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Sep 27th, 2004 at 2:01pm

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Hi all!!

Well, I finally did it. After years with Microsoft's IE, I heard about Mozilla's new Web Browser, Firefox. After reading much about it I decided to give it a try. WOW!!

I tell you, this thing works great. My pages load up faster then ever before, built in Pop Up blocker works like a charm. The browser is full of features that I am just getting to know, but love what I see.

Adding extensions, plugins is a breeze and there are many good ones available.

There is a great new Email client called Thunderbird. I got it too and I am just as pleased with it as I am with Firefox.

I am not affiliated with Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird. This is just some info that I wanted to pass along to my fellow Flight Simmers.

You can get the IE extension and if you run acrossed a web site that doesn't support Firefox (I haven't run across one yet) then you just select to view with IE and OILLA!!

Link for Firefox if you care to read up on it and/or download it: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
 

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Reply #1 - Sep 27th, 2004 at 2:24pm

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I've been using Firefox for a while now - I agree its superb! I would never go back to IE in a million years!
 
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Reply #2 - Sep 27th, 2004 at 2:44pm
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Been using Firefox/Firebird for about a year now. Didn't regret kicking my IE's arse.
 
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Reply #3 - Sep 27th, 2004 at 7:04pm

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Same here been mainly using Netscape and love it but have been toying with Firefox for about 6 months, it is awesome!!
 
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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2004 at 4:36am

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I use Firefox all the time, it is soo good. 8)
 

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Reply #5 - Sep 28th, 2004 at 9:50am

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Well, was having problems with Thunderbird (the email client).. Seemed to be a password problem that I couldn't get straightened out. Removed it and wait for a later release.

But Firefox is great. I have downloaded many of the extensions and really love those too. Very functional.

And to think that this is supposedly the PREVIEW RELEASE!!

 

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Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2004 at 5:28pm

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I like the fact that it is open source, your free to do what you want, add what you'll use etc.
 
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Reply #7 - Oct 2nd, 2004 at 4:40pm

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What exactly was Microsoft smoking when they designed Internet Explorer? ActiveX controls everywhere,"This Page cannot be displayed",blah,blah,blah. QUIT COMPLAINING
and download Firefox already,o.k.?
(In short,I love you,my wonderful Firefox...you are the most beautiful browser of them all..) ...o.k.,o.k., It's only a browser,but Firefox is truly a obsession-worthy piece of software.

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Reply #8 - Oct 2nd, 2004 at 9:53pm

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I suppose I'm one of the few who uses IE here then?
I tried Netscape Navigator, went back to IE
Tried Opera - reverted to IE after 2 weeks
I tried Firefox - again went back to IE.

But... I'm not picky about things and explorer has performed flawlessly when called upon, so why fix it if it aint broken?
Just modify the settings and you will have NO PROBLEMS with active X protocols btw....
I've been designing webpages for 4½  years now and IE is still the standard, but it looks like FF is the new kid on the block Smiley
 
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Reply #9 - Oct 2nd, 2004 at 9:56pm

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Yep! FF beats the pants off IE any day.  I've been using FF since its .5 version.  I'm currently using 9.3 though, I'm holding off on 1.0 until it's final,  and until all my extentions and stuff are updated to the new standard.

Speaking of extentions,  Mouse Gestures (MozGest) and Sage (RSS and ATOM reader) are THE extentions to have.  Other notables include CompactMenu and BugMeNot.



Edit: FF also stops the nasties in their tracks, unlike IE (I'm not sure about the new addons that came with SP2, but I can't bring myself to start IE anytime soon).
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2004 at 3:21am
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I've been designing webpages for 4½  years now and IE is still the standard, but it looks like FF is the new kid on the block Smiley


Yeah. Firefox seems to have some problems with a few webpages,but methinks they'll have it fixed sooner or later.
 
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Reply #11 - Oct 3rd, 2004 at 4:22am

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Hi Lads...!

I've just installed Firefox, and I do find that it is very much slower, and jerkier, to download sites and open pages than it is with IE*.... Cry...!

I also notice problems with trying to edit this text.eg:...
smiles can only be inserted during composing the text, they cannot be inserted after the text is conpleted...they only appear at the end of the text...
(The same thing happens on the LAGO Forum text boxes using when using IE)..!

