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Uninstalled FSX (Read 1925 times)
Nov 10
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, 2006 at 5:28pm
Scudrunners
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I just finished uninstalling FSX and writing my one star review at Amazon.com. I will just chalk it up to a bad deal that I should have done more checking on before I bought. Of course since I pre-ordered it from Amazon.com, I didn't spend the time to track down the system requirements. I would have probable bought it anyhow since I am sure I have the minimum. But minimums don't cut it with this software.
Here's the way I see it. Microsoft released this early before Vista to get more people to buy Vista. When people see how crappy it runs on the average system with XP, they will want to go buy Vista to make it look better. But I ask myself, is Vista going to make this software look better. Sure Vista might have DX10 but will that help if you don't have a DX 10 compliant video card and right now they cost around $600+. I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed.
I notice on the commercials that Microsoft does not tell you how much money you have to spend on hardware to get the results they show in those commercials and in the screenshot from microsoft. IF you ask me, it is false and misleading advertising.
I only hope this post will save somebody else some disappointment.
Signed:
Very Disappointed (but should have known better since it is microcrap)
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Nov 10
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, 2006 at 5:45pm
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Nov 10
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, 2006 at 5:48pm
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Here we go again...
It's not Microsoft's fault your computer couldn't handle FSX, they are trying to sell a product, so of course they're not going to limit their customer base by telling people that a brand new, top of the line, high end video game will require a beefy machince to run it on full settings (which is an obvious given), they want people to buy it and tweek it, which is what 95% of the community is doing, the other 5% are just complaining about how difficult FSX has made their life (e.g. you). Just so you know, I am running FSX at a constant, locked 30 FPS at med-high settings, with a med-low computer, because I actually wanted it to work, and I appreciate the fact that MS is putting out the best flight simulator on the market. Welcome to the free world.
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Nov 10
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, 2006 at 6:59pm
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Mobius, are you saying that M€$ has NO FAULT over the shortcomings of a software THEY did? ???
Isn't it a lot like saying that a murderer has no fault over the people he killed because the only thing he did was to pull a trigger?
There's but one real cure for human stupidity. It's called DEATH.&&&&At the moment mourning the assassination of sarcasm and irony for the good of the "higher".&&&&Proud FSIX user. Active user of FS98, X-plane and novice of Orbiter.&&&&Seen the GREAT service pack for FSX and its usefulness, really awaiting for FS11 to upgrade.&&&&AMD Athlon Xp 2400@2700&&MB Asus A7V8XX&&1Gb ram DDR 400 @ 333&&ASL Nvidia Geforce 6600gt 128Mb DDR3 AGP&&Creative Sound Blaster Live&&Windows XP Professional Sp2&&2 HD Maxtor 40Gb - 1 HD Maxtor 80Gb
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Nov 10
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, 2006 at 7:20pm
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No, I'm saying MS has no fault in the shortcomings of your PC. The only shortcoming in the software I've found so far is the Airbus glitch mentioned in another topic. My point is that FSX runs well at high settings on high-end PCs and well on low settings on low-end PCs. There are plenty of videos on youtube that show FSX running great on high end PCs, and from experience, it runs great on lower-end PCs as well. It seems people are especially angry at MS becuase their four-year old PCs can't run FSX on full settings or like they ran FS9. It seems this is because MS is an extrememly successful company, and people are angry because of that. To use your murder analogy Ashman, it's like being angry at the gun manufacturer becuase their gun commited the murder instead of being angry the murderer himself (which is your computer in this case). I'm just tired of people claiming everyone's FSX is running poorly, when that is not the case at all.
Check out Alrot's screens here, and he's running FSX on a P3 system! What's the deal, I thought FSX ran awful on all computers?...
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=screen;action=display;num=...
That's probably it for me in this thread, I've made my opinion clear.
