X-Plane has already implemented the realistic damage features such as blown tires, wings ripping off due to aircraft stress, etc. and yet no one has complained about it [until an idiot comes along and ruins it for everyone].

I totally agree we need damage to the effect of minor dents and scratches. So that we may try to land the plane as it would be in the real world. No more than a few sparks are needed here 

and ahh stupid poor Nemesis_5.4 only made it to 30 posts before realizing we was a total friggin idiot. 

As many people have said, it's not that we want to see massive explosions and buildings falling down or anything sick like that, its more along the lines of having realistic damage to a plane. For example, having part of your wing missing after hitting a tree and being allowed to carry on flying instead of the game freezing with you stopped in mid air.

If I remember rightly, we had this discussion before FS2004 came out too but it was more aimed at realistic emergency situations.

I think that crash damage would be ok to an extent but MS would have to stop things which could be interpreted as morbid or terrorist

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Yes, THAT would DEFINITELY be great    I hate this lack of precision that makes you crash in the air while you where trying to follow the terrain. I never understood the reason for those crashes...

As for the crash effect, I agree that destroyable buildings would not be very politically correct, not to say "shocking" for some persons. Such a feature would be just useless and misplaced.

BUT, I agree that what would be very usefull and would add a very great sense of realism, just like already stated in the past few posts, is an accurate damage model of the plane in case of:

- excessive stress: I would love the challenge of getting back to base with an airplane that has a missing engine, a missing part of wing or a missing rudder etc...

- mid-air (when formation flying) or scenery collision: oops that tree was to high (naaa I wasn't too low  ) and now one of my gear is not there anymore...

- violent landing, crash landing: I would love to see accurate damage to the aircraft in case of landing with no gears, on tarmac, mud, water, ice, snow etc... no just  an ON/OFF crash...

and there are surely plenty of other examples.
To say it clear, I think most of us are not interested in the effects of a crash on the scenery, but rather on the real effects of a "crash" on our own plane, that would be additionnal realism

Well well well...

I'm sure people have tried this before, but here I go.

in FS9, find the Cessna 208 in the 'aircraft' folder, and open the '.cfg' file.  add visual_damage=1 like this:

[fltsim.0]
title=Cessna 208 Caravan Amphibian
sim=Cessna208
visual_damage=1
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
etc...  (and to every other variation)

Now, open FS, and choose the caravan amphibian and fly in alaska (you can fly anywhere, but I like alaska).  Taxi off the runway, and completly off the airport.  find some autogen houses.  Use, the slew to make sure that ur wing (but not ur plane) will hit the building (also, you should lift the plane off the ground).  now, turn off slew....
You will notice that if ur FS automatically sets ur plane at the default cruise speed, the building will rip ur wing, right off!  If you put the simulator at half-speed or more, you'll see that ur remaing wing will have alot of lift, and tip ur plane.

I've only done this once, and managed to get both wings completley wiped off ( hilarious at the time, expecially in spot plane, cuz ur pilot just sits there, not even panicking ).  I think u can have sections ripped off, if the plane has the wings fold/unfold capabilities.

This doesn't help much with realism under damaged circumstances cuz the wing is either there, or nowhere.  Still funny tho!!!    

Crash effects, let's "accident effects" in FS9 are strange. I was recovering from a stall and was so low that i hit a tree!!
There it was with the screen frozen with a jet airliner balanced by one wing on the uppermost twig!!!!!!!!!!!! Not very realistic. I'm certainly not into massive explosions etc etc but some evident damage would be more real!!
Vololiberista

If you havent played the game Burnout ??? (for PS@ Xbox, etc.) then you really have to .  Burnout Revenge is the best.  When you crash, you can watch your car get crushed .  If a car hits you on your right side really hard, you get a huge dent, and you go flying .  Don't get this the wrong way, you can also smash and crush your way through the track (you also gotta dodge traffic) .

I'd like MS to get together with 'Critereon' and 'EA' to create aircraft mesh changes to make everything in FS more realistic.  That would be da' BOMB!     

Even if we can do stuff like that, we would have to rebuild, OURSELVES, the default aircraft, then build it with the damaged parts.  Not very convienient.

The problem here also is that, as I explained in my rip of your Cessna's wing thing, the wing is either there, or its not, visually and physically (in the game).

Even if we did make damaged parts, like for a wing, if the wing gets hit, and is replaced by the damaged wing (visually), FS still thinks the wing is (physically) gone.

The Best FS can probably do is have only the winglet ripped off, with the wing still on.  I highly doubt this tho.

Also, when you turn on visual damage, not even the landing gear (visually) comes off.

If you want to land your plane with the gear broken, and save countless lives, set your realism levels to 0.