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Reply #30 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 10:24am

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Fozzer wrote on Dec 17th, 2012 at 7:23am:
Certainly not a time, or place, to glorify; "gun ownership" in the United States of America.
Its all a total mystery to most of us.

The massacre of the innocents.

Paul.


Oh, how i agree.
 
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Reply #31 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 1:22pm

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Okie-Dokie , well I'm movin to MAYBERRY, where all is peace and Quiet and there ain't none of this BS goin on' !!

Barney Fife won't tolerate  any of it !

and with Barney Fife around, what could possibly go Wrong !!!  Grin

Quiet days, and quiet nights - Mayberry Style !

I'm movin to Mayberry, and have a few drinks with Otis once in a while ! Roll Eyes

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Reply #32 - Dec 17th, 2012 at 6:51pm

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Fozzer wrote on Dec 17th, 2012 at 7:23am:
Certainly not a time, or place, to glorify; "gun ownership" in the United States of America.
Its all a total mystery to most of us.

The massacre of the innocents.

Paul.



As you posted a nondirectional post after mine I can't be sure you meant my comment or generalizing. Just to clear up what I meant.. since firearms control is the topic of the day in every newspaper, radio talk show and has even been mentioned here. I neither own a firearm nor take sides in the debate. I am simply saying that peeling 2 or 3 million firearms out of American hands is physically impossible and just banning them would take over 100 years to see any results. I am also sure 'glorifying' food in this thread has another time and place.. 
 

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Reply #33 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:31am

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My Stance on Gun Ownership is like this :

I don't own any Assault Weapons, don't feel I need to.

I do however own a Registered Taurus 608 Magnum .357 Revolver 8 Shot !

A .12 Gauge Shot Gun
as well as a Rifle.

and 1 .177 High Powered Spring loaded Pellet Gun/ Rutger.

In the event that I'm a Victim of a "Home Invasion" / Robbery, where my front door is Kicked in, or some other means of illegally entry by Criminals, out to Rob me, & Bring Harm to me ,,,,

at least I have a means to DEFEND myself from the Intruders who Inveaded my Home !!

I Highly Doubt under any Circumstances, and in my 49 yrs. I've never seen or heard of it happening, that I'd be able to Defend myself to any Decent Degree - by offering the Criminals , "WINE & CHEESE" , or "COOKIES & MILK" - see where that get ya in a Situtation like that when it comes down !!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Calling 911 attempting to get the POLICE to your house in time in most cases is next to impossible or the response time is way off, by then it may be too late, and I'm NOT willing to take the chance, especially with my Life !!

I do NOT Idiolize or Glorify my Guns, just doesn't interest me in the slightest , my Guns are like all my TOOLS sitting in my Big Ol' Roll Around Craftsman tool boxes and my Cornwell Roll around tool box , their only good and of use to me when and IF I need to use them, other wize I consider them, kinda Dust Collectors actually !

But, I believe and always have in Fighting Fire, with Fire, showing up at a "Gun Fight" with a "Pocket Knife", I just ain't that Naive & Stupid or Gullible !!  Huh Huh

The last thing I'm gonna do, if Criminals pull a Home Invasion on me, is whip out the 'WINE & CHEESE" or offer them "COOKIES & MILK", and hope everything is going to be just "Hunky-Dory" , "Fine & Dandy" - and as The Inspector said :

If used properly - "it'll remove the Finger Prints" !!  Huh  Shocked  Shocked

a DisArmed Society is a Vulernable Society !

Sincerely, Inspector Harry Callahan  Shocked  Shocked  Huh

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Reply #34 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 5:27am

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We should stop this topic right here right now.

This is not the place for it, come my fellow simmers, let us discuss less divisive topics.
 

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Reply #35 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 11:13am

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I read HANNIBAL and there is much sense in that post.

To be honest, i do have a gun to meet the explosive of home rubberies we now see here.

I also can follow wahubna. This is a very hot subject right now.

Edit. But i'm sure if i use my gun, even to defend me and mine, i would get a sentence in this country....
 
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Reply #36 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:01pm

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My two cents worth:

If a madman wants to kill innocent people he will find a way.

