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Reply #15 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 11:32am

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Reply #16 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 2:36pm

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sorry but the corvette is not a good car. for what they cost, you buy a porsche, a real sports car.

not over here, the c6 vette is cheaper than the base 997, which it over powers. the carrera s is the best competition (performance wise) and it costs a lot more ($35,655 more!!)

even the base 997 costs over $22,000 more than the vette

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Reply #17 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 2:42pm

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it seems americans really do get screwed over when it comes to european sports cars.

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Reply #18 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 3:06pm

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My question seems too hard ? Wink

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Reply #19 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 3:12pm

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the ford escort RS?

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Reply #20 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 3:25pm

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Probably the 1968 Shelby Cobra Mustang GT-500 produced with the 428 cid V8 engine.

In mid-1968 Ford introduced the Cobra Jet engine option for the Mustang and Shelby naturally followed. The original 428 block in the Cobra GT-500 was replaced by a tuned Cobra Jet unit. It featured low-riser revised 427 cylinder heads with enormous rectangular ports, a special dual-plane intake manifold and a big four-barrel Holley carburetor. It was to become the ultimate Shelby and the new model was named Cobra GT-500KR, "King of the Road".

The GT-500KR was advertised with a 335 hp @ 5600 rpm rating for insurance reasons but in reality offered close to 400 hp. It powered this 1,451 kg car to a top speed exceeding 210 kph, but its most notable feature was a 0-100 mph (161 kph) acceleration in just 14.04 seconds, which is amazing. A regular, modern car would take that long to get to only 100 kph and the preceding Cobra GT-500 took 17.1 seconds for the same effort. The Cobra GT-500KR almost was like a drag-race car for the open road.

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Reply #21 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 4:06pm

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No offense but ford and exotic really dont go together in any sense of the word. Impressive yes, exotic no.

Depends where abouts in Dagenham it is Craig! Wink

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Reply #22 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 4:08pm

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sorry but a ford sierra with racing stripes isnt exotic. Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 10:08pm

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sorry but the corvette is not a good car. for what they cost, you buy a porsche, a real sports car.

no offense if you r not american, but I am american & is a porsche American? No. I won't touch a car if it is not american made. That is why a Chevy Corvette is better. (American Made "American Owned") Ford comes first, simply because Ford produced the very first vehical.

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Reply #24 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 10:14pm

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no offense if you r not american, but I am american & is a porsche American? No. I won't touch a car if it is not american made. That is why a Chevy Corvette is better. (American Made "American Owned")

Thats not neccessarily true-but I understand where your coming from. There are many foreign cars that are better for many things than domestic cars. I personally prefer American cars but they are in fact inferior in many ways. In my opinion, American performance cars are generally better simply because they generally have a lot more torque than their foreign counterparts. I have always loved American muscle cars and to be honest Ford is my least favorite of the big 3. But, I still prefer them over foreign cars for "fun" cars. For a daily driver, I honestly think there are better foreign cars than domestic cars.

Also, Ford didn't make the first vehicle. They made the first massed produced vehicle. Wink

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Reply #25 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 10:41pm

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Thats not neccessarily true-but I understand where your coming from. There are many foreign cars that are better for many things than domestic cars. I personally prefer American cars but they are in fact inferior in many ways. In my opinion, American performance cars are generally better simply because they generally have a lot more torque than their foreign counterparts. I have always loved American muscle cars and to be honest Ford is my least favorite of the big 3. But, I still prefer them over foreign cars for "fun" cars. For a daily driver, I honestly think there are better foreign cars than domestic cars.

Also, Ford didn't make the first vehicle. They made the first massed produced vehicle. Wink

Even though the conversation was about Sports Cars. I would like anybody to name a truck that can out torque the Ford F-550 Diesle Power Stroke 6 axle. Or even the F-350 Diesle Power Stroke 6 axle. Don't even try to mention a dodge or Chevy diesle 6 axle. I have had the first hand experence that dodge & chevy do not have the amount to the same amount of torque. (Dodge engine's makes alot of noise with little perfomance) I know that because in addition to my Ford Ranger I have a 1994 Dodge dakota & both trucks have a V6 and the dodge can not even compare. dodge cars have more power than a dodge truck.

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Reply #26 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 11:05pm

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I've never owned a Dodge truck, the only truck I have owned is a Ford and I like it. I said that American vehicles put out a ton more torque-that was one of the reasons I think American cars are better. The motor I'm currently putting in my Camaro has 450ft/lbs of torque.

