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Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:02am

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Hard to believe that 6 years ago today the Air France Concorde crashed killing everyone on board. The beginning of the end for supersonic passenger planes at this time Sad
 

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Reply #1 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:40am
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6 years already? Wow, time goes fast.

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Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 3:34am

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That's weird I haven't heard about it on the news Roll Eyes..... but I still remember it, it not only killed the passengers of the plane but also a few people living in the building on which it crashed didn't it? That's a shame that this beautiful bird got retired so soon, it was still a good plane Cry. And that just because of a stupid piece of metal lying on the runway Angry.
 

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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 1:22pm

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And that just because of a stupid piece of metal lying on the runway Angry.


Or a French maintenance error and an overloaded aircraft that took off with the wind and a flight engineer that shut down an engine without the pilots knowledge below the safe handling speed for two engines, depending on the story you believe of course

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Reply #4 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:24pm

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Or a French maintenance error and an overloaded aircraft that took off with the wind and a flight engineer that shut down an engine without the pilots knowledge below the safe handling speed for two engines



Whoa!  Is that a conspiracy theory or what was determined to be the fault?   Shocked
 

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Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:26pm

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I was pretty sure it was the piece of metal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1764029.stm

or for those liking reconstruction things
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/europe/2000/concorde_crash/slid...

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Reply #6 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 1:01am

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Whoa!  Is that a conspiracy theory or what was determined to be the fault?   Shocked



They are documented facts. Make of them what you will;

It was agreed between France and the UK that if any Concord crashed it would be a joint investigation, to a certain extent the French did honour this. The British crash investigating team inspected the undercarriage (they had been serviced during the night) and found that a vital spacer was missing from the "suspect" gear. It was found on the component servicing shelve in the French Concord hanger. Without this spacer, the gear would act like a shopping trolley wheel and at that speed shake its self to death.
Air traffic transcripts prove that the pilot elected to take off with a tail wind.
Baggage handling paperwork shows that Concord had approximately 1 ton of extra baggage onboard from an Air France flight that was delayed and the passengers put on another aircraft. Their baggage was to catch them up via concord.
Also refuelling paperwork shows that Concord had approximately 1 ton of extra fuel that was expected to be used during the taxi out and the first few seconds of the take off role, but the pilot, as shown by air traffic tapes elected to take off with the wind.
Cockpit voice recording shows that the flight engineer did shut down an engine without the say so of the captain and below the safe operating speed for three engines.
These are documented facts. Conspiracy theory, that is for the individual to decide, but Air France was about to be privatised and wanted investors..................
I mealy present, food for thought.


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