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Aug 10th, 2006 at 1:10am

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I think we should have one thread about our system specs and how the demo runs on it. It should be interesting. But since this demo isnt even the same build of what is currently being tweaked at ACES. Hopefully it gets better for those who had poor performance. and not worse for those with good performance this time  Roll Eyes

Anyways, just list what you have and what you got and score it from 1 to 10 (1 being from nothing better than FS9 and 10 being revolutionary)
have fun guys!
 

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Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 1:17am
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WHEN YOU RUN THE DEMO... DO NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO SETTINGS OR EXIT THE FULL SCREEN... STAY IN THE FLIGHT. IF YOU EXIT THE SCREEN OR MAKE SETTINGS CHANGES THERE WILL BE ERRORS....


the sim is not 100% and it was designed to be that way for a NAG

You must exitr the sim and start over to make settings changes..

 
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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 1:31am

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WHEN YOU RUN THE DEMO... DO NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO SETTINGS OR EXIT THE FULL SCREEN... STAY IN THE FLIGHT. IF YOU EXIT THE SCREEN OR MAKE SETTINGS CHANGES THERE WILL BE ERRORS....


the sim is not 100% and it was designed to be that way for a NAG

You must exitr the sim and start over to make settings changes..



I beg to differ. I have made all sort of changes to the demo "while" flying around the island and I have not experienced any problems other than the 30-minute time limit.
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 1:38am

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I had verry few problems, the water and textures dissapeared occasionally with flower bombing. But its a demo of a beta, for that its very nice  Grin

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I set cars to full, and some other traffic, water was bleh for me, but i saw birds, and smooth moveing traffic. I got 12 - 15 FPS aircraft looked nice. I wasnt as impressed with the in game itself but it has been said its a demo, so i will expect more with the full version. Now what i WAS impressed with is the options you get with the game. All the views, and scenery settings. If you look through the control options its AMAZING. All the options for aircraft are stunning. There was APU, Pressurization, No Smoking and Seatbelt controls. Its going to allow a lot of options for future developers. I cant wait.

Too bad there was a time limit and the scenery wasnt fully there yet (though what i saw, i liked  Grin )
 

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Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 2:04am

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has anyone managed to get the ground crew and service to work yet? i tried taxiing to the gate with ATC but that didnt work. engine shut off didnt work either. possibly it needs a "real" gate for it to work hehe. or just it wasnt incorporated into this build. but i like how the CRJ handles. so there is improvment in flight dynamics. it landed as smooth as a babys bottom smooth. which i watched in the replay. hehe.
 

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Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 2:31am
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Radeon X850 XT PE.

Maxed out, minus ground shadows, mesh resolution, texture resolution and AI.

Runs awsome.

What really gets me, is that there is no stutters compared to fs2004. If I turn down the settings so it looks like fs2004, it will run ALLOT better IMO.

Can't wait for the even more optimized full version and see how that runs.
 
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Reply #6 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 2:33am

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Well, there's just an island and no AI (or is there some ?) It's not surprising, there's just very few stuff to load, so no stutters Smiley
 
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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 2:37am
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Well, there's just an island and no AI (or is there some ?) It's not surprising, there's just very few stuff to load, so no stutters Smiley

Yep. But try and get them graphics in fs9 by installing tons of mods, and you'll be lucky to get 5fps.
 
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Reply #8 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 3:09am
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I beg to differ. I have made all sort of changes to the demo "while" flying around the island and I have not experienced any problems other than the 30-minute time limit.


I really should not have gotten involved with all this but I like to have fun as well from time to time. I’m just letting you guys know things that you may not be aware of otherwise. When they designed the demo they did it with allot of things in mind, most of which involves security and marketing. Security in not allowing too much to be released too soon and marketing so people don’t get happy with the demo and delay buying the full product.

They removed some of the elements that have to do with stability knowing many video adapters would respond to the missing software. Some will not see the difference and others will notice everything from strange visuals to lags. It depends on how high the settings are and a few other elements. If you don’t notice anything, that just peachy-keen but you may very well see allot of posts over the next few days that are laced with complaints. It is not a beta software issue.. it is a design issue because the final product does not display any of the problems you may see posted.

I’m going to let this subject go now. I have actually said more than I should have.

You will like the final version. I have been working with it for over 3 months and I can tell you the demo is garbage compared to the final product. I don't post in threads just to toot my own horn. What I posted was based on first hand knowledge.