Plus, a Ford F-550 really isn't a commonly owned truck by everyday people. Thats into the commercial stuff.

But, name a year where there was a more powerful factory Mustang produced than a Camaro. I really don't think your going to find one and if you do its only one or 2 years (maybve a couple of the 5.0L years). The only years that I know of is 1964-1966 and 2003-current because there was no Camaro in those years.

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Reply #27 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 11:14pm

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I've never owned a Dodge truck, the only truck I have owned is a Ford and I like it. I said that American vehicles put out a ton more torque-that was one of the reasons I think American cars are better. The motor I'm currently putting in my Camaro has 450ft/lbs of torque.

Plus, a Ford F-550 really isn't a commonly owned truck by everyday people. Thats into the commercial stuff.

But, name a year where there was a more powerful factory Mustang produced than a Camaro. I really don't think your going to find one and if you do its only one or 2 years (maybve a couple of the 5.0L years). The only years that I know of is 1964-1966 and 2003-current because there was no Camaro in those years.

I was refering to the F-550 diesle Power Stroke 6 axle pick up truck not the like ford dump truck.

"2003-current" As far as I can tell Chevy has shut down the further production of the Camaro as of 2003. But the Ford mustang is still being produced & selling better than ever. Why would you think that is?

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Reply #28 - Aug 31^st, 2005 at 11:24pm

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Ok USA3000, I hate to tell you, but when it comes to silly stuff, chevy is better than ford (like interiors). My mustang is falling apart from the inside. the shifter only reads P and does not change when I move it towards me.

When You ignore the silly stuff, Ford is way better. Cameros were never origional, an only won Trans Am because they were driven by Rodger Penske drivers. Penske picks the crappy cars, but the best drivers (ex: IRL, Toyota, Sam Hornish and Helio Castroneves)

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Reply #29 - Sep 1^st, 2005 at 12:29am

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"2003-current" As far as I can tell Chevy has shut down the further production of the Camaro as of 2003. But the Ford mustang is still being produced & selling better than ever. Why would you think that is?

Because they are a whole lot cheaper and Ford doesn't have a higher car that the Mustang competes with. GM split their market between the Corvette and the Camaro. Ford has never had a car that competed in the Corvette class-all they had was the Mustang. But, the biggest reason is cost. The Mustang was always cheaper. In 2002 (the final Camaro year) the base price for a Camaro V6 was about $18000 while the Mustang V6 base was about $17000. That isn't that big of a deal but with the V8 cars that Camaro was $4000 to $5000 more in some cases.

I'm not sure I'm not sure where you are getting your "selling better than ever" information but I'll tell you right now that you are very incorrect. In fact, the Mustang sold the best in its earily years before it had any competition (and really before it had any performance). When the Mustang was first released it created a new class for itself-there was no competition. It was a smaller moderate performance car for the first year. In 1966 (its second full year of production) they produced over 600,000 cars which is the highest by far. The Camaro debuted with the 1967 model in late 1966 and Mustang sales dropped quite a bit. Although the Mustang continued to outsell the Camaro for most of its history-it was always considered a cheaper and somewhat lower performance car. In the late 1960s Ford added several powerful engine options to compete with the Camaro but they never topped it in power.

Historically, the Mustang is probably the more successiful car (and its a fine car). But, the Camaro was a higher performance car during its 35 years. And, there are plans to bring the Camaro back into production.

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Cameros were never origional,

I don't know about that. The Camaro is what brought the high performance to the "Pony Car" class. Although it came out after the Mustang it was in the design phase before the Mustang was released (so it wasn't built to simply compete with the Mustang). I won't deny that the Camaro was tuned to compete with the Mustang-but had it not came along that class probably wouldn't have become known for high performance. Because, in 1967 when the Camaro debuted with a 375hp motor option it sparked the competitive juices of its Ford counterpart (and eventually Mopar as the Baracuda was changed to compete with this group and the Challenger was introduced). Ford and Chevy competed with each other to make a faster car and they pushed the "Pony Car" class up to 435hp one year (1969 Camaro ZL-1 COPO). Not to mention the many aftermarket designers and dealers who pushed it even farther (most famously Carol Shelby and Don Yenko).

I'm not trying to say that the Mustang is a bad car-its not, its a great American car. But, I think the Camaro is a better car and thats my opinion. Of course I am a little bias towards the Camaro. I have personally owned 4 of them and during my life my family has had 2 others and never a Mustang. But, both are fine cars (and the new Mustang looks great).

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