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Switching allegiances... (Read 994 times)
Mar 5
th
, 2012 at 7:39pm
Fozzer
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Having sorted out the Universal Measurement Problem, I am now left with the Universal Switch Problem...
Up for on, or down for on?
After a day of switching toggle switches, etc, on my various Aircraft, up for on, I find that I am going around my house wondering why my Kettle is not boiling, and why my Hoover is not hoovering, and why I keep switching my lights off!
You see, in my part of the world we switch switches DOWN for on, in a similar way that we drive on the left-hand side of the road, and unwind our Toilet Paper from the outside of the roll.
It takes quite a while to re-educate my brain in this confusing switching application.
I can look at a switch for ages, wondering what I should do to operate the toggle to electrify, or de-electrify, a particular piece of household electrical apparatus before me..
..!
Therein lies my daily problem!
I wonder if Thomas Edison suffered from a similar dilemma?...
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Paul...
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Mar 5
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, 2012 at 7:47pm
machineman9
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Is something wrong with FS9, Paul? You've got too much time on your hands and turned philosophical
I have a dimmer switch... Clockwise is brighter - A bit like using screws... Lefty-loosey, righty-tighty!
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Mar 5
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, 2012 at 7:48pm
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Fozzer wrote
on Mar 5
th
, 2012 at 7:39pm:
Having sorted out the Universal Measurement Problem, I am now left with the Universal Switch Problem...
Up for on, or down for on?
After a day of switching toggle switches, etc, on my various Aircraft, up for on, I find that I am going around my house wondering why my Kettle is not boiling, and why my Hoover is not hoovering, and why I keep switching my lights off!
You see, in my part of the world we switch switches DOWN for on, in a similar way that we drive on the left-hand side of the road, and unwind our Toilet Paper from the outside of the roll.
It takes quite a while to re-educate my brain in this confusing switching application.
I can look at a switch for ages, wondering what I should do to operate the toggle to electrify, or de-electrify, a particular piece of household electrical apparatus before me..
..!
Therein lies my daily problem!
I wonder if Thomas Edison suffered from a similar dilemma?...
...!
Paul...
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...!
I've always heard the Brits do things backwards, but even your light switches?
Dave
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Mar 5
th
, 2012 at 7:51pm
Dave71k
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As a fellow brit I have come across this myself, mainly because I have an aircraft style switch for the light in my bedroom and everyone who ever goes in asks me why it's on upside down.
Upside down being UP is ON, for me I just couldn't imagine pressing DOWN for ON it seems a bit anti climactic is turning on a switch can ever be climactic.
If I want to turn on my aircraft I wanna switch the switch UP because I want my plane to go UP, and if it's in my car I want to switch it UP(Forward) because that's the direction I want my car to go.
I've never understood why us Brits have down being on :S
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Mar 5
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, 2012 at 8:03pm
Fozzer
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I believe the reasoning for switching DOWN for off, (up for on), was that if one was given an electric shock by operating a switch, the unfortunate person grasping the switch would automatically fall DOWN, switching the appliance off at the same time, therefore disconnecting the electricity.
So, there endeth the first lesson...
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Paul...a Bright Spark in a World of darkness.....
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Mar 5
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, 2012 at 8:11pm
Steve M
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Don't get me started again..
Flying with twins is a lot of fun..
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Mar 5
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, 2012 at 8:36pm
Fozzer
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machineman9 wrote
on Mar 5
th
, 2012 at 7:47pm:
Is something wrong with FS9, Paul? You've got too much time on your hands and turned philosophical
Did you know that Philosophers come from Philadelphia where they practice Philosophising?
...apparently...
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Paul...
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Mar 5
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, 2012 at 8:38pm
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And how did we (or you, not sure which) end up driving on the other side of the road? I've always wondered about that.
And isn't there a voltage diff somewhere? We're on 110v and you're on 220v. Or whatever.
And why are some of my door keys upside down? Shouldn't the pointy edge point downward when opening the lock?
And why do I feel like I need a beer right now.
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Mar 5
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, 2012 at 10:26pm
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Which side of the road means little to me... when I used to drive a radio taxi on the night shift, one of the old-timers told me "if you have the whole road, stay in the middle". Wise words.
But this light switch thing... it's just wrong. I was born in the USA, where UP is ON, but one of my most vivid memories of being barely tall enough to reach a light switch is thinking of it in terms of "when the airplane is UP, you can see it better". Seriously, that's how I taught myself to remember it.
Hard to argue with such logic.
Also, I'm curious: are major switches, safety switches where big current is involved, set up the same way "over there"? It just makes more sense to me, if things are going horribly wrong and you're more likely to be falling down than standing up, to have electrical switches set up so DOWN is OFF.
I'm also curious about ye old push-button light switches... they were pretty common in the States at one time, and the top one was ON. After your family retired the whale-blubber lamps, Foz, did you start using the push-button switches, or the ultra- modern toggles that we know today? And was the top one ON, or OFF?
I'm not sure how any of that applies to panel switches on airplanes, but I guess you can always edit the files so they are "correct".
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Mar 5
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, 2012 at 10:32pm
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Apex wrote
on Mar 5
th
, 2012 at 8:38pm:
And how did we (or you, not sure which) end up driving on the other side of the road? I've always wondered about that.
And isn't there a voltage diff somewhere? We're on 110v and you're on 220v. Or whatever.
And why are some of my door keys upside down? Shouldn't the pointy edge point downward when opening the lock?
And why do I feel like I need a beer right now.
We are 240V (nominal). I don't know why the sides of roads thing happened... We're told to walk on the left (down a corridor), but to take the escalator on the right in the London Underground. Many roads don't have markings anyway, so you could be driving in pretty much the middle of the road and still be on the 'left'.
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Mar 6
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, 2012 at 6:58am
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Fozzer wrote
on Mar 5
th
, 2012 at 7:39pm:
why my Hoover is not hoovering,
You know where the hoover is?!!!!!!
For me it's the same as the "G spot".....location a complete and utter bloomin mystery.
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Mar 6
th
, 2012 at 7:31am
Fozzer
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G.K. wrote
on Mar 6
th
, 2012 at 6:58am:
Fozzer wrote
on Mar 5
th
, 2012 at 7:39pm:
why my Hoover is not hoovering,
You know where the hoover is?!!!!!!
For me it's the same as the "G spot".....location a complete and utter bloomin mystery.
My "Hoover" is my favourite Spider Trap...
...and the details of the location of the magic "G" spot, appear somewhere in my manual of; "How to do it"...
...!
(Forever a total mystery to me, as well)...
....!
Paul....
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Mar 6
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, 2012 at 8:16am
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Right, 240 volts, so we're on 120 over here. Well, watts a few volts more or less. You know us musicians, as long as our amps work, we're good.
Yeah, I know, corny, but us accountants (yep, music and accounting, go figure) need all the humor we can get, esp during tax season.
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Mar 6
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, 2012 at 11:27am
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Apex wrote
on Mar 5
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, 2012 at 8:38pm:
And why are some of my door keys upside down? Shouldn't the pointy edge point downward when opening the lock?
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The key notches are supposed to point upwards. This way, as keys and tumblers wear and tiny pieces fall off, they do not drop down into the tumblers and jam things up.
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Mar 6
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, 2012 at 2:26pm
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Ah ha, so that's why keys point upward. OK. Thanks. Another one of life's mysteries explained.
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