Simviation Forum - First wet race?

Sep 8^th, 2005 at 1:01pm

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http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=33993
It could be. I hope so, it would make a nice change. I dont think it would help Ferrari all that much, Schumi might be the best wet weather driver since Senna but that Ferrari has no grip, something needed for the rain. Whereas mclaren and its setup could be even faster.

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Reply #1 - Sep 9^th, 2005 at 12:30am

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Yessssssss! I love Belgian rain
*flashbacks to 1998*

"Oh my, oh dear, this is quite appaling"

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Reply #2 - Sep 9^th, 2005 at 8:22am

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Yessssssss! I love Belgian rain
*flashbacks to 1998*

"Oh my, oh dear, this is quite appaling"

great race, and a prime example of what can happen when you drive blind.
the weekend has started out wet so good sign for some rain.

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Reply #3 - Sep 9^th, 2005 at 12:22pm

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well its official. F1 drivers are as soft as warm butter
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34004
if this turns out to be the case i seriously hope they all consider new careers.
I remember back when Nigel Mansell and Ayrton Senna raced in rain that created pools upto their ankles, they would still be side by side at 200mph, with safety being so much worse. soft, absolutley soft.

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Reply #4 - Sep 9^th, 2005 at 6:58pm

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Stop ranting, theres nothing you can do to change the fact that race car drivers value their life. If they didn't, they would be dead long ago

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Reply #5 - Sep 9^th, 2005 at 7:00pm

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Stop ranting, theres nothing you can do to change the fact that race car drivers value their life. If they didn't, they would be dead long ago

Thats a load of bull. These drivers like it easy. They do their best to avoid wet weather testing and it bites them in the ass. Jackie Stewart said it best, "the day of real men in racing is long gone"

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Reply #6 - Sep 9^th, 2005 at 9:20pm

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Jackie Stewart is not really the best example you could have provided. He vied for safety regs throughout his career, and didn't even drive his last race because his teammate was killed

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Reply #7 - Sep 10^th, 2005 at 5:32am

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Jackie Stewart is not really the best example you could have provided. He vied for safety regs throughout his career, and didn't even drive his last race because his teammate was killed

He is a very good example, his quest for safety aswell as his previous driving experience means he knows when it is too dangerous to race, and when the drivers are just scared.

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Reply #8 - Sep 11^th, 2005 at 9:57am

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Craigs right, not only do the drivers whinge more, they also have the safest cars & best medical facilities in the history of Formula 1 - not like the good old days.

Oh- & Jackie Stewart's quest for new safety regs began after he was nearly killed in an accident at Spa where there were inadequate medical facilities.
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Reply #9 - Sep 11^th, 2005 at 10:01am

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He was right, JPM found out today what happens when you dont put 100% into a race.

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Reply #10 - Sep 11^th, 2005 at 12:27pm

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Oh so Germany 1968 was not too dangerous to race?
That was a friggin disaster waiting to happen.

This race was not wet, more like damp.

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Reply #11 - Sep 11^th, 2005 at 1:15pm

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I don't understand what you mean by that duck?

Germany 1968 could've been a powerboat race because the rain was so bad, the tyres were no-where near as good as todays tyres & the medical facilities were next to non-existant (& drivers were paid a pittance) - but everybody raced.

By comparison, Spa 2005 was a walk in the park, with (as you said) a damp track, the wet weather (& intermediate) tyres are excellent these days & the medical back up is second to none(& drivers are paid a fortune) - & still they complain about racing there.

You can't compare the two.

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Reply #12 - Sep 11^th, 2005 at 2:20pm

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NVM. I had a good point, but its not a strong enough argument to argue it.

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