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Reply #9 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 4:51am
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Isn't revealing you're a tester breaking the Microsoft-beta tester agreement?
 
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Reply #10 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 5:03am
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Isn't revealing you're a tester breaking the Microsoft-beta tester agreement?



no, of course not... its not the CIA  Grin

only posting information and/or images that are considered confidential would be a violation.




 
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Reply #11 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 5:16am

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Reply #12 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 5:31am
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no, of course not... its not the CIA  Grin

only posting information and/or images that are considered confidential would be a violation.


Oh ok, sorry Wink
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Reply #13 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 5:42am

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Radeon X850 XT PE.


Whats your processor and ram?
 

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Reply #14 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 6:17am
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Whats your processor and ram?

Pentium 4 650
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Ran like poopoo.

Really? I'd of expected that to run good.
 
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Reply #15 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 6:29am

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One quick question Roll Eyes

Is it worth downloading??

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Will I have playable framerates ???
 

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Reply #16 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 6:34am

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I get good playeble frames from 8 (spot plane view looking at land) to 15 where i locked it.
 
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Reply #17 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 7:58am
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Low-mid settings. Getting around 12-15fps at 15fps lock. Will go up to about 20 every now and then, if I don't lock.

Turns out I can get 20 almost constantly, with my display settings looking pretty nice. As good as FS9 at least, with no real blurry textures.
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Reply #18 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 8:01am

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OK initial impressions:
- Music is annoying... will change it to something else when i have the retail version
- AA Switch overrides my card settings even when they are on 'forced 4x'
- Settings finally say what they do instead of stupid digits
- Far better view controls (you can select the closest AI machines)
- Direction sensitive sound effects. Front of Beaver -> only prop, rear of Beaver -> prominent exhaust sounds

Performance: 20fps steady with all but weather on high and traffic maxed. Terrain mesh and autogen do have a huge impact on FPS, but i assume that overall performance will be better in the release version
 

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Reply #19 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 9:29am

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run smoothly with default setting but look like FS2002, when playing with setting I have a "good" looking sim, but it's mainly due to the water effect.
As said before, increase terrain mesh, scenery complexity or autogen have a HUGE impact on FPS.
At the last time I had scenery set to dense, autogen to normal, terrain mesh complexity to 70ish and the framerate was not hitting 10...
going to give it another go...

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Reply #20 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 10:03am
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See specs in sig

Runs pretty well at mid settings, I am going to tweek them a bit later.  I was getting 15-30 or so most of the time.  I noticed that clouds are still killers, so either they didnt optimize them for the demo or they havent fixed that stupid little problem
 
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Reply #21 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 10:15am

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Reply #22 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 10:17am

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no, of course not... its not the CIA  Grin

only posting information and/or images that are considered confidential would be a violation.


That is not correct.  Please check with Mike Z., Mike Gilbert or Hal Bryan for confirmation.
 

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Reply #23 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 11:05am
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That is not correct.  Please check with Mike Z., Mike Gilbert or Hal Bryan for confirmation.




There is no need for clarification or confirmation. Although part of my contract includes an MS-NDA my contract is not with MS directly... there is nothing in it that states revealing that I test is a violation, only details to such projects. However after consideration of the issue and the nature of the subject I have decided to not participate in the forum fun.  

Thank you for your assessment.

EDIT: I 'm heading toward Redmond this morning and I will make sure I address the matter at some point today. I doubt there would be more than a chuckle about it since nothing I posted violates any agreements however I will make sure your concerns are addressed and clarified.

 
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Reply #24 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 11:16am
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However I will help this person as a last post on the matter....

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OK initial impressions:
- Music is annoying... will change it to something else when i have the retail version



Open the FSx,cfg and change the following entry:

AmbientUI=1 to AmbientUI=0

You will find the FSx.cfg in the same place as the FS9.cfg, just one folder down.


C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR ACCOUNT NAME\Application Data\Microsoft\FSXDemo
 
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Reply #25 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 11:25am

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However I will help this person as a last post on the matter....



Open the FSx,cfg and change the following entry:

AmbientUI=1 to AmbientUI=0

You will find the FSx.cfg in the same place as the FS9.cfg, just one folder down.


C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR ACCOUNT NAME\Application Data\Microsoft\FSXDemo

Just unclick it in settings and save.

