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Sep 3rd, 2012 at 5:17pm

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Last year I bought USING ONLY ONE CLICK  FOR EACH item S
Two acoustic Fender Guitars and One cheap Keyboard Yamaha Using the donation founds from my paypal button in my website Which successfully arrived all three of them less than a month I didn't had any problem..

I decide and very much to buy a better keyboard this time ,I have $225 ,I have bought the same Piano 4 times and the seller after me sending emails or text messages said he did not receive the pay

  But why there is a receipt of payment in my account ?

I took to every single transaction I send it to them ..No response at all

http://www.simviation.com/fsnd/1.jpg
http://www.simviation.com/fsnd/2.jpg
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http://www.simviation.com/fsnd/4.JPG ;

can any one help me to what's going on here ,My paypal account has the same No buddy has charge/or collect anything Embarrassed  and I want that piano

Alex
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Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 7:24pm

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I read through the attached stuff carefully.  I can read a little Spanish, not much, but I'm unclear as to exactly what's going on and cannot offer any advice on that.  Sorry.  You may need to contact the seller to clear everything up.

But here's a few items:

That Yamaha keyboard is actually quite good, I had a DGX230 once for a awhile.  It is also available on other sites I mentioned below at about the same price.

I've dealt with eBay in the past buying music gear with no problems, however, I prefer to use any other source first. 

I've also had a lot of experience buying music gear via online music sites. 

When buying musical instruments or music gear, especially new gear of any kind, check online stores like MusiciansFriend, Guitar Center, SamAsh etc before buying on eBay, and also check Amazon, especially if you're looking for new gear.

Your well-known online music stores and Amazon are totally reliable.  They have excellent customer service and you are completely protected with all purchases through these sources.  Returns are very easy if you're not satisfied, no hassles.

The online stores all have the exact same prices for the same item, so shopping from one to the other will not get you any lower prices.  However, you might find some blemished items or used gear from store to store, and at slightly reduced prices.

eBay may have some good deals with used gear, some have a 'buy it now' deal so you don't have to bid.  But with eBay vendors, you should check their return policies carefully before buying.

With online music stores and Amazon, your purchasing is secure, so for me, I don't use Paypal for these stores.   However, Paypal is the way to go if you prefer.

If you use a credit card for any purchase, music gear or otherwise, the card company can and will help you resolve disputes of various kinds if the seller won't give you satisfaction.

Always use Paypal for eBay.

You may already know some or all of this.  I hope this helps you and anyone else reading this.

 
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Reply #2 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 4:10am

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e-Bay always scares me, for fear of something going wrong, so I NEVER use it!
I always make all my purchases from reputable, trusted, dealers/sources, using Credit/Debit Cards.
Sometimes it costs me more, but I always have the satisfaction of ensuring a problem-free transaction.
All my various musical instruments are always purchased from Music Shops....
..and all my Motor-bike bits purchased from Motor-bike shops!

e-Bay, can be a fatal step into the unknown!... Shocked....!

Paul... Smiley...!

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Reply #3 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 7:25am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 4:10am:
e-Bay always scares me, for fear of something going wrong, so I NEVER use it!
I always make all my purchases from reputable, trusted, dealers/sources, using Credit/Debit Cards.
Sometimes it costs me more, but I always have the satisfaction of ensuring a problem-free transaction.
All my various musical instruments are always purchased from Music Shops....
..and all my Motor-bike bits purchased from Motor-bike shops!

e-Bay, can be a fatal step into the unknown!... Shocked....!

Paul... Smiley...!

Yamaha DGX.230


Sad the problem Paul is that is a money that I really hope Is not missing money into a weird legal stuff ,Its a money I have to use ...somehow ,I can do nothing else Only use it by buy in ebay

I'm trying to contact the seller ,I think could be him that he doesn't want to sell it or he doesn't have that piano ,I don't know what it is ,the whole process of the transaction runs well IT says Its been paid and he claims he doesn't have receive anything

  there's been 2 transactions cancellations ,for this item and I have paid this piano like 4 times ,I have send him pics of the whole thing ,Now he doesn't even answer me

I'm now worried about a strike in my ebay account
I don't know what else to do
 

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Reply #4 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 10:37am

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Looks like its this lot, Alex...>>>

santamonica-deals

http://stores.ebay.com/SANTAMONICA-deals

Delivering to Miami??..with you living in Venezuela?

