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OMG OMG WTF is happening ???? 27 DEAD !! (Read 394 times)
Dec 14th, 2012 at 12:59pm

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OMG, I mean reallly, I had to leave the everyday news sites and come over here to escape what i'm now hearing and just now being released to news media across the World-Wide Globe,,,,,

It went from a school shooting 1 person killed to now their announcing 27 or more kids killed in that shooting!

Geshhh, whats going on out here, everybody going bonkers or something,,, ????

is there something in the Water thats making humans totally lose it or what ??

I'm NOT drinking anymore water for a while -  Undecided

Think I'll stick to ORANGE JUICE for quite sometime  Smiley

this is just Crazy, Ridlicious, Sadd and makes me upset seeing & hearing this !

NEWS BULLITIN : http://www.cbsnews.com/

27 Children Dead - from Shooter ,,, god this makes ya madd & upset no excuse for it whatso ever !


BREAKING NEWS BULLITIN : http://www.cnn.com/
 

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Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2012 at 3:45pm

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He killed his brother before he went to the school and then went to his mothers classroom and killed her. Ass couldn't stop at that and shot 5 year old children dead. It brings tears to my eyes when I think of the parents that lost their children will go home tonight and unplug the Christmas lights and cry and cry.
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2012 at 5:13pm

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Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2012 at 5:14pm

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This is truly shocking.  It's all over the news with pre-empted broadcasts, and the extent of it is just very difficult to comprehend, especially with all the children involved.

Our thoughts go out to all. 
 
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Reply #4 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 1:21am

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This just slapped me in the head with shock. Prior to my USAF hitch I stayed with them a month but also, when I'd drive home on leave from Nebraska, I'd exit route 84 to see my youngest cousins in Sandy Hook. The youngest moved to Florida with their mom after I finished my hitch in the Air Force and I've had but two phone contacts with two of them and I just sent an e-mail Happy B'day/Thanksgiving to the youngest, reminding her I hadn't seen her since she was almost 11; I couldn't help reminiscing over the past few weeks and missing those days... and now this. I got to know some of their friends at the time -- some of whom may have remained in the area and have children and younger relatives of their own there. Nevertheless, going back far enough, we're all cousins, more or less distant.

Notwithstanding anyone else, and let alone killing, neither can I understand even harming children like this; my natural instinct is to protect them -- heavens, I even have that tendency toward other infant mammals. No matter what any of us do or say, we can't change what's happened; wish we could.



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Reply #5 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 6:05am

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NOW BEING REPORTED from Las Vegas Nevada - SHOOTING Inside the Excalibur Hotel & Casino 2 dead, hundreds of Casino patrons Fleeing !!!

News Article : http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/dec/14/police-investigating-shooting-excali...
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 6:19am

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...and another, from a few days ago....>>>

Oregon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20698095

(One which I followed, in an exercise to identify the shooters ancestry from his facial features).

A World full of Guns.

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Reply #7 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 6:48am

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Fozzer wrote on Dec 15th, 2012 at 6:19am:
A World full of Guns.
Sadly, even worse. We've had infants beaten and thrown agaginst walls, candy and fruit poisoned...
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Reply #8 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 7:21am

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The 1 Thing i've noticed in the last 10 to 12 years is this - 

these Shooters, are all 30 yr.old or Under ! 

under 30 somethings !

Coincedence ?

Well, its that particular Generation, in particular that back in the 1990's era, is about the same time that The VIDEO GAME market started to Explode, and come about, and  those Violent Video Games, shoot em' and Kill, and Murder Video Games .

Back in 1996 and again in 1998 there was talk about all this how these Violent Video games played by young kids could easily influence them or confuse them and Distort the Perception of Reality and Life in General.

Meaning, that after playing hours upon hours of those types of Violent Games, they could possibly percieve this as how to handle a situtation in real life, there was a lotta Debate about this back in the 1990's, and we were WARNED about this, that when this particular Generation grew up and got older, we could expect to see things like this happen - and they wanted those Violent Video Games pulled off the Market and unavailable for sale.

The end result instead was - a Warning label on the outside of the Box, was sufficent enough ! 

