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FORD Trivia (Read 1629 times)
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Ok USA3000, I hate to tell you, but when it comes to silly stuff, chevy is better than ford (like interiors). My mustang is falling apart from the inside. the shifter only reads P and does not change when I move it towards me.
When You ignore the silly stuff, Ford is way better. Cameros were never origional, an only won Trans Am because they were driven by Rodger Penske drivers. Penske picks the crappy cars, but the best drivers (ex: IRL, Toyota, Sam Hornish and Helio Castroneves)
What year is that mustang? My mom has a 1994 Mustang convertible in mint condition. No body work or paint, never replaced nothing under the hood except your basic maintance (Water pump, hoses, fuel filter ect...) The convertible top has been replaced once but that was because it was broken in to & they cut the top. That may be because this particular mustang was just built right.
Don't get me wrong, my second car I got when I was 17, a 1995 Ford Contour & I had that car till late 18 & it fell apart in front of my eyes, the leather seats started to crack up, the timeing slipped, all the electical wires under the hood became dry rotted which exposed bare wire which shorted out the entire electical system. (Cost $1700$ if I was to repair it) The flywheel was all chewed up because a piece broke in the starter that held the drive gear which was connected to the bendix. Which made the drive gear slide back to the base of the starter. Which cause only the corner of the drive gear to make contact with the corner or the flywheel which chewed them both up. The CVC Axle was all rusted up, there was no grease on barring's. The transmission was leaking like 2 qt. every couple hours. 2 spark plug module's were completly fryed Therefore this V6 engine only could run of 4 spark plugs.
I am only 19 now, so all this happened in July. After that was when I bought my 2003 Ford Ranger.
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I wont even waste my time in the why, foreign cars are better debate. The list is too long. You want your pickups thats fine, generally we have no use for them here. But you want a decent sports car, you dont buy one thats american. You want a muscle car, then you do. But just remember sports car and muscle car are differant. I wouldn't seriously consider racing some muscle cars because although you may get to a corner first, the thing sure as hell isn't coming round it in first. Richie already knows i like some of these muscle cars, camaros and mustangs included. This debate is as pointless as airbus or boeing because 95% of the time its actually one country vs the other with no-one usually going over the facts and figures.
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I wont even waste my time in the why, foreign cars are better debate. The list is too long. You want your pickups thats fine, generally we have no use for them here. But you want a decent sports car, you dont buy one thats american. You want a muscle car, then you do. But just remember sports car and muscle car are differant. I wouldn't seriously consider racing some muscle cars because although you may get to a corner first, the thing sure as hell isn't coming round it in first. Richie already knows i like some of these muscle cars, camaros and mustangs included. This debate is as pointless as airbus or boeing because 95% of the time its actually one country vs the other with no-one usually going over the facts and figures.
You are right, it is one country vs. the other & this debate has gone on long enough..
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Dont get me wrong i like these cars but the arguments can never be completely unbiased. And in the end each car suits a purpose, if your in the US the corvette is a fine car, its good in a straight line, but generally with the winding roads of europe it wouldn't be the best choice. Thats why porsche, mercedes, BMW and Ferrari are big here. designed for the narrow winding roads.
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I rather dislike American cars, they just seem so crude. That's just me, though. Oh, and not to nag, but USA3000, your spelling is atrocious.
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Dont get me wrong i like these cars but the arguments can never be completely unbiased. And in the end each car suits a purpose, if your in the US the corvette is a fine car, its good in a straight line, but generally with the winding roads of europe it wouldn't be the best choice. Thats why porsche, mercedes, BMW and Ferrari are big here. designed for the narrow winding roads.
The funny thing is that this topic was started base on junt the 1967 Mustang Shelby GT500 & we got into a large debate on the cars of the world. I never expeted that when I started this topic
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the trademark of a good topic here, it never stays on topic
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I rather dislike American cars, they just seem so crude. That's just me, though. Oh, and not to nag, but USA3000, your spelling is atrocious.
EDIT: Sometimes......
What is exactly wrong with my spelling. If I ever did not spell something correctl I can guarantee that it was a simple typo.
Note: I may not always be grammatically correct because I really don't pay attention to that, I just focus on getting my point acrossed.
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Even though the conversation was about Sports Cars. I would like anybody to name a truck that can out torque the Ford F-550 Diesle Power Stroke 6 axle. Or even the F-350 Diesle Power Stroke 6 axle. Don't even try to mention a dodge or Chevy diesle 6 axle. I have had the first hand experence that dodge & chevy do not have the amount to the same amount of torque. (Dodge engine's makes alot of noise with little perfomance) I know that because in addition to my Ford Ranger I have a 1994 Dodge dakota & both trucks have a V6 and the dodge can not even compare. dodge cars have more power than a dodge truck.
srt-10 ram has 550 ft-lb, doesn't the ford diesel (is it a 7.3 or a 6.0?) make 570 ft-lb , or is it 540?
either way the 5.9L Turbo diesel in the dodge 2500 make 610 lb-ft
the gmc sierra 3500 also has a 605 ft-lb 6.6 L diesel
btw i am a blue oval guy (but not a die hard one, i am just playing devil's advocate)
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srt-10 ram has 550 ft-lb, doesn't the ford diesel (is it a 7.3 or a 6.0?) make 570 ft-lb , or is it 540?