Maybe there is some confusion with your real location?

Import/Export Duties due?

Paul.

Seller: Bahram Shahramzad....(Indiana Jones' adversary with the big sword?)... Shocked...!
Indy had the big gun!... Grin...!
 

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Reply #5 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 10:53am

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My address is in Miami Fl  Smiley

Grin they have to deliver into that address which is my courier service   ,.THEN it would become another nightmare to me  Tongue

no not really ,they take it to my place in 3 weeks and I paid them for it ,..see?
 

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Reply #6 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 11:03am

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alrot wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 10:53am:
My address is in Miami Fl  Smiley

Grin they have to deliver into that address which is my courier service   ,.THEN it would become another nightmare to me  Tongue

no not really ,they take it to my place in 3 weeks and I paid them for it ,..see?


The Courier paddles the piano across the Caribbean Sea from Miami?

Its going to get wet, Alex, and go out of tune...trust me!

Paul... Grin...!
 

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Reply #7 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 1:56pm

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This is odd, I posted a reply and it is gone............ Undecided.....

So here it is again;

Alex, as you paid by paypal, I would contact them about this. Although it is in Spanish, the window formats stay the same. From what I can see, you have paid, so check your account history. If it is recorded that you have paid and the email address for the seller is correct, then either paypal has dropped the ball, or the seller has over looked the payment. I would start my contacting paypal and explaining your problem. One word of advice, do not email paypal, a reply takes days and days. Spend some time surfing for a customer support number. They do have them, but do not actively advertise them, they are very well hidden however you will find them if you look hard enough. A couple of years ago I was fleeced for $500 by some toe rag that used my account to buy a camcorder. I tried with email and got nowhere. Once I found a telephone number, it was all sorted and refunded over the phone in minutes.

Good luck
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Reply #8 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 2:38pm

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expat wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 1:56pm:
This is odd, I posted a reply and it is gone............ Undecided.....

So here it is again;

Alex, as you paid by paypal, I would contact them about this. Although it is in Spanish, the window formats stay the same. From what I can see, you have paid, so check your account history. If it is recorded that you have paid and the email address for the seller is correct, then either paypal has dropped the ball, or the seller has over looked the payment. I would start my contacting paypal and explaining your problem. One word of advice, do not email paypal, a reply takes days and days. Spend some time surfing for a customer support number. They do have them, but do not actively advertise them, they are very well hidden however you will find them if you look hard enough. A couple of years ago I was fleeced for $500 by some toe rag that used my account to buy a camcorder. I tried with email and got nowhere. Once I found a telephone number, it was all sorted and refunded over the phone in minutes.

Good luck
Matt



Oh yes Matt PLEASE I would really appreciate any help this time  Undecided

I just receive this email and I send them back the Number I receive from paypal of the payment

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I send them this number and It link
4MR811575V4388308
which is the number of the payment transaction  Undecided

I'm kind of a worried ,my paypal money is still intact in my account  Undecided

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This is even more weird!!!

http://www.simviation.com/fsnd/details.JPG

It says State : Declined
 

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Reply #9 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 3:54pm

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Hi Alex,
here are a whole bunch of paypal contact numbers. It would appear that there are only European, USA and Canada. As your English is no problem, then I would use the USA numbers, not sure about phone charges in your part of the world though Undecided Undecided

On a lighter not, as the money has not left your account, then you have not lost anything........... Huh

anyway;

Here are all Phone numbers belonging to PayPal.

