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Feb 15th, 2006 at 7:42pm

avp_bluearmy   Offline
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Have you seen this in IMAX? or in the Military Channel called "Red October" ?

Well i am not doing it yet, i need lots of people for this.

Details:

Airport: Nellis AFB in Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Players: The most we can
Airplanes needed:

UH-60 Black hawk
A-10
F-15
F-16
(optional) F-18 Super Hornet

Game needed: FS9
When: Not yet announced
Host: Not yet anounced

What? How does it work?
Well one pilot is going to fly to a random location and land, yes in the dessert, he will say his last heading before "loose control"
2 teams, F-15 are for the good guys, F-16 for the bad guys. The killing of planes will be complicated, just try to imagine the bullets going and type BAM I got [inser name] and please, be legit. When shot go back about 20 miles, then back to action.
The A-10's search for the pilot at low altitudes
UH-60's pick up the downed pilot. To pick him up the downed pilot needs to change to a black hawk an dfly to the base.

Well hope people get interested!!!!  Grin
 

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Reply #1 - Feb 15th, 2006 at 9:46pm

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If you get it worked out, I'd be an F-16 aggressor pilot. Grin Wink

Good luck with this. Smiley
 

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Reply #2 - Feb 15th, 2006 at 9:48pm

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Reply #3 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 12:53am

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Sounds like fun. Cheesy
I can fly the A10 low-level (finally bush flying pays off) Wink
 

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Reply #4 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 3:51am

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OK just mock combat or can i join with a german MiG-29?
 

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Reply #5 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 3:55am

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Yea, why dont we take it F-15 VS. Mig-29?

since there are two great models of both..

And im gonna join that battle!!

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Reply #6 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 4:08am

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...Why does this idea remind me more of Combat Flight Simulator 2, (CFS2), with real bullets and bombs...
...rather that General Aviation Flight Simulator 2004 with no bullets and bombs....just passengers...?

...Wink...!

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Reply #7 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 5:20am
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...Why does this idea remind me more of Combat Flight Simulator 2, (CFS2), with real bullets and bombs...
...rather that General Aviation Flight Simulator 2004 with no bullets and bombs....just passengers...?


That's why I think we should have a CFS2 multiplayer session, too Wink
 
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Reply #8 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 6:18am

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That's why I think we should have a CFS2 multiplayer session, too Wink


Hi Tweek... Grin...!

All of the Lads who want to blast each other to pieces, load-up CFS2 Multiplayer already...Grin...!
It's generally arranged on the CFS2/3 Forums... 8)...!
...and it works very well...Grin...!

Most of the multiplayer crowd here use FS 2000/2002/2004 programs involving civilian, and non-warfare-active military aircraft, etc... Wink...!

Paul...an FS 2004 Tourist... Wink...!
 

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Reply #9 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 6:34am

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Most of the multiplayer crowd here use FS 2000/2002/2004 programs involving civilian, and non-warfare-active military aircraft, etc... Wink...!


Most, but with the  exception of the twenty or so pilots signed up for the Wargames... Smiley
 

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Reply #10 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 6:50am

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Most, but with the  exception of the twenty or so pilots signed up for the Wargames... Smiley


...with bullets and bombs...?
...using FS 2004....?

(Or Combat Flight Simulator)...?

Paul... Wink...!

Wargames...?
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Reply #11 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 11:41am

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Yea, why dont we take it F-15 VS. Mig-29?

since there are two great models of both..

And im gonna join that battle!!

Cheers Theis

F-15C vs 1st gen Su-30MKI
F-16 vs MiG-29
 

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Reply #12 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 11:53am

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Most, but with the  exception of the twenty or so pilots signed up for the Wargames... Smiley

The Wargames haven't actually happened yet, I still foresee many problems with actually scoring a 'kill'.

If you want to simulate combat flying it makes sense to use a combat flight simulater, ey?

It's still a nice concept, but I'd rather play a cold war stand-off scenario where both sides hunt for a downed aircraft and desperately try NOT to be the first to open fire.

Is there any way to prevent the red numbers appearing over the top of an aircraft, even if an unscrupulous player turns them on?

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Reply #13 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 1:10pm

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Yes you can turn them off, from the options then go to ATC... well who here wants to be the host, or tell me a good hosting site?
 

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Reply #14 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 1:55pm

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Yes you can turn them off, from the options then go to ATC...

