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Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:51am

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Being the ultimate sceptic that I am, when anyone confronted with "The Law", who insist that the "DNA" discovered at the scene of a crime is, without a shadow of a doubt, belonging to the Prisoner in the Dock... Undecided...!

...I am always curious to know if claims like this are really true, and accurate!...>>>

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19423147

I often wonder if they make this stuff up, just to claim that the method used is irrefutable?

A bit of 80,000 year-old bone!...brown eyes, etc?... Roll Eyes...!

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Reply #1 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 11:25am

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I think it is something to do with Mitochondrial DNA within the body part found. Teeth are excellent repositories for this sort of stuff.
The DNA tests from crime scenes work somewhat differently to match up people to evidence, or otherwise.
If someone took a sample of your bone marrow and gave it to a lab they can discover all sorts of things about you like hair colour, eye colour, racial origin etc. However they can't make a picture of you from it.
Science is amazing and I'm sure this data is correct as they know which parts of the genome form eye colour etc. So statements like that would be accurate.
At a crime scene they'd just have tissue to work from not Mitochondrial DNA, however this can be matched to a person in the same way a fingerprint can.
 
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Reply #2 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 11:25am

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It can be true ,by DNA science can read the pattern and have a full view of a person

  what I find a little bit of strange is a eighty thousand years old body would preserve DNA pattern of a living being ,I don't know the details of this body ,even if it was frozen carbon atoms decay/discompose and so the DNA structure after those long periods of time

  I'm not a scientist, I don't know how they are doing it but if it is in BBC probably its true   Maybe the scintist are Harry Potter ,Hermione Granger and Ron Weasley  Cheesy
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 11:48am

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ozzy72 wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 11:25am:
I think it is something to do with Mitochondrial DNA within the body part found. Teeth are excellent repositories for this sort of stuff.
The DNA tests from crime scenes work somewhat differently to match up people to evidence, or otherwise.
If someone took a sample of your bone marrow and gave it to a lab they can discover all sorts of things about you like hair colour, eye colour, racial origin etc. However they can't make a picture of you from it.
Science is amazing and I'm sure this data is correct as they know which parts of the genome form eye colour etc. So statements like that would be accurate.
At a crime scene they'd just have tissue to work from not Mitochondrial DNA, however this can be matched to a person in the same way a fingerprint can.


Are you sure that the Cops are not pulling your leg, and getting you to admit to a crime, even tho' innocent, 'cos you have no way of disproving the DNA stuff!... Shocked...

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Reply #4 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:16pm

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Mrs Ozzy used to watch a lot of those Discovery Channel FBI Files and forensic science programs (not those CSI ones but the proper documentaries). Picked up quite a bit...
 
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Reply #5 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 4:24pm

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ozzy72 wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:16pm:
Mrs Ozzy used to watch a lot of those Discovery Channel FBI Files and forensic science programs (not those CSI ones but the proper documentaries). Picked up quite a bit...

Ozzy,we all know you're lying because otherwise that'd mean you'd actualy KNOW something. Roll Eyes Grin
 
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Reply #6 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:17pm

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I have always been very suspicious of this DNA malarkey when applied to criminal cases, because there never seems to be anyone around to prove that the findings were wrong, with the strong possibility that the wrong person was found guilty of a serious crime.
It is always assumed that DNA evidence is infallible, and therefore beyond doubt..and how are the Jury to know?
I am always convinced that both Science and Humans can make mistakes, so I always remain sceptical of various claims regarding DNA.
It may affect my freedom at some time in the future!... Shocked...!

Paul...very suspicious of most things that Humans claim!.. Wink...!
 
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Reply #7 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:29pm

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speaking of weird thing ..Hey Pablo!!Mark, any buddy from Europe Cheesy Go outside and take a look at the moon and tell me is it look Blue?
because here its still afternoon 
here's the info
http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/34690/fridays+rare+blue+moon+beauty+comes+as...
 
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Reply #8 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:45pm

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alrot wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 5:29pm:
speaking of weird thing ..Hey Pablo!!Mark, any buddy from Europe Cheesy Go outside and take a look at the moon and tell me is it look Blue?
because here its still afternoon 
here's the info
http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/34690/fridays+rare+blue+moon+beauty+comes+as...


Yep, Alex!.... Cheesy...!

..its made of Gorgonzola Cheese...

..speckled, blue and white... Smiley...!

Moon Cheese

Paul...waiting for the Cow to jump over... Shocked...!

... Grin... Grin...!
 
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Reply #9 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:00pm

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DNA....

In 80,000 years time, someone is going to dig up one of my teeth, and identify me as that crazy guy who used to be a member of Simviation, and type daft things, thousands of years ago...

There is no escape!... Shocked....!

Paul...Just call me "Toothy"... Wink...!

... Grin... Grin... Grin...!
 
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Reply #10 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:21pm

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Fozzer wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:00pm:
DNA....

In 80,000 years time, someone is going to dig up one of my teeth, and identify me as that crazy guy who used to be a member of Simviation, and type daft things, thousands of years ago...

There is no escape!... Shocked....!

Paul...Just call me "Toothy"... Wink...!

... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

NO fozzer,this will be the report:

Possible new human species found.
Very primitive build and the main diet apears to be gravy.
Brain seems extremely small for any creature.


Roll Eyes Grin
 
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Reply #11 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:33pm

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It's probably just an old Sasquatch girl, there is one still living, just across the road from me.  Cool
 
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Reply #12 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 3:39am

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Steve M wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:33pm:
It's probably just an old Sasquatch girl, there is one still living, just across the road from me.  Cool
I must say, that sounds hairy.



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Reply #13 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 4:50am

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jetprop wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:21pm:
Fozzer wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:00pm:
DNA....

In 80,000 years time, someone is going to dig up one of my teeth, and identify me as that crazy guy who used to be a member of Simviation, and type daft things, thousands of years ago...

There is no escape!... Shocked....!

Paul...Just call me "Toothy"... Wink...!

... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

NO fozzer,this will be the report:

Possible new human species found.
Very primitive build and the main diet appears to be gravy.
Roll Eyes Grin


Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #14 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 6:19am

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jetprop wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:21pm:
Fozzer wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:00pm:
DNA....

In 80,000 years time, someone is going to dig up one of my teeth, and identify me as that crazy guy who used to be a member of Simviation, and type daft things, thousands of years ago...

There is no escape!... Shocked....!

Paul...Just call me "Toothy"... Wink...!

... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

NO fozzer,this will be the report:

Possible new human species found.
Very primitive build and the main diet appears to be gravy.
Brain seems extremely small for any creature.


Roll Eyes Grin


I suspect that many attempts will be made to grow "Gravy", without success.

The creatures will be unable to decipher my Dinner Recipe, scribed in the ancient language of, "Cockney-English".

My secret shall forever remain with me...(and my Tooth)... Tongue...!

Paul.... Grin... Grin...!

A Photograph of Year 2012 Gravy...>>>

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But I fear that Windows 7; "Picture Viewer" will not be available in 80,000 years time... Roll Eyes...!
 
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