Another contributing Factor, was the Lyrics of some of the RAP Music that was coming out - Advocating Guns, Shootings, Worshipping & Idiolizing Guns, Drugs, Gangs etc. 

We've all seen & heard how many  of those so-called RAP artists have been murdered or sent to prision !!

As I sit back and look at it - and develop Tunnel-Vision, everything they said and stated earlier in the past is coming true so far, as Ridlicious as it is and as Insane and Ignorant as it may seem, there is quite a bit of Truth to what they were trying to WARN us about and so far - they've been right on' with their predictions , too badd so many refuse to see and believe it or acknowledge it and comprehend it as its happening !

When I was growing up in the 1960's &1970's era - we didn't have all those Violent Venues Shoved down our throats , we found entertaing things to do, ride bicycles, actually go outside and play with other kids , build forts, play ball, make things, work on things, our bikes or something - go Fishing, hiking, Swimming in the Lakes or ponds or the Creek

We Weren't sitting around for hours on end with some plastic controller in our hands trying to Shoot murder Badd guys on some Video Game for hours upon hours on end trying to get to the next Level where can can Blow things up !!! 

The Music we listened to was more Happy & upbeat ,than this RAP music advocating how badd things are, and advocating & Glorifying Guns, Drugs, Shootings, being in a Gang Robberies Car Jackings etc. 

From what I'm seeing and witnessed and actually lived thru - the last 35 years, it was that 1990's Sub Culture and Technology that many of these kids grew up on of that particular Generation that has attributed to much of this - and its NOT just the Technology and the advancement of Violent Video Games - but also the way the Medical profession is attempting to treat Society now - with getting everybody on some sort of PILL for this, and a PILL for that, and yet another PILL for this - before ya know it - these Doctors are Brewing a very Toxic Brew inside the human Mind & Body, a Ticking Time Bomb !!! 

But Ohhhh Wait - we got another PILL - for that !  Cheesy

and so now the "TOXIC Time  Bomb" has been set and place, just sit back and wait for it to fully Erupt and watch what happens !  Shocked  Sad  Angry

Notice as far as I know to Date - out of all these Shootings - NOT 1 of these Doctors or  supposed Medical Professionals have even been held Accountable or the Pharmseutical Industry ???

Now what does that remind of of recently ??

The Corrupt Bankers & Wall Street Crowd who have seemingly got away with they did, hardly any of those Bank Excecutives & CEO's have gone to Prision for what they've done - Coincedence ???

Do or has any of these Doctors ever gone to PRISION or been indicted for over prescribing medications for their mentally ill patients who just went out and went totally Bonkers !!

Amazing how they all seem so amazingly Innocent within all this !   Shocked 

Amazingly - its more about the Almighty Dollar from some of these Doctors and drug companies as to how much money they can make by Shoving PILL after PILL at us and brewing up their TOXIC Brew to eventually turn Brains into absolute Mush causing all kinds of Havoc upon us ! 

Well its happening, just as they said it would 10-15 years ago, as they said it would and now were seeing the end results from all this and I must say I'm NOT at all Amused - its very Sickening and Pathetic and outright Disgusting !!!  Angry

Think its time to Wake up and pay little more attention and Quit pretending it isn't happening or doesn't excist or isn't happening !

as far as I'm concerned it isn't GUNS that are the True problem - its mentality behind it all !

Drunks in cars kill people all the time , yet I don't hear anybody Advocating to take away all cars trucks bikes !

If GUNS weren't available and were never manufactured - they'd use knives, Axes , Machetes or Chain Saws or some other type of instrument as a Weapon .

Go Ahead chime in, lets hear your thoughts !!! 

Thank You, have a nice peaceful Holliday Season a Happy Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year too all Sim Pilots & Moderators Scenery Designers and Aircraft Designers !

 

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Reply #9 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 9:17am

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Jetranger wrote on Dec 15th, 2012 at 7:21am:
Drunks in cars kill people all the time , yet I don't hear anybody Advocating to take away all cars trucks bikes !



Whist I share the shock that this act has brought, I cannot help to note that we are on a whole very selective with our outrage today. For example, last year 33,600 people were killed in road traffic accidents in the USA, that is around 93 per day, two thirds higher than death by shooting and yet, somehow acceptable by our politicians.

