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Charles Manson denied parole again (Read 1127 times)
Reply #15 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 7:10pm

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Manson didn't even bother attending his own parole hearing.  He knows he is safer in isolation. He's cruel and the scourge of the Earth, but he's not dumb. The longer he puts out his vile act, the safer he is. Meaning, if he tried to reform, he would eventually be put into the general prison population and meet his demise.   
 

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Reply #16 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 10:49pm

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machineman9 wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
They should come to the UK prisons... They'd be given Sky Sports and a massage each day  Grin


Hard one, when you compare the UK, German, Dutch systems, and then look at the American system. I realise that my only experience is Discovery Channel (and that is as far as I would like it to go thank you very much. When I fart I quite like the sound of a good ripper. I have no desire to have that replaced by something that sounds like a loud breath Grin Grin), but American system of deprive, segregate and humiliate does seem to produce it's own problems. For the safety of the people who have to work at these places, surly an entertained prison population that is a notch or two below the blow off point will be safer. Depriving people only makes them board and aggressive. OK, they are there to be punished, but it does make the life of those who have to babysit these people easier.......... Undecided

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Reply #17 - Apr 13th, 2012 at 1:34am

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The United States is unique - and uniquely evil - in its federal/state justice systems.

State governments are common law based.  In order for an act to be criminal under a state's laws it must be somehow inherently wrong.  That doesn't explain why it's legal to carry a gun in Florida but not in New York but you get the idea.  If you're going to carry a gun from a redneck state into a damed yankee state you might want to check the laws first.

The federal government has no such restrictions and can make pretty much anything it wants a crime.  Didn't pay your phone bill on time?  Well, you just failed to pay a federal tax.  Didn't know it was a crime?  Too bad.  But if you admit guilt and pay an absurd fine the government won't press for a 20 year sentence.  The catch is that you are probably guilty of committing a federal offense.

What makes things worse is that federal government isn't answerable to anyone.  When people see a ridiculous state law in action they demand its repeal.  When they see a ridiculous federal law in action they are lucky if they can identify the agency that enacted it.  Because there are far more federal "regulations" that there are laws.  And there are a lot of laws.

Why does the FCC (or whatever) care if you pay your phone bill late?  Because it has to justify its existence.  If it reports to Congress that it convicted 1000 people of telephone tax evasion it can justify a bigger budget.  Next year it can catch 2000 scofflaws and justify an even bigger budget.
 

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Reply #18 - Apr 13th, 2012 at 4:51pm

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The trouble is that capital punishment has been abused (take the case of Craig Bentley in the UK).
Whilst I agree with the concept of absolute justice, an eye for an eye and all that, the problem is who watches the watchers as in our law enforcement officers?
I'm not passing judgement on our police forces, far from it, I've got two cousins and a number of good friends who are cops but not all of them are paragons of virtue and honesty, they too are human.
Somewhere a line has to be drawn in the sand whether we like it or not.
On a personal level I personally feel that capital punishment isn't wrong, that said the consequences of a miscarriage of justice whether through error or a bent copper is far worse than a system that is flawed....
 

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