It surely sounds like a joke..

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1. Please check your spelling.
2. What site are you talking about? Please show us this site so that we can confirm it. If it's a forum like ours then the rumor may not be true anyways.
3. Read Below

Don't jump to conclussions conclusions without showing confirmation

If that were the case, then they would have started that with FS2002. They delayed the release date due to 9/11 and the involvement with the twin towers. If they were that concerned with it, they would have done the .cfg part along with that.

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Can you say you have flown a 777 in real life? They will never be perfect. If they did mod it for FS8, we would have heard about it. Even if they did for FSX, it's easy to change it! Don't wet your pants, folks.

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Check YOUR spelling!  Conclussions...conclusions

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...and have you used FSX yet?

How exactly do you make a non-professional flight simulator unrealistic anyway - reverse all the controls? A large proportion of its users wouldn't know the difference anyway...

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They aren't all that bad at all...

Lets be honest you cannnot learn to fly a jumbo from fs2004 it's just not all there, ok you can glide one into stuff like 9/11 if you kill the pilots and thats about it.

Ok, i have one more thing to say,

All i want form the flight dynamics in FS is to be able to do a cobra maneuver and be able to"hover" a Pitts/aerobatic plane.

Two things i haven't been able to do in FS yet.

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Did i say i could do that? No. I said i would like to do it.

If FS was capable of doing that, i could practice it and maybe get good at it.

You are correct in saying dont know how hard it is to create a game engine.

I have alot of respect for those who do create them.


I just saying those are things on my "wish list" for FSX or beyond.

I realise that it'll be a while till that is possible but, in my eyes, it is still possible.

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cool, thanks.

I will say i almost did a cobra, but then lost controll and for some reason started to go into a spin i couldn't recover from

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Exactly, and the FS series has never been about total realism, and I think a lot of us love that, cause that way we get all the other good stuff.. Nice graphics, loads of addons and variety, but we just don't realise we get this stuff at the compromise of other things, like what we're dicussing here; Flight Dynamics.

So naturally people want it all, but that's just not possible..

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"As real as it gets" ....

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Hah.... the "fine print" stuff looks more like a career as a lawyer  .


best,

.....................john

Lol

This one has made my week

Microsoft are THE experts when it comes to 'challenging' flight dynamics, I can assure you Microsoft flight dynamics never were, and never will be influenced by terrorists. I don't know where exactly that one started but it's a good one.

If there was any slight truth in the terrorist theory it would not be the dynamics being dumbed down, it would be the removal of GPS systems from the cockpits.

Jasper

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Yes I would agree.

However, the standard of MS dynamics has more to do with other factors such as what market they want to aim it at, and previously to help sales of their sidewinder stick etc, etc.

Fact is so far their dynamics have never been realistic.

Anyone in dissagreement should ask themselves: if their physics were transferred to the real world, would the aircraft be granted C of A ? I think not.

You have to remember their sim products thus far have been a compromise between a game and a sim in the true sense. This has caused monumental arguments between purists and gamers.

However even for purists MS sims are accessible, can anyone get into IL2 or x-plane and write good dynamics ? is there even an editior for these ?

At least with MS you can usually get in there and fix problems. Even CFS3 is starting to yield now, compared to what was said about it just a year ago.

I have to agree though, Microsoft's use of wording like 'simulator' and 'as real as it gets' does leave a lot to be desired.

The sim community has no base standard with which to judge these products. In my view the sooner this happens the better.

To be fair, we can only speculate as to what FSX will be like. You never know it might be a good sim, or it could be just be bloatware. We will just have to wait and see.

Jasper

I have a suggestion:  SHUT UP UNTIL YOU SEE FOR YOURSELF!

Unless you went to E3 and played FSX or you somehow have a copy of it, SHUT UP AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE NEVER EVEN PLAYED!

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Yah, I will... I'm gonna have to re-work the mighty su-27 but I can give you a copy of the air file, through PM.

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Don't just PM make a thread I'm sure lots of people want to see a cobra in FS.

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Im only saying that everyone seems to be just complaining about things that we wont know until we see the game.  The discussions are nice, but to say that the flight dynamics are unrealistic when you havent actually tried out the flight dynamics is pointless.  Im not trying to tell others what to do, i just find this whole 'the flight dynamics are unrealistic' debate to be kinda pointless when no one on these forums (to my knowledge) has actually experiencef firsthand what FSX flight dynamics are like

EDIT: And sorry that I sounded mean, just trying to knock some sense into everyone.  I understand all the debates over visuals, requirements, performance, but things like flight dynamics wont be known until the game is played

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"real as it gets"? Try flying a helicopter backwards and see what happens. I don't think that becoming a satellite in a helio is as real as it gets.

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Im not, they seem to have improved the heli flight dynamics at least.  But again, I dont know that, it could just be that the person flying it in the video is extremely talented

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What ? Aircraft realism menu adjustable ? Wow that sounds soooo arcadish to me....    Hey wait ! That thing is already in FS9.... so FS9 is just an arcade game for Playstation players, I have been fooled all that time, nooooooooooooo 
   

Seriously, I tend to agree with Jake, it's completely pointless to discuss about the flight dynamics of FSX, we can only make hypothesis, at best. And it's also pointless to complain about what is seen on the videos. Everyone here should remember that the realism has ALWAYS been adjustable from "as easy as it gets" to "as real as it can", with all the flaws and advantages we know from previous FS versions.

To be honnest, I on't know if the MS team had enough time to rebuild the whole FS physical engine. I would personnaly think that they just improved it, meaning that some issues will always be there and some may have been reduced or even eliminated, hopefully. And just like Jake said, only the previews made by real simmers (and not by 'Ace Combat' addicts like most of the articles) will tell for sure.