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Feb 16th, 2012 at 1:17pm

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Goodly afternoon all... Smiley

Yesterday I spent the better part of the day at the bugsmasher field with a flight or two thrown in for good measure.

It did me good as this electronic gizmo did no end up in the river...
Listening to those Old Retired Rocking Chair Flying Geezers took my mind off this electronic gizmo AND I even took the old girl out to dinner.

Last week I purchased a WD...My Book Essential External Hard Drive (3 TB/To) (USB 3.O).

I started the computer and plugged it in.

I lost everything.

System Repair and System Restore would not bring the Windows 7 System back on line.

As there are no family members nearby I called a chap who has helped me with computers since FS98 or before.

He said that should not have happened and took the entire unit including the External Hard Drive to his shop and tried to get it going.

There was nothing wrong with the External Hard Drive as it is working right now.

The computer however had to be I think he said wiped/cleaned and a complete reinstall had to be done.

Yes...this dam electronic gizmo cost me FSX again.

My Documents and Downloads are okay but I have lost FSX.

With the help of so many here I just got FSX up and going very nicely I thought and without a lot of Payware.

The problem now is there is no Sound.  Just Static.

Head Phones and Mike would not work either but the Logitech Camera I use for MSN shows everything working fine also.

He never noticed that until he got it back to me and he spent several hours trying to figure it out.

NO luck...

The sound card (Realtek I think) is working okay and the Altec Lansing Speakers all seem to be operating OK according to this electronic gizmo.

However all I get is Static and no Sound.

Strange the computer say's everything is OK but there is no sound.

Well he is going to get me a new Sound Card sometime this week and if that works I am not sure what to do.

Just go to MS Flight or spend the two or three days trying to get FSX back the way it was.

So I might not be on line for awhile folks with a Flight Simulator Game but will keep checking in on how everyone here is doing... Wink
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 4:01pm

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Hi Doug,

There are several points in this story that sound strange to me.
First of all, I fail to see why plugging an external USB hardrive could cause any harm to your main harddrive...
Then, even if there was a problem, the first thing that should have been done is an error checking (the deep one, the one that forces you to reboot the computer and wait a looooooong moment)
Finally, you said the sound card is ok but you get no sound nevertheless in the game ? So how can you tell that the sound card is fine then ? You get sound from other applications and only FSX doesn't produce any sound ?
Last point: you have reinstalled Windows 7 and FSX both completely, if I understood correctly ? Did you run Windows Update several times (with several reboots) until no more important updates could be found ?
Did you also reinstall DirectX runtimes (from microsoft website) and C++ runtimes (from microsoft website) ?

Sorry, that's a lot of questions I know :/
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 7:29pm

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Reply #3 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 7:44pm

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It is a head-scratcher... I could see a unit like that gumming up your USB, maybe, but crashing Windows? Weird. Sorry to hear of your loss...

Can't advise you on why that happened, Doug, but here's a tip: never, ever keep anything important in the default "My Documents", etc. folders. Keep that stuff on a separate partition from the OS, if not a separate hard drive. Usually, one can easily choose where you want to put anything you download. And back up all FS add-ons outside the default FS folder, preferably on another hard drive. Now that you have that humongous external drive, you could back up everything with ease.
I've had to re-install Windows and FS9 few times, myself, but
with no tears (since I learned my lesson the first time). It's still a pain, and yes, I may have to spend some time periodically putting things where they belong, but at least I won't lose a bunch of FS add-ons, photos, installers, etc., etc. when I have to do it.
 
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Reply #4 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 7:54pm

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Another thought is to run the repair function on your FSX disc and see what happens. You might lose some CFG changes though.
 
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Reply #5 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 1:49am

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Did you try running the directX diagnostics from the Run command? Type dxdiag into the run open slot, click ok, and then you can run a sound check from there.
 
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Reply #6 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 4:20am

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Have you got the correct sound drivers installed Doug?
 
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Reply #7 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:15am

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Good morning all... Smiley

Still no sound.

I have not installed FSX yet as I am waiting for the repair person to come back with either a solution or a new sound card.

Windows 7 should make a sound when it starts up and it does not even do that.
All I get is static.

We have checked the drivers and they all seem okay.

Have run Windows Update many many times and there are none.

We know the external hard drive is working fine.

Well I am in my Hurry Up and Wait Mode Again... Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #8 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 9:19am

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Good morning... Smiley

Just ran "dxdiag" and there are no problems.

Myself I think it is the sound card but the repair person will be here later tonight...after supper...
 