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Reply #10 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 9:19am

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I personally think it has to do as much with the growing population as much as it does with games and rappers.
There is a difference,playing a GAME that involves selecting a weapon and pointing a crosshair over somebody or HEARING someone saying it's all great and amazing.

And as I said,it has to do with the population as well,look at the % of the population that behaves like that
 

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Reply #11 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 9:32am

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expat wrote on Dec 15th, 2012 at 9:17am:
Jetranger wrote on Dec 15th, 2012 at 7:21am:
Drunks in cars kill people all the time , yet I don't hear anybody Advocating to take away all cars trucks bikes !



Whist I share the shock that this act has brought, I cannot help to note that we are on a whole very selective with our outrage today. For example, last year 33,600 people were killed in road traffic accidents in the USA, that is around 93 per day, two thirds higher than death by shooting and yet, somehow acceptable by our politicians.

Matt

The difference being that, however terrible those statistics might be, road traffic accidents are just that & not (in most cases) deliberate or intentional.

I have always thought that the increase in graphically violent films, TV programmes & video games is responsible for the mindset behind some of these senseless shootings.
 

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Reply #12 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 10:33am

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I am going to be very very blunt here.

Gun control is NOT the issue. Guns have been in private American citizens hands for decades and yet these mass shootings were not an issue. 99.999% of gun owners are law-abiding citizens. 100% of gun using criminals are not.

What IS the issue is attention to special needs people. My in-laws had a string of really bad luck. After my wife was born they could not get pregnant so adopted eventually 2 kids. A girl and boy. Both ended up being the victims of fetal alcohol abuse. The girl is 100% capable of caring out a mass shooting and we all now it. She is completely unstable but she is still just a 14 year old girl that needs care. The boy is a sweat heart but heavily handicapped. The girl (I will just call her M), on many occasions had to have 2+ police officers restrain her. Yet STILL, gov't aid extremely limited for my in-laws. Time after time public school officials and doctors at places like Pine Rest (mental hospital) say there is NOTHING WRONG WITH EITHER OF THE KIDS!!!!!!
Time and time again the community shuns my in-laws. Time and time again the special needs kids are shunned and mistreated by average people.

So no,  gun control is not the damn issue. The issue is people completely ignoring and mistreating all these broken individuals that carry out these horrible acts.

The common thread in these shootings (besides the obvious presence of guns) is a broken shooter. Someone that has not been treated well and needs help bad. One person showing some love and attention to this shooter could have saved all those lives lost yesterday. But you know what, in our (myself and in-laws) experiences, the average person will refuse to step up and offer to help with special needs for whatever reason.



So instead of arguing for/against gun control, lets think about the type of people carrying out these acts. Lets think about giving these people some help!

To be blunt, I guarantee anyone here not a special needs care specialist reading this cannot handle 'M'. She is so damaged she needs daily professional help and lots of medication. She has threatened and tried to kill many many people including her classmates. All the community does is tell my in-laws they are bad parents. No help.

WARNING: DO NOT ARGUE WITH ME ON THIS! If you have not experienced what it is like dealing with special needs people at their worst you have no idea what it is like trying to handle them. Just watch the news though and you can see how bad it can get.

 

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Reply #13 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 11:05am

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Mark my words.........With the supposed "END OF THE WORLD" a week away, I believe that this is just the start of things to come. People are thinking that "hey, if the world is ending, I can go out and do what I want and not have to worry about the consequences. What are they going to do to me? We're all going to die anyway...right?" "Gun control" isn't going to fix anything. Criminals always find a way..........
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 15th, 2012 at 11:08am

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wahubna wrote on Dec 15th, 2012 at 10:33am:
WARNING: DO NOT ARGUE WITH ME ON THIS! If you have not experienced what it is like dealing with special needs people at their worst you have no idea what it is like trying to handle them. Just watch the news though and you can see how bad it can get.

I'm not going to argue. However, if you're implying that these mass shootings are carried out by special needs people it might be sensible to keep them well away from firearms.
 

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