Anyway:
P4 2.3
1 Gig
256mb

All maxed except weather set to low. Low-ish frame rate but acceptable. A little tweaking needed.
Air Traffic brilliant. Co-Pilot on the approach mission very good, lets you get on with the flying.

Looking forward to the real deal.

Matt

PS anyone working on the 30 mimute limit yet??
 

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Reply #26 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 11:35am
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Just unclick it in settings and save.




yep, that will work too.. I am accustomed to making quick edits in the FSx.cfg file so in case he can’t find the setting in the sim that method is now available.  Grin
 
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Reply #27 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 11:40am

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I am accustomed to making quick edits in the FSx.cfg file Grin


Got one for the 30 minute limit Grin

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Reply #28 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 11:48am

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I dunno, when I'm flying over the sea or something the fps stays at a healthy 20. But as soon as I get anywhere near an airport and when I'm about to land/take off, the fps drops to 8-9 per sec. Is this how it is for everyone else? I sure hope it will be fixed in the retail version.
 
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Reply #29 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 11:51am

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Really? I'd of expected that to run good.


It depends how you look at it.


Mid settings- Doesn't really look "much" better than FS9, runs smoothly at 25 FPS.

Low settings- Looks like shit, but runs how I like it - 30+ FPS.

Maxed out- Awesome looking!! 10 FPS in airport- and island area. Over sea, 25 FPS.



I'm pretty happy with it, I guess I was just expecting too much yesterday, and I got really disappointed.
 

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Reply #30 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 11:52am
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Got one for the 30 minute limit Grin

Matt



now THAT WILL get me in trouble...  Lips Sealed

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Reply #31 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 12:16pm
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It depends how you look at it.


Mid settings- Doesn't really look "much" better than FS9, runs smoothly at 25 FPS.

Low settings- Looks like shit, but runs how I like it - 30+ FPS.

Maxed out- Awesome looking!! 10 FPS in airport- and island area. Over sea, 25 FPS.



I'm pretty happy with it, I guess I was just expecting too much yesterday, and I got really disappointed.


I can tell you, that is not bad at all. Don't be disappointed with that.
 
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Reply #32 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 12:45pm
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You guys need to keep the frame lock at 22-24FPS unless your running 7900GTX or SLI/Crossfire

Running that frame lock on unlimited or 30 frames with what FSX considers 'medium-low" hardware will never get you anywhere.

FSX needs SLI/crossfire and a dual processor to max the sliders, especially resolution, and still have resources for smooth flight.

There are similar optimizing tricks for FSX as FS9 but there are changes to how those are made. AS time goes on all of that will come out.

Its just a demo and designed to have some quarks so dont rate FSX based on the demo.


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Reply #33 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 1:19pm

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Average framerate, with low settings (blurry textures, 76m mesh, very "un-detailed" water etc):: 6FPS

With water (slightly) detailed: 2-3FPS

With my preferred settings, I'd probably get -5FPS Grin

Not to worry, I knew my PC would handle FS exactly like this. Time to get a WAY better graphics card methinks. Cheesy
 

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Reply #34 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 1:30pm

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with everything at about 90% or high i was getting 24fps over the water and between 8-13fps over land, which is kinda crap so i dont think ill be buying the full version.
 
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Reply #35 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 1:34pm

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flight sim stuck at 83%... ready to fight it  Angry

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Reply #36 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 3:46pm

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Ran pretty good. Kinda like FS2004. Had everything at high. Got around 20FPS.
 

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Reply #37 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 3:48pm

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It depends how you look at it.


Mid settings- Doesn't really look "much" better than FS9, runs smoothly at 25 FPS.

Low settings- Looks like shit, but runs how I like it - 30+ FPS.

Maxed out- Awesome looking!! 10 FPS in airport- and island area. Over sea, 25 FPS.



I'm pretty happy with it, I guess I was just expecting too much yesterday, and I got really disappointed.


Not that bad...so I should expect half or so of everything...as I have 1GB of RAM whereas you have 2... Wink
 
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Reply #38 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 4:23pm

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everything med/high

around 17-22fps

although terrain textures more than 1mile away (roughly) look REALLY bad or if your flying quite fast they get really blurry. does this happen to anyone else or is it just my hardware?

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Reply #39 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 4:29pm

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When i have the settings maxed ill get 16-20 but after the initial load no new scenery will sharpen just stays blurry.
 
