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« Created by: Spidious on: Nov 26th, 2004 at 12:14am »

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FS9 Verses Half-Life 2 Graphics (Read 657 times)
Nov 26th, 2004 at 12:14am

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Well I finally got my free Half-Life 2 game that was part of my video card purchase. The graphics and speed of this engine are amazing ! They blow Doom 3 out of the water ! I wish there was some way that FS10 had this same type of engine. The FPS that I get on the game is so great I loose track of time ! The water effects are some of the best I have seen. All the objects are so detailed it just amazes me !

I want FS10 like this !

If you have the game post your vote. But only if you have the game or have seen the game played or the download movies of the game. Actual game play is just like the movies....
 

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Reply #1 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 1:09am

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Well I cant really say because the two graphics are made for different types of gameplay but put the world on that engine for FS I dont think a system today could run it IMHO Tongue
 

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Reply #2 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 3:32am

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The idea is that games like Half-Life don't have a wide-open space arround them (usually are limited to a path and surrounding objects, but you couldn't walk free in any direction for miles). Because of that, huge optimisations can be made. On the other side, a game like Flight Simulator must render the world arround you in any direction. Imagine how many objects would require an entire city modelled like the streets you walk in Half-Life for example. For this kind of games, even the open sky above your head is just a hack (a wall with the required texture), not a real open sky.
 
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Reply #3 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 4:01am

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...I guess if the question comes down to " would you like FS to sport the graphics, effects, FPS etc etc rendered in the whole world, that show up on Half-Life 2".. then the answer must be a resounding Yes!

 But what sort of processor would you need for that?... could IBM's BlueGene/L - 70.72 teraflops  handle it? 70 trillion ops/second is pretty fast....anybody care to work out what it would need. Even my own brain..(estimated at 10 QUADRILLION ops/sec) can't work that one out. Grin

Writing the software?..WOW that would be some job now...and think of the time the freeware addon writers would have to spend..... Roll Eyes

 Seriously....it's a NON STARTER eh?..commoner
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Reply #4 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 5:07am

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apples versus bananas !  Wink
 

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Reply #5 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 10:32am

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apples versus bananas !  Wink


More like "oranges and elephants".   Wink

The best machines available to the home consumer right now just barely keep up with the full graphics, AI, flight model,  and systems complexity that fs2004 is capable of supporting. 

The sim will certainly get better with each release....... but I don't think it'll make that kind of quantum leap.... unless someone brilliant (or just lucky) comes up with a whole "new", and up til now not even dreamed of, way to model the world given existing technology.

And each new release will also be looking for more computer horsepower to realize the potential.

Personally....... I'm waiting for the "holodeck" technology from Star Trek: The Next Generation  Wink.  Now that would be a great sim!

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Reply #6 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 11:00am

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One small request guys,

Could anyone mention the minimum system requirements to play Half Life 2.

Currently i get decent frame rates in flight simulator 2004. So, can i expect the same or less frame rates when playing HL2?
 
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Reply #7 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 11:16am

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Can't really say what the min specs to play the game are. But if you look at my computer specs in my signature that might give you a idea. I do not have a really fast graphics card. But during one of the test I was running at 57 fps at 800x600 and 37 at 1024x768. Both at 32 bit.

As far as the flight simulator doing the graphics. I personally would be willing to have the pauses in the game (loading new section). But at the same time realize that for somebody to put a whole city 3D and be able to fly/walk/run/drive/ride over/thru it like I can with HL2 would be next to impossible. But i really would like them to do something with the water. Kinds of ruins the water planes. Orr while flying over water. True I have found many different modifications to the water on different site to help. But think it will never look as good as the water does in HL2  Embarrassed
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 11:40am

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So, will HL2 run with 32 mb graphics card?

 
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Reply #9 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 11:53am

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Spidious, I know you have been around here for a while, but I think you are stretching some of the forum posting rules a tad.....could you perhaps rectify it, since we all play in the same sandbox ?  I would assist, but I'm not a member at the board where you linked your signature image from..........

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Reply #10 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 12:31pm
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More like "oranges and elephants".   Wink



Or Hitler and Gandhi.
 
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Reply #11 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 5:39pm

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Personally....... I'm waiting for the "holodeck" technology from Star Trek: The Next Generation  Wink.  Now that would be a great sim!

best,

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You and me both on that one.  Grin
 

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Reply #12 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 7:07pm

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Actually it was from two of my sites I have. The picture was stored on my Die Cast collection page. And the link went to my PT Cruiser Car Club Site. Sorry about the hyperlink. I actually like them on other forum. Makes it easy to see the persons web sites.

Sorry I did not see that rule listed. I just copied my signature from the PTE Forum I frequent as "Spiderman"

I changed it, sorry !

Sorry also if I put in the wrong section. Sometimes is really hard just where a comment should be made ?

While at it where the heck are the rules you referred to ?
 

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Reply #13 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 7:10pm

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So, will HL2 run with 32 mb graphics card?



I really doubt it. The minimun I would think is 128MB
 

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Reply #14 - Nov 26th, 2004 at 7:10pm

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I wasn't really pickin on ya, in fact, I was just gonna reduce the file size myself and say nothing, but when I accessed your filename, I found that I couldn't help you out on it.......thanks man !
 

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