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Nov 10
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, 2006 at 8:07pm
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Mobius
Stop talking a complete load of **** . People complaining because MS is a succesfull company and they dont like it???? Surely you could come up with a better answer than that. How old are you?
I have an extremely high spec machine (well actually 4 of them) because I run a flight training sim over them, FS9 runs like a dream, FSX WHEN IT RUNS IS EXCELLENT, but trying to get it to install and then stay stable is a different matter, have tried all the tweaks, most work, yes it is trial and error. But the point the person was making in first post was that MS have released it before they should have done, dont agree with the Vista bit though. If you bought a car and it didnt run you would take it back, yes? same thing, a company has a duty if they are taking money off you to supply a product that is fit for purpose (contract law states this) unfortunatly at present FSX doesnt do that.
You are obviously very lucky having a it running smoothly, the majority of people havent, so instead of attacking them over their frustrations, why dont you back up your claims and share your tweaks and fix's with the rest of the FS sim community. Bit of a no brainer really.
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Nov 10
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, 2006 at 8:26pm
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You are obviously very lucky having a it running smoothly, the majority of people havent, so instead of attacking them over their frustrations, why dont you back up your claims and share your tweaks and fix's with the rest of the FS sim community. Bit of a no brainer really.
You're just very unlucky that it runs like crap for you. Instead of bitch about the game and at the people who have gotten the sim to run smoothly, why don't you do alittle research and fix it? Bit of a no brainer really.
If you're here to ask for help, we're glad to offer; but if you're just here to bitch, we, frankly, couldn't give a rat's ass
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Nov 10
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, 2006 at 8:46pm
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You're just very unlucky that it runs like crap for you. Instead of bitch about the game and at the people who have gotten the sim to run smoothly, why don't you do alittle research and fix it? Bit of a no brainer really.
If you're here to ask for help, we're glad to offer; but if you're just here to bitch, we, frankly, couldn't give a rat's ass
Thank you very much, now I'm not the only one "talking a complete load of ****".
@dougy: We were having a nice conversation there for a while, but oh well. If you're curious about me, you could try clicking on my name, or this link
HERE
. If that doesn't tell you enough about me, my name is Mike, I'm 20 and from Wisconsin, a student in Mechanical Engineering, and I like long walks on the beach and pepperoni pizza. If you can give me a better reason why people hate Microsoft, please, enlighten us. I believe that is the reason people dislike Microsoft because whenever certain people post about Microsoft, it's not MS, is M
$
, amongst other things. Like I said, I've not had a single problem with FSX (other than the Airbus rudder), and I've heard many more people who haven't had a problem. In addition, every major game-reviewing organization has rated FSX highly (higher than FS9 often), and failed to notice these game-stopping glitches and bugs you guys have noticed. If you want my tweaks and fixes, turn your settings down until your PC can actually handle it. In addition to the tweaks posted here, I have done nothing else to my FSX to adjust it. There, I've already said I was done with this thread, and apparently I've lied, so unless anyone else wants to personally attack me, I'm done (again).
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Nov 10
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, 2006 at 9:33pm
Nick N
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Get it hot off the presses...
http://www.fsgenesis.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=FSG&Categ...
It just keeps getting better and better
If you have a galaxy membership from FS9 like I do... its FREE!! With all the future updates
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Nov 11
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, 2006 at 3:57am
flymo
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mobius im with u
how in any way is it M$ fault that ur PC can not run FSX, its not its your fault for buying it without checking the specs like everyone with a brain does.
and yet some one else telling us why M$ have released it so early, im grateful for the early release of FSX adn im enjoying it.
so stop whining, check the specs and STFU about M$ being evil and scamming!
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Nov 11
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, 2006 at 5:38am
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No i dont hate microsoft at all, think they do some great stuff, also, to those of you who think i was whining about pc not up to spec, i wasnt, my pc is beyond the spec required, my gripe is that the product was released before it should have been (check the ms newsgroups about probs that were not picked up in beta testing) as for research i have trawled and trawled to find a solution to install error 1772/1605 (apparently it is also driving the guys at Aces mad as well), so in your infinate wisdom, if you know where it can be found, then please enlighten. Like i said earlier, why dont you share your positive experiences with others.
