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Jan 7^th, 2005 at 9:32pm

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I believe this is a Beechcraft, but I don't care. I like this shot...

Here's a Moth arriving:

Nice replica of the "Grosvenor House":

My best "dawn patrol" picture of that week: the F86 Sabre, my favorite jet fighter of all time (on looks alone):

Hope you like 'em!
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Reply #1 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 4:16am

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Some nice angles there. Wink

#2 is a Stampe SV4. Commonly mistaken for a Moth but quite different if you know what to look for. I hope to get some shots of the real Grosvenor House in the air this season.

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Reply #2 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 9:09am

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I believe this is a Beechcraft, but I don't care. I like this shot...

Beech 18.

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Reply #3 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 9:55am

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Cool shots!

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Reply #4 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 11:21am

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Wow! I really like the last one too!

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Reply #5 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 1:20pm

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That last one is really good. 8)

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Reply #6 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 1:40pm

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Thanx guys- I am embarassed about the Stampe, as I thought I knew that one well. Yes, the tail is not quite dH-style, is it? I have a shot of the nose of the Sabre- maybe I'll post it later. Sadly, most of my in-flight shots were lost (disc delaminated).

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Reply #7 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 2:37pm

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Thanx guys- I am embarassed about the Stampe, as I thought I knew that one well. Yes, the tail is not quite dH-style, is it?

Not to worry. I probably have the advantage as I worked on the Tiger every day for over 2 years & also had my first flying lessons on them. I reckon to know almost every nut & bolt on the old girl. Wink

DH.82A Tiger Moth.

Stampe SV4, probably a 4A. Note the cowling shape & the individual exhaust stubs + of course the different tail surfaces. The rounded wingtips & ailerons on upper & lower wings are not visible in this shot.

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Reply #8 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 6:11pm

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great shots:)

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Reply #9 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 9:58pm

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[quote author=Hagar link=board=photos;num=1105151562;start=0#7 date=01/08/05 at 14:37:23]
Not to worry. I probably have the advantage as I worked on the Tiger every day for over 2 years & also had my first flying lessons on them. I reckon to know almost every nut & bolt on the old girl. Wink

DH.82A Tiger Moth.

Stampe SV4, probably a 4A. Note the cowling shape & the individual exhaust stubs + of course the different tail surfaces. The rounded wingtips & ailerons on upper & lower wings are not visible in this shot.
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Yup... don't know how I could've mistaken that tail. That is fantastic that you've spent so much hands-on time with a Moth! A far cry from the many hours I spent cleaning Cessnas and Pipers in exchange for flight time!!]

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Reply #10 - Jan 8^th, 2005 at 10:34pm

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Also in view on the Tiger posted by Hagar, are the anti-spin strakes on the upper rear fuselage......don't know for sure, but I don't think any model of the Stampe was fitted with them ?........

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Reply #11 - Jan 9^th, 2005 at 3:31am

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Also in view on the Tiger posted by Hagar, are the anti-spin strakes on the upper rear fuselage......don't know for sure, but I don't think any model of the Stampe was fitted with them ?........

I don't know the Stampe as well as the Tiger but I don't think they ever had anti-spin strakes. No other Moth except the Tiger has them. Of course, they weren't fitted to the Tiger until 1941 or thereabouts. My old boss, a respected veteran instructor & pioneer aviator, told me they weren't necessary & were only fitted to RAF Tigers at the same time as on the Miles Magister. After WWII most examples were ex-RAF. In the '50s you could pick up a surplus airworthy Tiger Moth for around £50. One of our 3 club Tigers never had them & was used for training without restrictions. You can still see Tigers flying now without strakes.

PS. I took these during a Tiger Club Moth meet at Old Warden last year. Both examples have been slightly modified to look more like the old Gipsy Moth, its direct predecessor. Note the long exhaust pipe/silencer as fitted to other DH aircraft like the Hornet Moth. This makes the engine run considerably quieter. It also sounds smoother without the distinctive pop-pop sound of the Tiger. Also note the original mechanical airspeed indicator fitted to the port/front wing-struts of both.

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Reply #12 - Jan 9^th, 2005 at 1:00pm

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Thanks for the inside info Doug, I knew I could eke out a bit more on the Moth, from you...............Have you ever seen Graeme Mears model of the Tiger Moth ?.....
He was a member of the first R/C club I ever flew with and has advanced to the upper levels of R/C Scale with it .......google search his name and plane and I'm sure you will be impressed......
At the Toledo trade shot a few yrs ago, he was offered $35,000 US for it, turned it down, and went on to win at Top Gun, the premier Scale contest in the States, later that same year.

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Reply #13 - Jan 9^th, 2005 at 1:20pm

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No, not that particular example but I've seen plenty of fine scale model Tigers over the years. Sadly I've lost touch with modelling now. Haven't done anything for 3 or 4 years. I have no idea how much they cost now but it strikes me that model is probably worth more than a full-sized Tiger Moth. Shocked

Did you spot my deliberate mistake? I just realised the long exhaust I mentioned in my photos is the axle. Roll Eyes

Silly old fool. Embarrassed

In my defence, some examples are fitted with the Hornet Moth-style exhaust system. Wink

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