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Reply #9 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 10:19am

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Strange issue... Also, strange that the sound card stopped working after plugging that disk...
The more I think about it, the more I hope the power supply of your motherboard is not damaged...
 
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Reply #10 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 12:45pm

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If you have onboard sound on the motherboard as well as a sound card, there may be a conflict. If you have sound outputs on the mobo, try removing the sound card. If it works, that will at least tell you that sound in Windows is OK; whether or not your sound card is bad or causing a conflict is another matter.
 
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Reply #11 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:29pm

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Thanks Stephane and Sean... Smiley

The person that was supposed to pop over tonight after supper can not make it so will have to wait until next week I guess...
 
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Reply #12 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 10:06am

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Goodly morning all... Smiley

Will not have a new sound card until late this week...probably Thursday or Friday.
He is going to Toronto Wednesday to pick some computer stuff up and that is where he will get me a new sound card.

Still have not installed FSX again as with no sound I do not see the point.

I am wondering if I should just install FSX and the Service Packs rather than FSX Acceleration Expansion Pack as I do not fly the aircraft in the Acceleration Pack.

Also am waiting for MS Flight to become available and I might forget about FSX altogether....not sure.... Smiley

Oh the joys of these electronic gizmoes.... Grin
 
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Reply #13 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:06pm

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Hey, Doug.....

Did you somehow accidentally disable your speakers? Check in Start/Control Panel/Sound/Speakers and make sure they are enabled Smiley


P.S.      I don't think "Flight" will make you forget about FSX Wink


 
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Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"
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Reply #14 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:26pm

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Hi Chuck.... Smiley

One of the first things we did...

Darn thing is the computer says everything is OK and there are no red flags anywhere... Shocked
 
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Flying Trucker wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
Hi Chuck.... Smiley

One of the first things we did...

Darn thing is the computer says everything is OK and there are no red flags anywhere... Shocked



Did you plug in headphones to see if they worked? Smiley
 
"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"
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Reply #16 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 7:16pm

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Hi Chuck... Smiley

Headphones do not work either...
 
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Reply #17 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 7:27pm

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Flying Trucker wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 7:16pm:
Hi Chuck... Smiley

Headphones do not work either...



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"Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth and danced the skies on laughter silvered wings. Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun split clouds.....and done a hundred things you have never dreamed of.....wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence. Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"
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Reply #18 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 7:43pm

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Hi Chuck... Smiley

Just tried the headphones again and all I get is static just like I get from the speakers...
 
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Reply #19 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 7:45pm

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throwing in my 2 cents worth - you don't have a check mark in a box marked muted in your speakers sound system,,, do you ??? or what happened to me a month ago,,,, I had accidently hit the mute button on my keyboard,,, Duhhhh and wasn't getting any sound till I hit the unmute button. All your cables in the back hooked up properly ??  I dunno' just asking,,, have you tried slamming a bottle of Vodka of your computer several times followed by a 32 pack of beer - sometimes NOT always that helps, other than sitting it out in the street and waiting for a fast moving semi to hit , but that doesn't always work either. as I said my 2 cents worth and thats about what its worth if that ,,,,,
 
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Reply #20 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 8:51am

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Flying Trucker wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 10:06am:
I am wondering if I should just install FSX and the Service Packs rather than FSX Acceleration Expansion Pack as I do not fly the aircraft in the Acceleration Pack.

You can always install SP1 and SP2 at first. Then in future you'll be able to install Acceleration after simply removing the SP2, if needed.

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Also am waiting for MS Flight to become available and I might forget about FSX altogether....not sure.... Smiley

For now, MS Flight is scheduled to be the biggest failure of the 21st century.
Until MS change its politics and finally decides to offer a SDK to third-party developpers (freeware addons makers, that is), this game has absolutely nothing to offer to the simmers, and will keep being ridiculous when compared to FSX.
So no, you don't need to worry about Flight at all.
 
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Reply #21 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 9:00am

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Thanks Jetranger...

I am using a Logitech G15 Keyboard and the Mute button shows OFF by looking at the Icon of the Speaker at the bottom right corner of my monitor.

Have checked the cables several times.

Starting to think it is the Sound Card as all I get is Static from the speakers or headphones.
 
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Reply #22 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 9:04am

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Thanks Stephane... Wink

Once he gets here near the end of this week with a new sound card I will go the route you have suggested... Smiley

Oh and Stephane...you better crawl back into bed and cover head... Grin
Guess who is going to be getting some PMs and E-Mails once I get this sound back and running.

Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes   Roll Eyes   Grin   Grin   Grin
 
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Grin Grin
Anytime Doug, don't worry about that Wink
 
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