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Jul 3rd, 2012 at 2:56pm

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I believe I posted a help message sometime back about FS9 causing my computer to shut down...I mean completely turn off.  I wanted to let those here know that FS9 is not at fault.  I tried to run FSX and had the same thing happen.  It turns out that the fan, within my power box quit running and my power supply was over heating.  I had to take the computer case apart and put the computer on its side to discover this...only way to see the fan!   I have not yet replaced the power supply, but am happy to have discovered  that the culprit to my problem was not FS at all.   Smiley   Eventually, I will get it fixed.   Embarrassed
 

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Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 3:25pm

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Slanted power supplies are the most infamous sources of strange an unexplainable problems in a PC. I know this very well. Last time I had one of those problems was some weeks ago, when after a blackout my UPS was unable to buffer because of a dead accumulator, e-mule's KAD system went on the fritz.

It was fault of the power supply that made the system clock so unreliable that any possibility of synchronization with remote systems was shot to hell.

Anyway, if your power supply's only problem is the fan you could, if you have a little practice with soldering and an old but working same dimension fan recovered from elsewhere, simply and cheaply change this single part and having a working unit back. Smiley
 

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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 3:50pm

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With the various ventilation/cooling fans in my Computer Tower and Desktop models, when they start to play up after many running hours, causing overheating, often accompanied by and strange noises, I merely remove them, remove any stickers etc, covering the bearings, re-oil them, replace the stickers to retain the oil, and all is back to normal, (and "quietness") again... Smiley...!

Like all things, its all down to regular maintenance... Wink...!

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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 4:28pm

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Fozzer wrote on Jul 3rd, 2012 at 3:50pm:
With the various ventilation/cooling fans in my Computer Tower and Desktop models, when they start to play up after many running hours, causing overheating, often accompanied by and strange noises, I merely remove them, remove any stickers etc, covering the bearings, re-oil them, replace the stickers to retain the oil, and all is back to normal, (and "quietness") again... Smiley...!


Well, yes. This works IF your fan works bad. But if it is dead?

If it is dead two are the causes:

1) The coils of the electric motor gave up their ghost. In this case no amount of oil (fine grade, normally used in sewing machines, at least hereabout, is good. Everything else is not) will make them resuscitate.

2) The workings of the bearings and sometimes the motor itself are SO clogged up to have jammed. In this case applying oil only WORSENS the situation. One must disassemble the fan in its components and then FIRST clean the grit and dirt, THEN reassemble and apply oil.

The only recoverable situation is the 2, but the time spent in resuscitate a cheap plastic fan is most of the times not worth it... that is, unless you can't find another fan or must buy one and it's so expensive you must renounce your summer vacations to pay for it... having to say: sorry children, this year we can't go to the sea because dad had to buy a new fan for his computer... is so sad and in no way cool. Grin

Simply opening the old Power Supply (in the name of God Almighty, do it ONLY AFTER HAVING DISCONNECTED IT FROM THE PLUG AND TAKEN IT OUT OF THE PC), unscrewing and opening it, locate the old fan, unscrew this from the chassis, cut the power wires near the fan itself, skin the inside copper clean for a centimeter of so, then solder the wires that went to the old fan to the wires of the working fan respecting the polarities (keep the wires of the new fan in easy reach and no longer than five centimeters, or two inches, skinned copper included), tape the recently soldered wires so they cannot accidentally short-circuit with nothing, fold the excess wire length discreetly out of the way inside the Power Supply chassis aiding yourself with a strip of tape or a drop of glue, screw on the fan on the chassis, then the Power Supply itself close... it takes half a hour of scrupulous work and an old fan recovered form... elsewhere, and in the end you have a working Power Supply back. Wink

I have done it. It works. Cheesy
 

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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2012 at 4:49pm

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...I loved the word;....."resuscitate"......at the start... Smiley...!

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Reply #5 - Jul 5th, 2012 at 10:42pm

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If you are trying to resurrect a fan try some holy oil Grin
 
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Reply #6 - Jul 5th, 2012 at 11:18pm

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Fozzer's oiling Fans ?? well please don't Oil this Fan, I can't get it to Stop, and I been goin around now for like 3 weeks tryin to get it to STOP,,,,,, somebody please hit the switch and Stop this thing, I'm gettin Dizzy , seriously,, this takes this Flight Simulation thing to a whole new level ~ !! ...
 

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Reply #7 - Jul 15th, 2012 at 8:01pm

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LOL Some interesting comments.  Turns out I changed out the power supply.  I would have never considered changing the fan.  I may be an old codger.. but I want to live a little longer.  Computer works great now as well as my FS programs.  Again, thanks for all the input.   Wink
 

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