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Charles Manson denied parole again (Read 1128 times)
Apr 12
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, 2012 at 2:17am
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Charles Manson denied parole, with next parole hearing set for 2027
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Notorious killer Charles Manson, 77, was denied parole Wednesday after a California parole panel "could find nothing good as far as suitability" for his being paroled, a commissioner said.
Manson didn't show up for his parole hearing, which was held at a state prison in Corcoran, California, where he is serving a life sentence.
Manson's next parole hearing was scheduled for 15 years from now, meaning he could die in prison ...
I can't believe they let this POS remain alive.
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Apr 12
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I can't believe they let this POS remain alive
It’s probably more punishment if they leave him in there.
If you think about it if they killed him he wouldn't have been punished because it would happen quickly & it would only happen once.
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Apr 12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Prison,_Corcoran
Certainly not a place to stay for a pleasant, sunny, California holiday....
..!
California is littered with these sort of prisons (Correction Facilities!).
Very nasty places!
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Interesting to zoom onto them in Google Maps..(near Corcoran Airfield). Lemoore/Hanford/Visalia.
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Apr 12
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Why put that lunatic on the news, and that goes for the one in Norway too.
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Apr 12
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He'll be 92 when he gets another shot but most believe he'll die before then. I he still hasn't gotton his GED nor has he participated in any programs since his incarceration. Currently serving 15 months in solitary for some sort of weapon he had or was making. Gets more mail than any other inmate,and approves or denys interviews with media and students that want to study him. Really? Dahlmer lasted how long before he was killed in the gym of his prison and no one has shanked this bastard? Seems he should of had an "accident" a many a year ago....My 2 cents.
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Apr 12
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Webb wrote
on Apr 12
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, 2012 at 2:17am:
I can't believe they let this POS remain alive.
I don't believe anyone who is spending that much time in prison could be said to be 'alive'.
Being in prison for that long is just a very long death. I doubt he will be released before he dies there. So even if they don't actually execute him, he still has a 'death sentence'.
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Apr 12
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After studying the various U.S. Prisons, and their living/dying conditions...
...From an Inmate's point of view, none of them can be called a "walk in the park"...!
They always remind me of an "Alien", off-world, Penal Colony!
Very nasty places, full of very nasty people!
Paul.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_state_prisons
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Apr 12
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Actual, Paul, the other day someone was killed over taking a bag of crisps from another inmate. I think that was Canada though.
They should come to the UK prisons... They'd be given Sky Sports and a massage each day
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machineman9 wrote
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, 2012 at 1:55pm:
Actual, Paul, the other day someone was killed over taking a bag of crisps from another inmate. I think that was Canada though.
They should come to the UK prisons... They'd be given Sky Sports and a massage each day
Yup that was the Don Jail in Toronto.. Nasty place from what people I know have told me. Buddy was mentaly sick . Found a bag of chips on the table. ate them buddy found out ans stomped on his head till he died. The victim was in jail for basicly nothing. just mentaly sick. He should of never been there. Sad case of our mental health system not getting to proper funding.
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Do you know what..
U.S. Prisons are such horrendous places to be incarcerated in, together with its variety of deadly inmates, that I am always surprised that anyone ever commits a felony, for fear of ending up there!...
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Fozzer wrote
on Apr 12
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Do you know what..
U.S. Prisons are such horrendous places to be incarcerated in, together with its variety of deadly inmates, that I am always surprised that anyone ever commits a felony, for fear of ending up there!...
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Paul...I promise I will be good, from now on, Your Honour!...
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The sad part is that the US prison system has "improved" drastically over just 50 years ago. The old system was so bad it drove inmates insane and ended up with half the guards suffering from PTSD.
Alcatraz is still known for it's incredibly brutal incarceration practices.
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This one has always fascinated me, dating from the old Gold-rush days in the Sierra Nevada mountain slopes, near Sacramento....
...and an area I often fly over in the Flight Sim, en-route to Reno.
Folsom Prison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folsom_State_Prison
I just make a determined attempt never to land anywhere near there!...