Ah, but that only turns them off as far as you looking for other planes.  If someone else was looking for you, is there some way you can make your plane 'invisible' as far as the red letters are concerned?  Otherwise it's going to make finding a downed aircraft very easy as soon as someone gets within 10 miles of it.

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Reply #15 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 2:10pm
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Ah, but that only turns them off as far as you looking for other planes.  If someone else was looking for you, is there some way you can make your plane 'invisible' as far as the red letters are concerned?  Otherwise it's going to make finding a downed aircraft very easy as soon as someone gets within 10 miles of it.


One huge problem with that. How are we meant to tell who we've killed? Wink Can't really be shouting out "I've killed...someone!"!
 
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Reply #16 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 3:35pm

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I think this is an inherent problem which stems from using FS9 to do something it was never designed to do...

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Reply #17 - Feb 16th, 2006 at 7:59pm

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oh good point.... Oh man. Well i hope that people actually turn them off if there is no way for the host to do it.
This is going to proof the "loyalty" of other people, see what i mean?

Ok lets start a vote.
(just say YO or Yeah, or sometihng f you want it)

Should the good guys have:
F-15's "Eagle Fighter" , UH-60 "Black Hawk" , A-10 " Warthog" ???
Should the bad guys have:
Mig-29's, Black Hawk (so downed pilot doesnt know that he is being piked up by the bad guys in case) and a search plane, i like the A-10 since it can fly really low...

Ok after this voting thing, we discuss the start location...
 

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Reply #18 - Feb 17th, 2006 at 2:58am

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Bad boys: Mig-29 , Mi-24 Hind , SU-25

Well known russian planes..

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Reply #19 - Feb 17th, 2006 at 3:13am

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OK here are my suggestions.

For head-to-head
US/NATO:
F-15C (vs flanker)
F-16 A-D (vs fulcrum / F-16N)

Russia/Warsaw Pact
Su-27
MiG-29
F-16N (for anyone that doesnt have the MiG)

For low-level recon:
Add A-10 for NATO and Frogfoot for Russia.

And for the helicopter choice:
NATO should get Puma helo's, these do look a little more like a russian machine (Mi-8 / Mi-24)
Russia should use Mi-8MTV... the one with the big ammo racks on it, as the Mi-24 is NOT used as a evac helo unless there is no Mi-8 to do the job.
 

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Reply #20 - Feb 17th, 2006 at 8:24pm

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The rules are really similar to the WARGAMES, get at least 1/4 of a mile to an airplane, then count to 5 and type Kill USAF [insert name, please use numbers] and that airplane will have to land. They got 3 lives each. If the enemy moves and gets away from you for more than 5 seconds (goes away from your pannel, aka you have to move your head to look at him) you loose him and have to start again from 0.

USAF starts at Nellis, [insert enemy name] starts on othe rairport, discussed after the vote I called, check page number 1 for details...
 

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Reply #21 - Feb 18th, 2006 at 6:43am

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Since 1991 the 'other' side is called 'Krasnovian'
 

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Reply #22 - Feb 18th, 2006 at 4:23pm

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Quote:
OK here are my suggestions.

For head-to-head
US/NATO:
F-15C (vs flanker)
F-16 A-D (vs fulcrum / F-16N)

Russia/Warsaw Pact
Su-27
MiG-29
F-16N (for anyone that doesnt have the MiG)

For low-level recon:
Add A-10 for NATO and Frogfoot for Russia.

And for the helicopter choice:
NATO should get Puma helo's, these do look a little more like a russian machine (Mi-8 / Mi-24)
Russia should use Mi-8MTV... the one with the big ammo racks on it, as the Mi-24 is NOT used as a evac helo unless there is no Mi-8 to do the job.



Ok lets do it like that.
 

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Reply #23 - Feb 23rd, 2006 at 4:01pm

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i was thinking of almost the same thing...

ill try to be there, but i cant deside between the f-16 or the a-10...
 

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Reply #24 - Feb 23rd, 2006 at 4:03pm

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Ah, but that only turns them off as far as you looking for other planes.  If someone else was looking for you, is there some way you can make your plane 'invisible' as far as the red letters are concerned?  Otherwise it's going to make finding a downed aircraft very easy as soon as someone gets within 10 miles of it.


you can turn the letters off Cheesy
 

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Reply #25 - Feb 24th, 2006 at 1:06pm

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YES! Well, now we need to plan it. Who wants to give me a good hosting site, and set a time?
 

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