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Reply #40 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 4:31pm

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must just be a problem in the demo itself then...hopefully theey'll fix it up for the real release.
 

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Reply #41 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 4:46pm

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I´m gonna wait until official release.Reading all the posts about the Testversion convinced me to do so.And firstoffall i have to get a better Videocard of course.
 

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it looked good to me. Even added a few planes to see what it looked like. Frame rates were as good or better that fs2004. I tried thr 737 experiance AA Astro jet. almost had a clear "see through" look to it. Tried the B-36H. Looked great sounded better, but runway was not long enough to take off(duh!). Gave the b747 sound and a panel and it flies great. Got my $70 saved up!
 

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Reply #43 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 4:56pm

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What folder are you guys putting the aircraft in? idont see an AC folder...
 
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Reply #44 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 5:09pm

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C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X Demo\SimObjects
 

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Reply #45 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 5:18pm

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Reply #46 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 5:58pm

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HERE ITS WHY IM SO SURE

REQUIREMENTS

Processor: 1.0 Ghz
I will always overload my procesor Getting 1.2 I bet any athlon (not 64) of 2gb wich I already done docens of time my oldie pc works much better even right now Im fixing one inm my workshop,when I compile anything my pc does faster than any celeron or Athlon

RAM: Windows XP SP2 - 256MB
I can set more dimm getting 450mb Max
, Windows Vista – 512MB
Hard Drive: 14GB
I have 200

Video Card: 32MB DirectX 9 compatible
Other: DX9 hardware compatibility and audio board with speakers and/or headphones
Online/Multiplayer Requirements: 56.6 kbps or better for online play

Im so sure Ill bet you Tomorrow Ill post some shot!!

Roll Eyesahhh 24% Roll Eyes

 

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Reply #47 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 6:55pm

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HERE ITS WHY IM SO SURE

REQUIREMENTS

Processor: 1.0 Ghz
I will always overload my procesor Getting 1.2 I bet any athlon (not 64) of 2gb wich I already done docens of time my oldie pc works much better even right now Im fixing one inm my workshop,when I compile anything my pc does faster than any celeron or Athlon

RAM: Windows XP SP2 - 256MB
I can set more dimm getting 450mb Max
, Windows Vista – 512MB
Hard Drive: 14GB
I have 200

Video Card: 32MB DirectX 9 compatible
Other: DX9 hardware compatibility and audio board with speakers and/or headphones
Online/Multiplayer Requirements: 56.6 kbps or better for online play

Im so sure Ill bet you Tomorrow Ill post some shot!!

Roll Eyesahhh 24% Roll Eyes



Nice. Then I don't have to update my comp. Well...I want to get a new one anyway Grin
 

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Reply #48 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 7:18pm

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today I tried using my IR4 tracker with the demo. It didnt work, hopefully its something that will be supported in the final release. something to add to the list of uncompatible things for the demo. keyword: demo  Wink
 

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Reply #49 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 7:26pm

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today I tried using my IR4 tracker with the demo. It didnt work, hopefully its something that will be supported in the final release. something to add to the list of uncompatible things for the demo. keyword: demo  Wink


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Reply #50 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 7:37pm

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Reply #51 - Aug 10th, 2006 at 7:41pm

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This should be a good place to post my quick review of FSX.

I posted this up on another board I'm on where I fly with buddies in FS9 quite regularly, so I thought I would share it here.

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Ok, I had a chance to play with FSX a bit more. My first assumption wasn't that great, but after playing around a bit I have to say FSX should be really nice once the final version is released.


To get a good feel in the differences between FS9 and FSX I installed my Aerial Foundry CF-188 Hornets into the FSX directory.

The FS9 aircraft worked almost flawlessly in FSX, I had a few issues with some gauges and effects, but to be fair I'm certain I didn't install all the necessary files needed. No biggie, all I wanted was the aircraft anyhow.


First off FSX is layed out alot like FS9. The aircraft selection menu is a bit different, and the graphics settings menus are a bit different also.

The Aircraft selection menu seems like it might be a bit harder to navigate than FS9, but  once used to it it should be fine.

The graphics settings menu seems a bit easier to navigate than FS9, and a few extra settings to control are present.

One thing I noticed about browsing through the menus is that I was able to move between menus, and aircrafts without that slight hesitation that FS9 exibts. In FSX navigating the menus goes alot smoother.

I set the display settings to about medium on all settings to start with and went flying.