4:00 AM PDT to 10:00 PM PDT Monday through Friday
6:00 AM PDT to 8:00 PM PDT on Saturday and Sunday

1-402-935-2050 (a U.S. telephone number)
(877) 672-9725 1-877-6-PayPal
(888) 221-1161 help center
(402) 537-5740 (fax)
(866) 272-9725
(800) 836-1859 Premier Account Holders
(650) 251-1100
(402) 935-2000
(402) 935-2001
(402) 935-2062
(402) 935-7733
(402) 537-5740 FAX
Help Center: (888) 221-1161

PayPal Phone Numbers: America & Canada

1-402-935-2050 (Toll Number)
1-888-215-5506 (Toll Free Number)
1-888-221-1161 (Toll Free Number)
1-408-376-7400 (Toll Number)
1-650-864-8000 (Toll Number)
1-402-935-2284 (Toll Number -- Banking and Check Issues)
1-402-935-2212 (Toll Number -- ACH Processing & Check Services)
1-402-935-2255 (Toll Number -- Account Review Department)
1-402-935-2257 (Toll Number -- Account Review Department)
1-402-935-2223 (Toll Number -- PayPal Compliance)
1-402-935-2250 (Toll Number -- PayPal Compliance)
1-402-935-2000 (Toll Number -- Customer Service Department)
1-402-935-2007 (Toll Number -- Customer Service Department)
1-402-935-5181 (Toll Number -- Debit Card Services)
1-402-935-2116 (Toll Number -- Escalations Department)
1-402-935-2129 (Toll Number -- Escalations Department)
1-402-935-2238 (Toll Number -- Management, Escalations Department)
1-402-935-2239 (Toll Number -- Fraud Prevention Department)
1-402-935-2251 (Toll Number -- Manager, Resolutions Department)
1-650-251-1101 (Toll FAX Number -- Never Fax w/o a Case Number!)
1-408-376-7514 (Toll FAX Number -- Never Fax w/o a Case Number!)
1-402-537-5755 (Toll FAX Number -- PayPal Chargeback Department)
1-402-938-2337 (Toll FAX Number -- Compliance Department)
1- 303-395-2802 (Toll FAX Number -- Compliance Department)
 

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Reply #10 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 4:10pm

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Contacting Paypal is good.  But if that doesn't work, you can contact your credit card company, the one you listed with Paypal, and talk to them about this. 

Remember what I said:

"If you use a credit card for any purchase, music gear or otherwise, the card company can and will help you resolve disputes of various kinds if the seller won't give you satisfaction."

Your credit card company is on your side and can be very helpful. 

If you talk to Paypal or your CCard Co, remember, they're on your side.   Explain things to them carefully and calmly.  They will help you.



 
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Reply #11 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 5:55pm

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Apex wrote on Sep 4th, 2012 at 4:10pm:
Contacting Paypal is good.  But if that doesn't work, you can contact your credit card company, the one you listed with Paypal, and talk to them about this. 

Remember what I said:

"If you use a credit card for any purchase, music gear or otherwise, the card company can and will help you resolve disputes of various kinds if the seller won't give you satisfaction."

Your credit card company is on your side and can be very helpful. 

If you talk to Paypal or your CCard Co, remember, they're on your side.   Explain things to them carefully and calmly.  They will help you.





I open a paypal account only for the button ,for the donation ,it does not require credit card which also I don't have any (things are not so well for the people of this country in fact I don't want to issue my paypal account with any Venezuelan thing at all) that is money from donation and 100% made outside of this country ,I could get in trouble perhaps if I declare that I have dollars here

  but let m remind that I have bought successfully things last year and it was more money like $350

  I receive another emaiil that saids
Hi, okay let me check the number that you gave to me. thank you very much


so now all I have to wait





 

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Reply #12 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 7:49pm

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they send me this
Quote:
Dear alrotalejandro,

Hi, again it doesn't pulling up anything. do you want me to cancel the transaction instead and you can go ahead and try purchasing the item again. please advise, thank you very much


  I told them yes  Angry , there is another seller that have a new same piano (only two are selling this model in new rest are used )

 

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Reply #13 - Sep 7th, 2012 at 8:51am

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Paypal has Locked my account because I been trying to use it too many times

NOW They are forcing me to give them a credit card which I don't have any, there's no way I can communicate them (I wont make a very expensive  phone call to USA)   Now way I can't send them and email

  I'm so angry at this moment that I believe Im going to get sick

  So all that paypal was at the end to loose all that Money ,I couldn't buy anything I couldn't do anything ,now some how its Paypal money ,all that Donation went into someone who already have all the money of the world
 

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