It all depend's on the consumer. If I wanted a F-350 I can choose to get the F-350 6.0 V8 Turbo Diesel or I can Choose to get the 7.3 V10 Turbo Diesel. I know for a fact the towing power of the F-350 V8 Turbo Diesel Power Stroke, Can pull up to 15000 lbs, I know this cause a friend has one & pulled his moble home with his F-350 power stroke, I had some pix, but they were deleted by accident off my Camera. There is no doubt it my mind that the Ford F-350 V10 Turbo Diesel can pull at least 30000 lbs, besides the fact that the rear end of the truck can not support that much weight(Front wheels would pop up), The engine can with out a doubt pull it. No is we were talking about a bed mounted reese hitch, then you can set a trailor weighing in at 30000 lbs & the truck will not hesitate to pull it.
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My understanding is that the 7.3L diesel is a V8, not a V10. I don't know of a diesel V10 that has ever been built.
Also, the current motor in the Dodge Diesel pickups is supposed to be a much better motor than the current Ford diesel. First of all the Dodge motor is not a Dodge motor, it is a Cummins motor. Cummins has been building diesel motors forever-its really all they do. Their motors are commonly found in all the popular big rigs. Now, its not the same motor as in the large big rigs-but its the same technology. Cummins simply makes the best diesel motors. Dodge has a deal with them and thats where they get their motors for their trucks. Ford makes their own diesel motors and they simply aren't as good. They are a fine motor but they aren't a Cummins. These performance numbers are directly from the Dodge and Ford websites.
Now, both are very powerful but the 5.9L Cummins I6 engine makes 610ft/lbs of torque. The 6.0L Power Stroke V8 diesel in the Ford trucks make 570ft/lbs. I really doubt that makes a whole lot of difference because both are so low geared-they're pulling power is probably about equil (since they are in a competitive class) but the Cummins motor lasts a lot longer and is more reliable.
You are clearly a Ford guy so your probably never going to agree with me and thats OK. (I'm a Chevy guy and I've never agreed with Ford or Mopar guys)-thats just part of cars.
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What is exactly wrong with my spelling. If I ever did not spell something correctl I can guarantee that it was a simple typo.
Note: I may not always be grammatically correct because I really don't pay attention to that, I just focus on getting my point acrossed.
I noticed that they were simple mistakes after I posted that. Sorry.
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I noticed that they were simple mistakes after I posted that. Sorry.
Don't worry about it. Doesn't bother me none..
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Also, the current motor in the Dodge Diesel pickups is supposed to be a much better motor than the current Ford diesel. First of all the Dodge motor is not a Dodge motor, it is a Cummins motor. Cummins has been building diesel motors forever-its really all they do. Their motors are commonly found in all the popular big rigs. Now, its not the same motor as in the large big rigs-but its the same technology. Cummins simply makes the best diesel motors. Dodge has a deal with them and thats where they get their motors for their trucks. Ford makes their own diesel motors and they simply aren't as good. They are a fine motor but they aren't a Cummins. These performance numbers are directly from the Dodge and Ford websites.
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Now, both are very powerful but the 5.9L Cummins I6 engine makes 610ft/lbs of torque. The 6.0L Power Stroke V8 diesel in the Ford trucks make 570ft/lbs. I really doubt that makes a whole lot of difference because both are so low geared-they're pulling power is probably about equil (since they are in a competitive class) but the Cummins motor lasts a lot longer and is more reliable.
Actully all truck brands set to the side, Any diesel engine will out live a gas engine by several years. no matter who makes it.
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You are clearly a Ford guy so your probably never going to agree with me and thats OK. (I'm a Chevy guy and I've never agreed with Ford or Mopar guys)-thats just part of cars.
You read me like a book
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My understanding is that the 7.3L diesel is a V8, not a V10. I don't know of a diesel V10 that has ever been built.
The Ford F-350 V10 Turbo Diesel power stroke is only by special order so it certainly does exist. Also, because this particular truck is only availible by special order, there is absoulutly no performance specification's about this truck published. I think is is completly ludicrous to buy a F-350 V10 Power Stroke (Gas) Just sit back & think about it (Not just a F-350 but any V10 Truck) With the way gas prices are these days, a V10 truck gets probley 10 mi./gal of gas, (This figure is just a estimate of the top of my head from former statistics)
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Actully all truck brands set to the side, Any diesel engine will out live a gas engine by several years. no matter who makes it.
I know that, I have worked on several diesel engines. But, a Cummins will outlast many of the others-especially the diesel motors in other pickups. Its just that Cummins specializes in diesel motors and they are really good at making them. There are other companies that specialize in making diesel motors for big rigs as well but Cummins is the only one that has a deal to make pickup motors as well.
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The Ford F-350 V10 Turbo Diesel power stroke is only by special order so it certainly does exist. Also, because this particular truck is only availible by special order, there is absoulutly no performanse spec's about it published. I think is is completly ludicrous to buy a F-350 V10 Power Stroke (Gas) Just sit back & think about it (Not just a F-350 but any V10 Truck) With the way gas prices are these days, a V10 truck gets probley 10 mi./gal of gas, (This figure is just a estimate of the top of my head from former statistics)
I'm not disputing that the 7.3L Turbo Diesel exists-but all the one's that I can find are V8. Remember, the number of cylinders in a diesel engine doesn't neccessarily mean they are more powerful. Almost all diesel engines are 6 cylinder inline motors. They just have huge pistons and a long stroke to make big cubic inches (thats where all theirt torque comes from). If it is a V10 please show me a website that says so because I would be interested in reading about it.
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