So next I'll tell how I felt the FS9 aircraft flew in FSX as I'm sure alot of people were concerend about that.

I fly the AF CF-188 alot on FS9, and have a good feel for the plane.
First off there was no VC in the Hornet, no biggie right now, in time there will be work arounds for this.

All animations worked on the aircraft as they should. Apon takeoff the Hornet bit into the air as I expected, but seemed to need a little more airspeed before lift off. I  then immediately noticed how much smoother the aircraft was to fly. The pitch and roll actions were not so violent as in FS9. While these actions were smoother, I didn't notices and slowness in control surface response.

Next I played with elevator trim. WOW what a difference! In FS9 the AF Hornets are hard to trim properly, it's either too much trim, or not enough. In FSX there felt to be a finer amount of trim movement. While I had to operate the trim controls a little more, I was easily able to trim the plane out at any given speed. Very nice.

The autopilot worked as it should, along with the GPS.

After flying around a bit I went for a landing in my usual landing configuration.  I had to carry a little more airspeed to maintain a proper glideslope than FS9. Not much, maybe 10 knots or so more.

Touch down was really smooth I though, a softer landing than in FS9.


I was quite happy with how the FS9 aircraft flew. I was surprised that there was an immediate and noticable difference in flight characteristics, but it is a change for the better IMO.


After I was in the air for a bit I started to play with the graphics settings. I was able to get most of the settings up to at least 3/4 on the slider bars for all settings, some I had turned up to maximum before the sim ended.

The sim ran smoothly like this and I was able to meet the maximum target frame rate which I set to 35. I was surprised after reading about people getting horrible frame rates on different flight sim boards last night.

I was able to run higher settings in FSX and get better frame rates than FS9 with lower settings. The whole sim ran smoother than FS9.

The aircraft looked much more crisp in FSX than it does in FS9, and the color was a bit darker than it is in FS9.

One thing I really liked is the smooth panning while in exterior view, no more jerky movements of FS9.

The scenery was pretty nice too.  Trees! wow, not those 2D trees that look like road signs in FS9. These trees almost look 3D and if I was a tree / nature buff I could have probably picked the different types of trees out.

The water looked alot better than FS9, the water seemed to have depth and the wave action looked pretty realistic.
While I couldn't achieve the water effects of the Microsoft official screen shots, I was pretty impressed with the water. After all I'm not running the sim on the high end hardware Microsoft does.
I didn't get chance to really turn up the water settings to max before the sim ended, and I was flying in a fighter at 450 knots across the water.

The buildings, and objects such as cruise ships etc. were more crisp and alot more detailed than FS9.

The actual ground scenery ( grass dirt etc ) didn't seem any different than FS9 to me though.

The sky and cloud textures were quite a bit better than FS9, but didn't have the quality of some payware sky enhancements for FS9. I use Active Sky 6 in FS9, and FSX doesn't seem to be able to match that.


I did come across some glitchs while flying. One was random clipping of the sound which was easily fixed by turning the sound off and on ( pressing the Q key ).

I also experianced a shadowed terrain view when switching from external view to panel view. Cycling the views again, or panning to either side in the cockpit and back fixed it though.
To be honest, I was using a FS9 aircraft and sound file, so that may be have contributing those issues.

At this point the time limit expired and I didn't get to play with it anymore- Yet.

Overall I was impressed.

- The aircraft was easy to install, I just copied the aircraft folder from the FS9 directory and put it into the SimObjects/airplanes folder of FSX.
FSX has a Gauges and Effects folder just like FS9, and for the most part the FSX directory looks like FS9's.

- The aircraft flew well and handled better than in FS9.

- The sim ran impressively well with high settings on my machine, better than FS9 at similiar settings. We'll see once the full version comes out with the full global scenery whether there will be an impact in sim smoothness.

- The menus are easy to navigate.

- Graphics overall are quite a bit better than FS9.

FSX seems to have alot of potential, I think it will be a great next step from FS9.


I should post my machine specs for those interested.

It is not a powerful rig, probably mid line nowadays.

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Reply #52 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 12:37am
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HERE ITS WHY IM SO SURE

REQUIREMENTS

Processor: 1.0 Ghz
I will always overload my procesor Getting 1.2 I bet any athlon (not 64) of 2gb wich I already done docens of time my oldie pc works much better even right now Im fixing one inm my workshop,when I compile anything my pc does faster than any celeron or Athlon

RAM: Windows XP SP2 - 256MB
I can set more dimm getting 450mb Max
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Online/Multiplayer Requirements: 56.6 kbps or better for online play

Im so sure Ill bet you Tomorrow Ill post some shot!!