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Nov 11
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, 2006 at 6:56am
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Thank goodness you don' t have to "tweek" software from Adobe, Macromedia, Corel, Bryce, Xara, Swishmax, Jasc, etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc to get it to run as advertised right out of the box.
My system met the minimum system requirement. Same as it does for all the above software companies.
Maybe this site should be renamed from Simviation to Tweekviation.
According to what I am reading here, it is ok for a company to rip you off because (1) they are successful, (2) that is just a sound businiss policy and (3) it is a free market. Ok, if you say so. Afterall, you are the master tweekers. As for me, I'll stick with software that I don't have to tweek.
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Nov 11
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, 2006 at 7:37am
Nick N
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Thank goodness you don' t have to "tweek" software from Adobe, Macromedia, Corel, Bryce, Xara, Swishmax, Jasc, etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc to get it to run as advertised right out of the box.
My system met the minimum system requirement. Same as it does for all the above software companies.
Maybe this site should be renamed from Simviation to Tweekviation.
According to what I am reading here, it is ok for a company to rip you off because (1) they are successful, (2) that is just a sound businiss policy and (3) it is a free market. Ok, if you say so. Afterall, you are the master tweekers. As for me, I'll stick with software that I don't have to tweek.
If your not running a dual Xeon processor, Conroe, a server type motherboard with 8 gigs of memory and a 5 drive RAID-0 SCSI array, you have absolutely no clue how fast Adobe Premiere is SUPPOSE to run for it to work at a level a pro or anyone who demands performance out of a video editing system needs
You totally have your right to your opinion however if you want anything out of MSFS that comes even close to performance you better learn what the words 'minimum hardware recommendations' means
It means you get the MINIMUM SOFTWARE PERFORMANCE
Adobe Support would laugh you off the phone if you called them up and told them your system did not seem fast enough encoding frames with their software and your system slowed to a grinding hault
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Nov 11
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, 2006 at 9:00am
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Here we go again...
It's not Microsoft's fault your computer couldn't handle FSX...
HERE we go again. Are you a politician by any chance? You take an argument and put it on its head to protect your point of view, you MUST enter politics.
"It's not my fault I put you under my car while you were crossing. It's YOUR fault to not have cleared the road crossing fast enough, you pirla."
Continue thinking this way and you'll have a successful career in your government, wherever you're from.
There's but one real cure for human stupidity. It's called DEATH.&&&&At the moment mourning the assassination of sarcasm and irony for the good of the "higher".&&&&Proud FSIX user. Active user of FS98, X-plane and novice of Orbiter.&&&&Seen the GREAT service pack for FSX and its usefulness, really awaiting for FS11 to upgrade.&&&&AMD Athlon Xp 2400@2700&&MB Asus A7V8XX&&1Gb ram DDR 400 @ 333&&ASL Nvidia Geforce 6600gt 128Mb DDR3 AGP&&Creative Sound Blaster Live&&Windows XP Professional Sp2&&2 HD Maxtor 40Gb - 1 HD Maxtor 80Gb
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Nov 11
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, 2006 at 9:25am
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So it's Microsoft's fault that they decided to make the next installment of Flight Simulator too advanced for your computer?
As mentioned before, Alrot got his FSX running very smoothly on a second rate maching, and he's friggin from VENEZUELA. No one here from any highly developed westernized country have the right to say ANYTHING.
I'm sorry that you don't understand the "Minimum Requirements" terminology. But here are your options
1. Tweek PC
2. Upgrade PC
3. Both 1 and 2
4. Find a dunce corner, sit in it, bitch about how Microsoft made FSX too good, and casterate yourself and take yourself out of the gene pool in the process.
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