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Oct 7^th, 2006 at 10:32am

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This is just one way to improve the frame rates of FSX. If it doesn't work for you, then I'm pretty sure there is another way.

Click here for the tutorial

The tutorial was made by a friend in the FS2004.com forums who was also the one who did the experiment on converting the DDS textures back and forth to improve FPS. It seems to work wonders for most people. I haven't tried it yet because I don't have the beta and I'm NOT one of the lucky few who have the final version.

I hope the mods make this topic into a sticky so that others can see this. This guy has devoted so much of his time and effort into putting together this tutorial and sharing it with us all.

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Reply #1 - Oct 8^th, 2006 at 11:03am

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Thanks for the info Kat. Has anyone tried this? I was going to wait and see what others had to say about this before doing it, but no one is responding, so I'll try it myself. I'll keep you posted. Wink

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Reply #2 - Oct 8^th, 2006 at 11:41am

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I haven't tried it but DID convert a .dds file to various DXT formats -- none of which showed up in the FSX Preview Window

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Reply #3 - Oct 8^th, 2006 at 2:48pm

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I tried it. It did improve FPS slightly but all the autogen trees were upside down after conversion soooooooo I went back when someone figures out how to keep the trees rightside up I will try again till then I guess I have to live with single digit FPS

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Reply #4 - Oct 8^th, 2006 at 4:12pm

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It worked for me. I didn't notice any upside-down trees though. I have no idea what would cause that. My FPS improved a little, enough to be worth it.

This is exciting, my first tweek in the new sim! Grin

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Reply #5 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 12:35am

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Yep, the autogen trees went upside down for me too and then I switched the files back to .dds. Very odd... ???

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Reply #6 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 9:30am

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I tried it. It did improve FPS slightly but all the autogen trees were upside down after conversion soooooooo I went back when someone figures out how to keep the trees rightside up I will try again till then I guess I have to live with single digit FPS

That's because you only did half of the task. You are supposed to take the DXT1 textures and convert them back to .dds before using.

.dds textures are 'flipped' upside down, since that's the way they are sent to the video card (bottom-to-top scanning).

However, there's a much easier 'fix' for the autogen posted at http://avsim.com or http://flightsim.com that simply reduces the variety of trees used, and the variety of roofs used in any one scene.

Using these three replacement files has boosted my fps by more than 50% with autogen set to "NORMAL..." From a solid 20fps to a healthy 30+fps in congested areas such as Chicago, New York, etc.

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Reply #7 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 12:49pm

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I don't know how I missed it, but my trees are indeed upside down. Roll Eyes

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Thanks for the new tip n4gix.

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Reply #8 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 1:26pm

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Not sure I want this if I have to have a PHD in programming to get it running on my computer. I would think that as much money as microsoft makes, it should be the one to get it right before releasing it.

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Reply #9 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 1:32pm

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Not sure I want this if I have to have a PHD in programming to get it running on my computer. I would think that as much money as microsoft makes, it should be the one to get it right before releasing it.

I don't think Microsoft intended it as a mistake. If you notice closely in the tutorial, it's basically telling to reduce a DDS file from DXT5 to DXT1. As a result, the autogen textures will become less detailed and will render less features like the building reflections.

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Reply #10 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 1:54pm

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n4gix, could you maybe give a file name or direct link? I can't seem to find anything like that on either of those sites.

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Reply #11 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 3:15pm

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Using these three replacement files has boosted my fps by more than 50% with autogen set to "NORMAL..." From a solid 20fps to a healthy 30+fps in congested areas such as Chicago, New York, etc.

Fr. Bill...just curious as to your system specs.

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Reply #12 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 6:46pm

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Fr. Bill...just curious as to your system specs.

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Reply #13 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 8:55pm

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I can understand my laptop with P4 2.8GHZ, 512MB Ram, ATI Radeon 9700 64MB is only enough to get the sim running, but to actually enjoy it is a different matter.

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Reply #14 - Oct 9^th, 2006 at 9:04pm

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I think his is made from some dinky outfit called "Cray" ...

Hum....Cray. Must be a minor producer....... haven't seen their stuff at Circuit City or CompUSA. Are they sorta' like Dell? Grin

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Reply #15 - Oct 10^th, 2006 at 11:58am

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Fr. Bill...just curious as to your system specs.

Paul

My flightsim rig is a P4 3.2 GHz, 1GB DDR, with ATI Radeon X700 Pro PCIe, 256MB video card.

The link to the post at AVSIM is:

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=121&topic_id=354861&mesg...

« Last Edit: Oct 11^th, 2006 at 11:24am by Fr. Bill »

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Reply #16 - Oct 11^th, 2006 at 11:14am

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1MB DDR,

N4gix, I don't think you have enough to even run FS95. Grin

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Reply #17 - Oct 11^th, 2006 at 11:25am

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N4gix, I don't think you have enough to even run FS95. Grin

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I meant 1GB DDR, of course!

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Reply #18 - Oct 11^th, 2006 at 1:11pm

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I meant 1GB DDR, of course!

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Reply #19 - Oct 13^th, 2006 at 4:44am

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man the fps goes to a crawl on my pc! and i have a pc that can play FEAR on full settings!

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Reply #20 - Oct 13^th, 2006 at 8:14am

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man the fps goes to a crawl on my pc! and i have a pc that can play FEAR on full settings!

Same thing here my pc runs those type of game at fulle settings but with fsx it`s a full disaster.Also to whom tries to use this tutorial i must warn you, there are side effects to this fix as you can see from my thread here http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=FSX;action=display;num=116...

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Reply #21 - Oct 13^th, 2006 at 10:49am

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Same thing here my pc runs those type of game at fulle settings but with fsx it`s a full disaster.Also to whom tries to use this tutorial i must warn you, there are side effects to this fix as you can see from my thread here http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=FSX;action=display;num=116...

There's an alternate solution and you can find it in the "tips and tricks" sticky located above [read my last post there].

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Reply #22 - Nov 1^st, 2006 at 6:45pm

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I've been away from civilization for about three years, so when I got back to the world I just picked up a little 300 dollar machine to run FS9.
With no knowledge once so ever that fsx was coming out the following month, it was not a concern.
What I find interesting, after reading some of this thread, is that my celeron 3.2 gig, 1024mb ddr, Radeon xpress 200 integrated graphics machine seems to run faster than some others with pentium chips and PCIe cards (something faster than AGP was a shock in itself..).
Granted I only run at about 10 to 15 fps, but then again i've been used to single didgit FPS for most of the MSFS series.
Wonder what the difference is......

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Reply #23 - Nov 1^st, 2006 at 10:48pm

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If you have Nortons Or McAfees Antivirus, get rid of it, i Did and installed NOD32 ANTIVIRUS, picked up a Extra 5-8fps!!

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