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Microsoft always posts extra-low requirements so more people buy the game. I have never seen a 32MB DX9 compatible card. It would run at those specs, at less than 1 fps.

So, how does this thing run high end systems?
 
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Reply #53 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 2:07am

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This should be a good place to post my quick review of FSX....

Quick...... riiiiighhhttt.
Read that in a jiffy.
By skipping over right after that line. Roll Eyes


On normal unchanged settings 6-11 FPS.
Note that FS deemed my hardware only capable of "Minimal" settings and a target lock of 12. Embarrassed

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Reply #54 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 3:55am

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I had some dramas at first, low FPS, but it turned out to be my FFB enabled was causing problems. I don't use it anyway.

It runs a lot better than I expected it would, 25fps with most sliders maxed, 56fps when it's backed off a bit.

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Reply #55 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 4:21am
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I had some dramas at first, low FPS, but it turned out to be my FFB enabled was causing problems. I don't use it anyway.

It runs a lot better than I expected it would, 25fps with most sliders maxed, 56fps when it's backed off a bit.



I was just going to post about your frame rate which did not make any sense since I can get 22-24 with dips to 15-18 (10 on hard load) on an x800xt and 35 with dips to 25 on an 7900GTX.. thats with all sliders maxed in scenery except resolution of the mesh and the textures. Mesh is @ 10m and  textures @ 60cm. Traffic @ 90 and small AI @ 50.. aircraft ultra high and weather ultra high.

I jack the mesh and texture resolution up on the 7900. That includes a few 'special tweaks' in the cfg file.


your 6FPS did not make any sense to me with your rig. From the FPS you posted I thought you were trying to run everything maxed to the hilt..  Wink
 
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Reply #56 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 4:38am

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Yes it scared me bad, fine now, and yeah, everything maxed and down on the ground in the buildings and trees it's around 13-15, but as soon as it's in the air it's 20+ so it's fine.

I'm impressed actually, can't wait for the product!   Smiley

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Reply #57 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 5:24am

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Everything maxed I was getting between 4 and 15FPS with Building Storms weather setting. Averaged around 20 with no weather. Ground textures were somewhat blurred although everything else loaded up beautifully. With tweaking it should be reasonable.
 

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Reply #58 - Aug 11th, 2006 at 6:11am
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Everything maxed I was getting between 4 and 15FPS with Building Storms weather setting. Averaged around 20 with no weather. Ground textures were somewhat blurred although everything else loaded up beautifully. With tweaking it should be reasonable.

The blurred ground is a bug. It only happens with Shaders 2.x water enabled.
 
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Reply #59 - Oct 4th, 2006 at 5:49pm
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On Medium-Low it will lock to 25fps. On High it is between 10 and 20 fps over land.

Also, I get this crap. If I change the display settings it goes away.

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Reply #60 - Oct 4th, 2006 at 6:44pm

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Are you getting better or worse fps /smoothness in FSX than with FS9 on the SAME machine with about the same level (in percent of its capability) of graphics and AI and all other such stuff running?

I have yet to even get really smooth stuff out of FS9 on my not TOO shabby machine  (see specs below) ...... so I can't IMAGINE this machine handling FSX at anything other than VERY reduced settings....... which is a "why bother" until I get a good hardware situation in place.

From my point of view...... when I buy "the package" I am buying it in order to run it with ALL the features enabled to their fullest extent.  I haven't been able to do that with FS9 yet.

I simply do not understand how perople with "minimal machines" are saying....oh yeah....it runs great on my machine.  Unless most of the stuff is turned off.

This baffled me on FS9 too.

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Reply #61 - Oct 4th, 2006 at 10:18pm
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I simply do not understand how perople with "minimal machines" are saying....oh yeah....it runs great on my machine.  Unless most of the stuff is turned off.


Technically if you get less than one frame per second the game still "runs." It just doesn't run very fast. Grin

Yeah, to get it running on a lower spec system with a decent frame rate you definately need to disable most of the options.
 
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Reply #62 - Oct 5th, 2006 at 2:13am
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Runs amazing! Far better than fs9 looksm while running smoooooooth.
 
