Simviation Forum - Tail spin

Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 5:16am

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I can take any FS aircraft I have, get it in a turn and cut the power back until it stalls, but I can't get a FS aircraft into a tail spin no matter how hard I try. Is this an oversight by the FS developers? I think they must have designed it so all wing surfaces behave in accordance to the "indicated airspeed" and there's only one point on the aircraft (or no point at all) where speed is measured. In real life, a tail spin results when you're in a tight turn and your inner wing stalls before the outer wing. To recover, in most cases, you neutral all controls and give it full throttle.
Has anybody else noticed that tail spins are impossible in FS? I'm talking about FS9, ... do any FSX users know if they've corrected this?

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Reply #1 - Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 7:54am

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Most aircraft in FS are hard if not impossible to spin, although there are a few aircraft available that have been made to spin. I used to have a Citabria in FS9 that would spin, but I don't remember who made it.

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Reply #2 - Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 9:56am

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Hmm... Citabria. "Airbatic" spelled backwards. Good memories. When I was 14 my neighbor had one. That's what I learned to fly in.

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Reply #3 - Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 3:22pm

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Might I suggest lesson 15 in my old aerobatics tutorial (under the FS2k4 section) http://www.simviation.com/fsdhelp.htm

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Reply #4 - Mar 4^th, 2011 at 6:46pm

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Just a a side note..... it's just called a spin. I tail spin would be something different. Wink

The Realair 172 update can spin with realism sliders set to full. Freeware i do believe...

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Reply #5 - Apr 6^th, 2011 at 5:30pm

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As mentioned earlier there are not many planes in FS that actually will do a spin.....realair 172, C150 (the excellent french one), Long Island classics (Christenson eagle and Aeronca champ) these are the few noteable ones that come to mind for FS9.

Also, it sounds like your entry method for a spin could use a little......research Wink

try cutting throttle and slowly pulling back on the controls while the plane slows to a stall, when it wont fly anymore then kick a pedal and hold both the control column back and the rudder fully deflected (hold aileron nuetral).......and hold on! Cheesy

keep an eye on the airspeed indicator, it shouldnt rise up much above the stall speed of the AC.........when your ready to recover hit full rudder in the opposite direction of the yaw then lower the nose to break the stall and open up the throttle......... and your back to flying Cool

Have fun

PS. dont try it below 3000' - 4000' Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 8:03am

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I do like this Wink

whats all this about throttle.

My only spin excercise that I had to do before going solo was about 3 1/2 turns and a vertical drop of around 800 feet.

Now then I couldn't put throttle on - I was in a K13 glider Grin

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Reply #7 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:02pm

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Romflyer wrote on Apr 6^th, 2011 at 5:30pm:

As mentioned earlier there are not many planes in FS that actually will do a spin.....realair 172, C150 (the excellent french one), Long Island classics (Christenson eagle and Aeronca champ) these are the few noteable ones that come to mind for FS9.

Also, it sounds like your entry method for a spin could use a little......research Wink

try cutting throttle and slowly pulling back on the controls while the plane slows to a stall, when it wont fly anymore then kick a pedal and hold both the control column back and the rudder fully deflected (hold aileron nuetral).......and hold on! Cheesy

keep an eye on the airspeed indicator, it shouldnt rise up much above the stall speed of the AC.........when your ready to recover hit full rudder in the opposite direction of the yaw then lower the nose to break the stall and open up the throttle......... and your back to flying Cool

Have fun

PS. dont try it below 3000' - 4000' Roll Eyes

You sir get a free chicken dinner

FSX planes will stall but its like the plane has one wing in the middle instead of one on each side. A spin is a product of a "turning stall" power on or off. In reality one wing will ALWAYS stall before the other.
Yup, let the controls go and either add or cut power.
A flight instructer will hopefully exercise this, but prevent a spin.
FSX will not replicate a turning stall.

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