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Jun 3rd, 2012 at 2:40pm

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Afternoon all... Smiley

I finally got the Commercial Level Simulations Piper PA-28R-200 Arrow 11 up and running.

Commercial Level Simulations say it is not up to their standards.

It's as good as anything I have seen from FS98, FS2000, FS2002 and FS2004.

Would like to eliminate the three passengers but not sure how to do that.

The Piper seems to work great for me in FSX and is just as nice to fly as some of the Default Aircraft.

Here are a couple of shots showing the Frame Rates which were set at 30 in FSX.

The clouds and weather take a toll on the Frame Rates.

FSX and Windows 7
REX2
ORBX Scenery
FSWC...Flight Simulator Water Configurator
Aircraft is Freeware from Commercial Level Simulations and I believe available here at the FSX>Props Downloads.
Aircraft:  Piper PA-28R-200 Arrow 11
Frame Rate set at 30 in FSX

Lightning 2 O'clock Low...
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Comments and Advice most welcome... Wink
 
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Reply #1 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 2:57pm

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So it seems that it was really the clouds that were killing your FPS ?
In REX, I suppose that you have the choice of the clouds resolution, don't you ? What resolution did you choose ?
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 2:58pm

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Great set, love the VC shot! Cool
 
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Reply #3 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 7:31pm

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Will take a look Stephane...thanks... Wink
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 7:32pm

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Thanks "mfaulisi"...much appreciated... Smiley
 
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Reply #5 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 9:48pm

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Great shots, what plane?
 
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Reply #6 - Jun 3rd, 2012 at 10:00pm

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Great shots Trucker! Happy flying!
 
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Reply #7 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 10:48am

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BlackAce the aircraft is Freeware from Commercial Level Simulations and is a Piper PA-28R-200 Arrow11.

Should be available here at the FSX>Props Downloads... Smiley
 
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Reply #8 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 10:48am

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Thanks Pierre...much appreciated... Wink
 
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Reply #9 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:03am

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Hi Stephane... Smiley

I chose:

For Roads:
High Definition...7CM...with cars/vehicles

Clouds....3D...Cirrus
HD Enabled

Cloud Structures for Cumulus Clouds (30) Choices
ex: Cumulo Congestus
      Nimbostratus
      Cumulus

Cloud Structures for Cirrus Clouds (22) Choices
ex:  Cirro Cumulus
       Alto Cumulus
       Cirro Stratus
 
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Reply #10 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:37am

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The road res will not have any impact. However, the moving traffic might have quite an impact, so it might be a good idea to disable the road traffic in the FSX options.

Concerning your clouds, I still don't know what resolution you chose. Are these clouds 1024x1024, or 2048x2048, or 4096x4096 ? I believe there might be such a choice somewhere in the REX options, but since I do now have REX yet, I can't help you more than this. Let's hope some experienced user will answer you here.

I'm using 512x512 clouds. They look good enough and I can fly in overcast weather 160 kms draw distance without impact (or very low) on the FPS  Cool
 
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Reply #11 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:51am

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Okay Stephane...will see what else I can find on the clouds... Wink
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:18pm

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Hi Stephane... Smiley

Here is what I have:

3D Cloud Resolutions
4096   X 4096 (HD-High Definition)...What I was using...
2048   X 2048 (HD-High Definition)
1024   X 1024 ....Just switched to this NOW
  512   X   512

Cirrus Cloud Resoulution
1024   X 1024... Which is what I am using
  512   X   512

Water Resolution
1024   X 1024... Which is what I am using
  512   X   512
  256   X   256

Display:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 (Display Adapter)

Processor:
64-bit ready
Multi-core (4 total)
Not hyper-threaded

Drive:
3320.52 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
3174.87 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

Memory Modules:
8174 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

This computer is only used for FSX.

Wondering why I should not stay with the High Definition settings?



 
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Reply #13 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:42pm

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The bigger the texture, the more work for the video card.
Displaying a bunch of high resolution textures on the plane is not a problem.
Displaying a bunch of high resolution textures on some buildings or on the ground here and there is not a problem either.
Displaying a lot of high resolution textures on hundreds (thousands?) of clouds all across the sky is totally different. Sure they look good, but they are also requiring more work from your video card. Thus the loss of FPS.

Normally, these 1024x1024 textures should look quite good already, and the FPS impact should be much smaller.

Also, just for tests, try the 512 ones, just to measure the FPS that you get.

In order to test, go the one airport, and use the "heavy rain" (or something like that) weather theme, in order to get exactely the same weather for all your tests.
 
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Reply #14 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:55pm

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I like how you complain about drop in FPS while you are twice as high as me...
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Reply #15 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:57pm

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Hi "jetprop"...not complaining but if I can make things better I will... Wink
 
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Reply #16 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:58pm

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Ok Stephane...will try just that.

Thanks again for your time and patience... Wink
 
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Reply #17 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 4:38pm

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Oh and did you get the external FPS limiter to work?
I've been trying to get it to work for ages but to no avail...
 
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Reply #18 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 5:05pm

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jetprop wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 4:38pm:
Oh and did you get the external FPS limiter to work?
I've been trying to get it to work for ages but to no avail...


These external limiters have never convinced me, I always got terrible results.
I went for the one and only technique that gave me satisfaction:
- Bufferpools disabled in the FSX.cfg (UsePools=0)
- FSX internally limited to 30 FPS
- water set to High 2x
- Texture_Bandwith_Mult adjusted to the value that would kill the artefacts, 40 to 70 should do.
 
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