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machineman9 wrote
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They should come to the UK prisons... They'd be given Sky Sports and a massage each day
No they should come to NZ Prisons; they would get a free puppy to train. Really.
The NZ Government closed a few prisons recently stating that the cells were to small.
Prison isn’t supposed to be a holiday. I think that people who go to prison should pay for their meals & accommodation rather than relying on the taxpayer.
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andy190 wrote
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No they should come to NZ Prisons; they would get a free puppy to train. Really.
The NZ Government closed a few prisons recently stating that the cells were to small.
Prison isn’t supposed to be a holiday. I think that people who go to prison should pay for their meals & accommodation rather than relying on the taxpayer.
According to Stephen Fry on QI, American prisoners are responsible for making license plates, bullet proof armor and firearm cartridges... Amongst other things.
I approve though... It would actually serve some purpose, even if some prisoners refused to do work. Maybe they could bring back the chain gangs and fix all the potholes down my local roads
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Send them to Florida.
Florida serial killer David Alan Gore executed by lethal injection
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Serial killer David Alan Gore was executed Thursday night, nearly 29 years after murdering a 17-year-old Vero Beach girl whose dramatic escape attempt ended a string of rapes and murders that included two Orlando victims.
Gore, 58, was pronounced dead at 6:10 p.m. after receiving a lethal injection at Florida State Prison, officials said ...
In all, Gore killed four teenage girls and two women, including Angela LaValle and Barbara Ann Byer, both 14 ...
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Manson didn't even bother attending his own parole hearing. He knows he is safer in isolation. He's cruel and the scourge of the Earth, but he's not dumb. The longer he puts out his vile act, the safer he is. Meaning, if he tried to reform, he would eventually be put into the general prison population and meet his demise.
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machineman9 wrote
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They should come to the UK prisons... They'd be given Sky Sports and a massage each day
Hard one, when you compare the UK, German, Dutch systems, and then look at the American system. I realise that my only experience is Discovery Channel (and that is as far as I would like it to go thank you very much. When I fart I quite like the sound of a good ripper. I have no desire to have that replaced by something that sounds like a loud breath
), but American system of deprive, segregate and humiliate does seem to produce it's own problems. For the safety of the people who have to work at these places, surly an entertained prison population that is a notch or two below the blow off point will be safer. Depriving people only makes them board and aggressive. OK, they are there to be punished, but it does make the life of those who have to babysit these people easier..........
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The United States is unique - and uniquely evil - in its federal/state justice systems.
State governments are common law based. In order for an act to be criminal under a state's laws it must be somehow inherently wrong. That doesn't explain why it's legal to carry a gun in Florida but not in New York but you get the idea. If you're going to carry a gun from a redneck state into a damed yankee state you might want to check the laws first.
The federal government has no such restrictions and can make pretty much anything it wants a crime. Didn't pay your phone bill on time? Well, you just failed to pay a federal tax. Didn't know it was a crime? Too bad. But if you admit guilt and pay an absurd fine the government won't press for a 20 year sentence. The catch is that
you are probably guilty
of committing a federal offense.
What makes things worse is that federal government isn't answerable to anyone. When people see a ridiculous state law in action they demand its repeal. When they see a ridiculous federal law in action they are lucky if they can identify the agency that enacted it. Because there are far more federal "regulations" that there are laws. And there are a lot of laws.
Why does the FCC (or whatever) care if you pay your phone bill late? Because it has to justify its existence. If it reports to Congress that it convicted 1000 people of telephone tax evasion it can justify a bigger budget. Next year it can catch 2000 scofflaws and justify an even bigger budget.
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The trouble is that capital punishment has been abused (take the case of Craig Bentley in the UK).
Whilst I agree with the concept of absolute justice, an eye for an eye and all that, the problem is who watches the watchers as in our law enforcement officers?
I'm not passing judgement on our police forces, far from it, I've got two cousins and a number of good friends who are cops but not all of them are paragons of virtue and honesty, they too are human.
Somewhere a line has to be drawn in the sand whether we like it or not.
On a personal level I personally feel that capital punishment isn't wrong, that said the consequences of a miscarriage of justice whether through error or a bent copper is far worse than a system that is flawed....
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