Killers don't need guns to kill people.

Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer and diesel fuel....you don't see them outlawed

The 911 terrorist used box cutters and planes. These are still in use as well.

The Nazi's used cyanide gas.

Taking guns from innocent people will not protect innocent people.

The problem is not guns; it's the society that has created a path for evil to grow unimpeded and stifling the voice and teachings of good because it offends a minority of the population.

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Reply #37 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:33pm

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I own a rifle, and I have a strict plan of use for it:  It stays in the house at all times.  Never with my in the car, never outside for anything.  Problems outside?  I'll call the cops.  Someone at my front door that I do not know?  I'll get the rifle, get the phone if I need to call the cops, then find out who it is.   No confrontations. 

I never open the door without knowing who it is, and anyone coming by always calls first, they know that.  Someone actually breaking in?  If I feel my life is on the line, I'm prepared.  Since it's very difficult to break in here, you'd need a sledge or an ax, the perp already has a weapon ready to go.  Knowing that, so must I. 

I do not show friends the rifle, I never speak of it.  It only exists for me, it's not a showpiece.   

I spend a lot of time in my yard in the mornings, without any weapons on me, unless you consider tree pruners and pruning shears to be weapons.  Someone comes up, I'll go into the house and enact my security plans. 

And I don't fall for the "I'm with the power company, we need to check your wiring inside" stuff.   You see this on the news sometimes, yet people still let strangers inside and end up getting robbed.

Contrive a plan and stick to it.
 
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Reply #38 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:54pm

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Apex wrote on Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:33pm:
I own a rifle, and I have a strict plan of use for it:  It stays in the house at all times.  Never with my in the car, never outside for anything.  Problems outside?  I'll call the cops.  Someone at my front door that I do not know?  I'll get the rifle, get the phone if I need to call the cops, then find out who it is.   No confrontations. 

I never open the door without knowing who it is, and anyone coming by always calls first, they know that.  Someone actually breaking in?  If I feel my life is on the line, I'm prepared.  Since it's very difficult to break in here, you'd need a sledge or an ax, the perp already has a weapon ready to go.  Knowing that, so must I. 

I do not show friends the rifle, I never speak of it.  It only exists for me, it's not a showpiece.   

I spend a lot of time in my yard in the mornings, without any weapons on me, unless you consider tree pruners and pruning shears to be weapons.  Someone comes up, I'll go into the house and enact my security plans. 

And I don't fall for the "I'm with the power company, we need to check your wiring inside" stuff.   You see this on the news sometimes, yet people still let strangers inside and end up getting robbed.

Contrive a plan and stick to it.


Apex... Smiley....

..have you considered entertaining the intruder with a sing-song on the old Gibson 6-string?.... Wink...!

Paul... Grin.. Grin...!
 

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Reply #39 - Dec 18th, 2012 at 6:51pm

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wahubna wrote on Dec 18th, 2012 at 5:27am:
We should stop this topic right here right now.

This is not the place for it, come my fellow simmers, let us discuss less divisive topics.



I'm agree ,This its a very sad episode a lot of innocent children died and this topic its turning into a weird zone
 

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Reply #40 - Dec 19th, 2012 at 9:17am

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Romulus111VADT wrote on Dec 18th, 2012 at 1:01pm:
My two cents worth:

If a madman wants to kill innocent people he will find a way.

Killers don't need guns to kill people.

Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer and diesel fuel....you don't see them outlawed

The 911 terrorist used box cutters and planes. These are still in use as well.

The Nazi's used cyanide gas.

Taking guns from innocent people will not protect innocent people.

The problem is not guns; it's the society that has created a path for evil to grow unimpeded and stifling the voice and teachings of good because it offends a minority of the population.

Sad


Ofcourse you're right.
A killer can kill another with one finger!!
 
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Reply #41 - Dec 19th, 2012 at 2:48pm

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wahubna wrote on Dec 18th, 2012 at 5:27am:
We should stop this topic right here right now.

This is not the place for it, come my fellow simmers, let us discuss less divisive topics.


^ this.

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