...also...

Can anyone advise me how to make the Firefox main page automatically default to my ISP site, (Wanadoo/Freeserve) , instead of the "Mozilla" page...?

This is going to take a lot of getting used to... Roll Eyes....!

Cheers all...!

Paul.

* ..actually, I've just figured out why this is...
In IE, the page is not displayed until ALL the data has been downloaded...
But in Firefox, the data, (text, pictures, etc), is displayed, bit by bit, as it is being downloaded...!
..so it "appears" to be slow, and jerky... Wink...!
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Reply #12 - Oct 3rd, 2004 at 8:03am

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Hi Paul. I tried Firefox when I started having unexplained problems on some sites with IE. I don't use it for visiting this forum for the reasons you mentioned.

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Can anyone advise me how to make the Firefox main page automatically default to my ISP site, (Wanadoo/Freeserve) , instead of the "Mozilla" page...?

Go to Firefox/Tools/Options/General & paste the URL to your home page in the box. You'll soon get used to it.

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in Firefox, the data, (text, pictures, etc), is displayed, bit by bit, as it is being downloaded...!
..so it "appears" to be slow, and jerky... ...!

I think there's an option not to load images. This speeds it up considerably.
 

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Reply #13 - Oct 3rd, 2004 at 8:21am

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Hi Paul.....
... I don't use it for visiting this forum for the reasons you mentioned......


Hi Doug...!
Many thanks for the reply... Grin...!
...and the tips...!

I agree, Firefox does have a very strange text editor... Cry..!
So, I think I will do as you suggested, and use IE for typing text messages on the Forum.. Wink...!
..all my "smilies" really have to go in the correct places... Grin...!
LOL...!

Cheers Doug...!

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Reply #14 - Oct 3rd, 2004 at 5:32pm

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I use FF for all but a literal handful of sites that don't support it.  SimV does very well here with Moz.
 

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Reply #15 - Oct 10th, 2004 at 6:19am

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Hi all... Grin...!

I've got both Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer on my desktop.

I use IE to browse SimV, and post in the Forum, for the reason that I find Firefox has a rather strange text editor, in that the cursor appears directly over the characters, masking them, (rather than in front of the character, as in a normal text editor), also any smilies must be inserted during the process of typing the text.
They cannot be inserted after the text has been completed, (they only appear at the end of the text.

Internet Explorer uses an excellent text editor where additions and deletions can be performed anywhere in the text..!

Firefox is superb for logging onto sites where IE displays the annoying message...>>>

----------------------------------------
The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.
...etc...etc...
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Does anyone know why Internet Explorer does this...?
Someone mentioned that it is due to the use of "Active X" controls by IE.
...so what is "Active X", and can IE be modified to overcome the problem...?

Many thanks... 8)...!

Cheers all... Grin...!

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P.S.   I still find that Firefox is MUCH slower to download pages than Internet Explorer....(56k modem)... Roll Eyes...!

 

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Reply #16 - Oct 10th, 2004 at 7:37am

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It is because IE attempts once to connect to the site, if it fails that is it, Firefox will continue to try again and again and again... for about 20 times, if it fails after that you get the message that the page does not exist.  It does the retry attempts really quickly so you don't notice it.
 

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Reply #17 - Oct 10th, 2004 at 5:50pm

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Hi all... Grin...!


Does anyone know why Internet Explorer does this...?
Someone mentioned that it is due to the use of "Active X" controls by IE.
...so what is "Active X", and can IE be modified to overcome the problem...?


Here ya go Fozz, this will explain it a lot better than if I tried to, even though I understand what it is and does for me to explain would be a nightmare Grin
By the way Active X is also one of  the easiest way for a virus to get you!

http://www.active-x.com/articles/whatis.htm

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P.S.   I still find that Firefox is MUCH slower to download pages than Internet Explorer....(56k modem)... Roll Eyes...!



To speed up page downloading you can try a internet accelerator, which will basically reduce the quaility of images as they appear, I think you can actually do this within your browser, the less quaility will equal a faster download.
I use a accelerator and have it set to reduce quaility of images, the advantage of a accelerator is that it kills the annoying advertisments found on most website such as the ones that hang above our forums here and many others and you can turn it on or off with a click of your mouse for when you want to see the images in full quaility.
 
