Simviation Forum - NEW F16 for fsx.....a must see

Aug 27^th, 2006 at 12:23pm

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here is a link of screenies for the f16 that aerosoft is making.

http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=8608

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Reply #1 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 12:54pm

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CFS 4 did not take long then. Maybe I should go 3 hangers up the road and advise Aerosoft of the errors of their ways. From my computer I can see the office window concerned.

Matt

PS The F16 does look good though.

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Reply #2 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 1:15pm

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Whats this?

Combat capability in FSX? If so I can only think payware developers are getting some kind of advanced preferential favours which we, the sim community at large are not.

My understanding is that FSX is not a combat sim.

Therefore if Aerosoft are claiming combat capability with presumably missile lock in addition to cannon, then this suggests the sim core supports weapon profiling and effects. The official microsoft demo does NOT support these.

I wonder are we being hood-winked by microsoft, or are payware 'chancers' making false claims?

Besides which, I personally wouldn't pay money for an f16. Common as muck and not that good either.

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Reply #3 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 1:28pm

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REmember - FS-X supports certain missions and effects.

Even with FS-9 you can "simulate" all sorts of combat effects, etc., and given the right programming, you can, arguably, simulate missle "lock", etc.

Whether this is "true" combat simulation - as in the CFS series - remains to be seen. It may be more a matter of "if x is near y, effect z happens."

This, of course, is my personal take on the matter.

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Reply #4 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 1:44pm

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You may be right Felix.

However, there were categoric statements to the effect that FSX was not a combat sim, if if turns out to be some kind of 'psuedo-combat' sim then your theory would hold up.

I guess we shall have to wait and see.

Although the more I look at the demo, the more I get put off the idea of buying.

No offence, but it is a bit too 'american' for my taste. I don't like the big band intro music either, I find it too invasive.

In addition, it has a crap flight engine just like it's predecessor. In-fact I reckon it's one and the same.

First? addon for FSX happens to be an f16, and they want money for it.

What's wrong with a MkI Spit or an Ef2000 typhoon?

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Reply #5 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 1:58pm

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Well...

Thats new...

wonder how they gonna do the weapons thing.

They say the whole combat thing so easily, is it gonna be easy for addon freeware addon devs too?

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Reply #6 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 2:02pm

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well its true. It states that , if a buddy has this same aircraft , you will be able to shoot them outa the sky. Also, its limited to dog fighting ( guns - and missle) ....so thoughs are some things to consider.

I see alot of doughbtful minds and just want to clear it up , that you WILL be able to shoot your buddys out of the sky, as long as there an aerosoft f16

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Reply #7 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 2:16pm

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Yah, sure, make it absolutely clear that our beloved Flight Simulator is undergoing a conversion (even if it is minor) into a combat sim. Cry

Well, I wouldn't mind an F-22 or F-14 having weapons as much as I would the F-16 (cuz i like the f-22 n' f-14).

I just wish they would put in carrier landings and thrust vectoring! Angry

Huh ACES? Is that too much to ask??? Angry

I'm sorry, breakin' down there a bit. Roll Eyes

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Reply #8 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 2:35pm

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no worry there buddy. Alphasim and another company are working on an f/a18 super hornet that has a full , real deal weapons system and it is supposed to be fly by wire...they are talking of it and that may just be the first fly by wire ( payware ) aircraft......... here is the forum

http://www.alphasim3.com/forums/index.php?topic=20.0 ; once again....lol, enjoy.....oh you you f14 lovers...heres your time to shine.

http://www.irissimulations.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=9

your welcome all, droooolllllll it up

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Reply #9 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 2:43pm

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Doesn't sound much like a 'combat' sim to me if the only people you can shoot down are all your buddies flying the same aircraft

I would have thought they'd have been on your own side .......... then again, I am a bit old fashioned like that Roll Eyes

Just goes to show - takes all sorts and we're all different - I just read the stuff about the F18 'with the most amazing VC' that those guys were raving about and personally I found it all a big YAAAAAWWWWWWN ???

But there ya go... I'll bet a few of you fast jet freaks are queuing up already with your $49.95 in your hot little hands eh Wink

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Reply #10 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 2:49pm

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... ma ma ... Shocked

I've found a new love for F-18s (not really, i've always liked them a bit), but now its beautiful. So goooooood.... Cheesy

Drooling severely.. Tongue

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Reply #11 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 2:51pm

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Drooling severely.. Tongue

See........................what did I tell ya Shocked

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Reply #12 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 2:58pm

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Well, not much. I'm the type that drools over some payware thing, but doesn't actually buy it...

I stick to freeware. However. On occasion, I will consider buying something payware, provided that it is extremely high quality, and downloadable (cuz i don't like delivery much, unless its a full-fledged game/sim/etc.).

This could be that long awaited exception.
Too bad it isn't an f-14. Or Su-47 (or S. 37) Berkut.

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Reply #13 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 3:03pm

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Guys, weapons in a "so-called" civilian sim is nothing new. Remember the first few versions of FS? A few of them [if I remember correctly] had weapons effects. In my opinion, Microsoft seems to just bring back what was once taken away from the FS series. Besides, I don't see anyone in the X-Plane forums complaining about X-Plane's weapon capabilities.

Anyways, given how addons have and always will be altering the course of the FS series, it was inevitable that weapons capability would one day come back to FS. And who is to say that FS will always remain strictly a civilian sim forever? Again, the addons are most likely the reason why we see weapons in FSX.

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Reply #14 - Aug 27^th, 2006 at 3:51pm

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.....Doesn't sound much like a 'combat' sim to me if the only people you can shoot down are all your buddies flying the same aircraft ......

If that is the case I would have to agree.

However, I suspect that there is some kind of FSX support for weapons damage and weapons,etc and it can be incorporated into any aproprate FSX aircraft.

All that was said is the FSX is not a combat sim. This is true out of the box but, I suspect that some combat (dogfight) mods will be possible.
In fact, ACES has been somewhat vauge and advasive when asked about combat and FSX. Wink

From a marketing standpoint it could be a win-win situation: A dedicated civil sim for those who want it that also supports some combat via mods.

How about "Battle of Britton" mod?
How about a Battle of Midway" mod uilizing the new improved carrior support?
Much can be done with just "dogfight" support.

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