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Reply #63 - Oct 5th, 2006 at 7:29am

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Have not tried FSX Demo,  waiting on preordered Deluxe Version.
FS 2004 with most all the addons available and sliders all maxed is awlsome.
I made a dual boot with Windows XP Home SP2 on both hard drives,  FS2004 is on one hard drive and FSX will be on the other................................................

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Reply #64 - Oct 5th, 2006 at 10:22pm
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Wow, great system. Let us know how it goes. Grin
 
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Reply #65 - Oct 6th, 2006 at 4:17am

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I sure will,
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Reply #66 - Oct 6th, 2006 at 6:17am

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Well I am disappointed to say the least.  Cry

I keep telling myself that its only a demo and the finished product will run like a dream. If Mr Gates expects me to go out and buy more hardware he can take a running jump, I will stick with FS9 and FSP, which I am perfectly happy with.

Without changing any settings and running the demo from scratch it was awful, blocky and unflyable in cockpit and spot view, after messing with sliders I turned the water effects to low and this (slightly) improved performance in cockpit view (landed ok) but spot view was still a complete disaster. turning up the scenery was a disaster too, all the animals and cars crap just drains the processor I wouldnt bother anyway. I had clear skies as weather so clouds sliders wouldnt have made a difference, though I would dread to think how that would have run!

Sorry guys I know this is not good news but hey its a demo and the finished product will be superb! Though I dont think I will buy it straight away, I think I will wait until some reports come through from individuals first.

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Reply #67 - Oct 6th, 2006 at 6:39am

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Well I am disappointed to say the least.  Cry

I keep telling myself that its only a demo and the finished product will run like a dream. If Mr Gates expects me to go out and buy more hardware he can take a running jump, I will stick with FS9 and FSP, which I am perfectly happy with.

Without changing any settings and running the demo from scratch it was awful, blocky and unflyable in cockpit and spot view, after messing with sliders I turned the water effects to low and this (slightly) improved performance in cockpit view (landed ok) but spot view was still a complete disaster. turning up the scenery was a disaster too, all the animals and cars crap just drains the processor I wouldnt bother anyway. I had clear skies as weather so clouds sliders wouldnt have made a difference, though I would dread to think how that would have run!

Sorry guys I know this is not good news but hey its a demo and the finished product will be superb! Though I dont think I will buy it straight away, I think I will wait until some reports come through from individuals first.

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Your graphic card is really poor, this is your problem.
Also your RAM is quite limited... CPU is OK.
But don't worry, it has been said many times that the demo performance is crap, and beta testers confirmed that the beta was much better.

The target performance is that FSX, if tunned down to look exactely like FS9, should run a little bit better than FS9. Since your config cannot even run FS9 at max settings, you cannot expect FSX to look good or run smooth, unfortunately.
 
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Reply #68 - Oct 6th, 2006 at 4:56pm
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Your graphic card is really poor, this is your problem.
Also your RAM is quite limited... CPU is OK.
But don't worry, it has been said many times that the demo performance is crap, and beta testers confirmed that the beta was much better.

The target performance is that FSX, if tunned down to look exactely like FS9, should run a little bit better than FS9. Since your config cannot even run FS9 at max settings, you cannot expect FSX to look good or run smooth, unfortunately.


That CPU is not OK for FSX.

It's like this with every release of Flight Simulator. Unless you have a top of the line PC, you won't get good frame rates. The only frame rate friendly release was FS2002.
 
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Reply #69 - Oct 7th, 2006 at 11:05am

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That CPU is not OK for FSX.

It's like this with every release of Flight Simulator. Unless you have a top of the line PC, you won't get good frame rates. The only frame rate friendly release was FS2002.


It is indeed.
For FS9, I could get good frame rates with a Pentium 1,7 GHz, and very good frames on a 2,4 GHz.
FSX is like FS9, graphics are the most ressources-heavy thing:
- autogen needs graphic power
- visual effects (water or self-shadows for example) need graphic power
- precise textures need graphic power

Things that are heavy on the CPU:
- AI traffic
- animated sceneries
- wildflife
- car traffic
- flight model

This is why I think so good framerates can be obtained with a Pentium 2,8GHz, as long as the graphic card is powerfull enough.
Very small CPU can of course be a preformance bottleneck for powerfull videocards, but a pentium 2,8GHz is not really a small CPU.
 
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