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Reply #18 - Oct 11th, 2004 at 1:29pm

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Hi Jeff...!
Many thanks for the link describing "Active X Controls"... Grin...!

http://www.active-x.com/articles/whatis.htm

A fascinating bit of info...!
I read it from beginning to end...
Then read it from the end, back to the beginning...
Then I turned the monitor on it's side and read it sideways...

I then came to the conclusion that it sounds very much like the confusing waffle that our politicians, (and yours?), bend our ears with, in the hope of getting re-elected again for another four years...
And......
I still cant figure what benefits there are of having Active X in my Internet Explorer...
...giving me problems, similar to the waffling politicians, hoping for my vote... Roll Eyes...!

LOL...LOL...LOL..!

Cheers Jeff.... 8)...!
Thanks again... Wink..!

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Firefox - Its better than sex. Thats just a guess cos I haven't been able to try the latter yet!!  Tongue  Undecided  8) I have ahd it a while now. Slower?? Naaaaa. I use it all the time on a 3.86Kbps connection. Works great. So does Thunderbird. Lovin' it!!
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Reply #20 - Oct 25th, 2004 at 7:32pm
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My dad told me I should get it. Maybe I should give it a try.
 
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You talking about Firefox or sex?
 
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Reply #23 - Oct 28th, 2004 at 4:43pm

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He probably means both... lol  8)
 
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Reply #24 - Oct 30th, 2004 at 1:42am

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Just a tip for all of my fellow Mozzers, do NOT try to delete IE after you install FF...here's why.

Windows Update can ONLY be run on a computer with IE installed.  It's MS's little way of making sure you always depend on them. Wink
 

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Just a tip for all of my fellow Mozzers, do NOT try to delete IE after you install FF...here's why.

Windows Update can ONLY be run on a computer with IE installed.  It's MS's little way of making sure you always depend on them. Wink


Very good point!!
I did that after installing Netscape, then realized that almost all M$ related downloads couldn't be performed. As well there are still many websites that cannot be viewed on anything but IE (their loss!) Wink
 
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Reply #26 - Oct 30th, 2004 at 12:31pm
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Windows update (automatic) - who in the world needs that?  Roll Eyes

If I need a fix for my XP,I d/l it manually from MS.
 
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Reply #27 - Nov 2nd, 2004 at 8:22pm

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lol, I was using it and I didn't even know it... Smiley just got SBC Yahoo DSL a few weeks ago and until last week didn't know that it wasn't IE... Grin
 
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Reply #28 - Nov 6th, 2004 at 9:03am

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Geeeez...!
It's so flippin' annoying...!
I have to have two versions of the Web Browser on my desktop...!

One: Outlook Express. For 75% of the time when it recognises the site I log-on to...!

Two: Mozilla Firefox. For the remaining 25% of the time when Outlook Express refuses to recognise the site I log-on to...!

Why do I have such problems with Outlook Express...??
...and is there  a way I can cure it...?

Cheers all...!

Paul.

Note: Mozilla does have certain disadvantages regarding editing..... Wink...!
 

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Firefox - Its better than sex. Thats just a guess cos I haven't been able to try the latter yet!!  Tongue  Undecided  8) I have ahd it a while now. Slower?? Naaaaa. I use it all the time on a 3.86Kbps connection. Works great. So does Thunderbird. Lovin' it!!
Dan


Hmm, well I'd guess, once you've got started, Sex'll feel like Broadband! as you get older it becomes more like 56k..... If your really unlucky, you get disconnected!  Grin
 

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Why do I have such problems with Outlook Express...??
...and is there  a way I can cure it...?

Cheers all...!

Paul.

Note: Mozilla does have certain disadvantages regarding editing..... Wink...!



You can get rid of outlook Wink

As far as editing in Mozilla what do you mean? I haven't any trouble at all with Firefox especially the new release. Just make certain you check all your options under "tools" to see that it is set up to your liking.
And if you notice something not working right look for some extensions to add to it Wink

That is what I like best about it I can choose how much or how little Firefox will do.
 
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