that I don't have.

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Go back to the "Sound" folder of the download. In this folder you see a "C182-RG" folder. <<<<Place THIS folder in your FSX/Sound folder.

I would have to disagree with that. For the aliased sound to work the SOUND folder you mention should be installed to FSX\SimObjects\airplanes with the C182-RG folder inside it.
This is copied straight from Sound.cfg:

[fltsim]
alias=SOUND\C182-RG

It would be much easier to paste the Sound files into the Stationair Sound folder & done with.
 

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Reply #9 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 3:23pm

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Hey Hagar, I understand what you are saying about the sound issue, but the creator has this acft. set up to be installed the way I explained. The acft's "sound.cfg" file has this entry....

[fltsim]
alias=SOUND\C182-RG  which directs it to the FSX\SOUND\c182-RG folder.  If anyone dumps them into the C206 Stationaire's sound folder, then they are going to have to come up with a sound.cfg file to work.

Now Bob70, as far as there not being any gauges for you, I don't know. Did you do a full install of FSX or a Custom install? I am wondering if this might have anything to do with it.

Other than those two gauges, it uses the default FSX gauges from the .dll files. The gauge files in .dll format is a new for FSX....right Hagar? And yours Bob70 was the first acft. I have downloaded so it can't be that I have any EXTRA gauges that are needed. The only thing left that I can think of is something is wrong in the acft.'s panel.cfg you have or maybe if you didn't do a complete install.........don't know if that is it....just trying to think of what could be different from you and me, other than I am probably better looking........ Wink Grin

Check your FSX GAUGES folder compared to mine:

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_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31st, 2006 at 3:23pm:
You are right Hagar on the Sound issue. If I were to keep this acft. I would just place the sounds directly into the acft.'s sound folder itself.

I only explained it that way as this is how the creator has set the acft. up to be installed.

Sorry to be pedantic but I still say that SOUND folder should be installed to FSX\SimObjects\airplanes. Tongue Anyway, that's besides the point.

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Now Bob70, as far as there not being any gauges for you, I don't know. Did you do a full install of FSX or a Custom install? I am wondering if this might have anything to do with it.

Other than those two gauges, it uses the default FSX gauges from the .dll files. This is a new format for gauges for FSX....right Hagar? And yours was the first acft. I have downloaded so it can't be that I have any EXTRA gauges that are needed. The only thing left that I can think of is something is wrong in the acft.'s panel.cfg you have or maybe if you didn't do a complete install.........don't know if that is it....just trying to think of what could be different from you and me, other than I am probably better looking........ Wink Grin

You would know more about me than me that as I'm still using the Demo which has a very limited set of gauges. Bob didn't say which version of FSX he has. If you remember this caused problems with some default gauges not being included with FS2002 Standard Edition.

There's something strange about this aircraft. I checked the panel out in the trial version of FS Panel Studio & the DVC works as advertised. This is what I get in FSX. Complete blank.
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I'm not convinced it's worth bothering with. Undecided

 

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Damn, I forgot about the "Standard" and "Deluxe" version. I got the Deluxe version. Check the gauges folder Bob and see what you don't have. Maybe I can send it to you.

Also, did you say a "Repaint". Is that what you installed....a repaint? Maybe we took off on an entirely different tangent............YIKES!

And Hagar, I will never dispute your wisdom........I learned you are the Master and one would do good to listen to you........you are sooooo right, especially with this statement...."You would know more about me than me ........" 

LMAO, I DO know more about you than you. I still like you anyway.  Grin
 

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Reply #12 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 3:56pm

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I think we can assume the majority of users here have the full version of FSX. A demo is just that - a demo - by definition incomplete.

I would suggest to anyone with the demo version - shell out & get the complete thing. There is no point in posting questions about the demo - it's not FSX - just a mere taster.

Edit:

Houston we have a problem.

(delux version of course - & FSX D lacking several of the FS9 gauges pointed to in the panel.cfg)

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I see the guy has (just as you guys have said) included FS9 gauges into the VCockpit element in the panel.cfg - in other words he has not included gauges.

I shall fix this somehow. We don't do incomplete files here at the 'V'  Wink

(We probably need to make a file with some essential FS9 gauges to add to the Gauges folder in FSX - so people won't have thi s problem in future)
 

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pete wrote on Dec 31st, 2006 at 3:56pm:
I think we can assume the majority of users here have the full version of FSX. A demo is just that - a demo - by definition incomplete.

I would suggest to anyone with the demo version - shell out & get the complete thing. There is no point in posting questions about the demo - it's not FSX - just a mere taster.

AFAIK I'm the only one here with the Demo Pete. I'm not forking out 60 quid for something I can't use simply to help troubleshoot other people's problems. Tongue
Bill Leaming tells me that the Demo is basically the same as the full version so I can use it for simple things like checking files out.

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you are sooooo right, especially with this statement...."You would know more about me than me ........"   

Typo or Freudian slip. LOL Wink
 

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_526th_Fireman wrote on Dec 31st, 2006 at 3:23pm:
Hey Hagar, I understand what you are saying about the sound issue, but the creator has this acft. set up to be installed the way I explained. The acft's "sound.cfg" file has this entry....

[fltsim]
alias=SOUND\C182-RG  which directs it to the FSX\SOUND\c182-RG folder.  If anyone dumps them into the C206 Stationaire's sound folder, then they are going to have to come up with a sound.cfg file to work.

No, it directs it to the FSX\SimObjects\airplanes\SOUND folder. Sorry Fireman but this file is configured to extract direct to FSX. While I wouldn't advise this, please note that the SOUND folder is in the Airplanes directory in the download alongside the C_206 Stationair N206RX folder. This means it should be pasted into the SimObjects\airplanes directory in FSX. That's how aliasing works. I've configured enough files to know what I'm talking about. Wink

The complete sound package is in the SOUND\C182-RG subfolder complete with its Sound.cfg. It would be simplicity itself to select all the files in that folder & paste them into the Stationair Sound folder thus avoiding further arguments. Smiley
 

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