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Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America. (Read 2605 times)

Jan 28^th, 2012 at 5:23pm

Fozzer Offline
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I am in a quandary, Chums... Roll Eyes

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I use my trusty FS 2004 every day, since it was first released, mostly for exploring North America, (Its got some nice scenery...in places!).
Over the years I have added all sorts of bits and bobs, both freeware and payware, to make the scenery above and below as "nice" as I can get it!

At the mo I have:

FS Global (FS 2004) (World Mesh).
Real Environment Xtreme (FS 2004).
Ground Environment Pro (FS 2004).
VOZ 1.8 (FS 2004) Textures, Colours, and wonderful Koorbygen buildings.
SRTM Scenery mesh files for selected areas.
MS Tree Set.
Bernards Road Textures (with stationary traffic).
EZ Scenery (my Scenery Designer).
LAGO FSE (my Scenery Designer).
....etc...
....+ stuff I forgot!

Plus various improvements in the FS9.cfg File.

All this is a vast improvement over the Default Scenery.

I am now considering purchasing "Ultimate Terrain FS 2004 for North America", and I wonder if it is worth it, to add to my existing files...
....and if so, it will conflict with any/all of my existing scenery programs and files?

I am hoping that UT will be more accurate in certain areas; such as cities, towns, inland waterways, roads, rail, shore lines, etc...and maybe improve the ground mesh and textures...without conflicting with my existing scenery?

What to you reckon..."Ultimate Terrain FS 2004 for North America"...Your opinion, and any tips!... Wink

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Paul....FS 2004...The Great Explorer!... Smiley

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Reply #1 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 6:37am

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Fozz

Do you have Howards Mix...here
http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=1hmprog.zip&x=21&y=9

It's nice

Dave

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Reply #2 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 7:18am

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1olehippy wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 6:37am:

Fozz

Do you have Howards Mix...here
http://simviation.com/1/download-file?file=1hmprog.zip&fileId=3458

It's nice

Dave

Ta, Dave...

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Howard's Mix:

Not one I was familiar with!

BIG file 114 MB!...downloading it now... Wink

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Will give it a try.

Paul...FS 2004... Cool

Cool

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Reply #3 - Jan 29^th, 2012 at 9:16am

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Download completed...
..but I think I may have to be careful with this before I install it...

Its a 2008 Program and I fear that my recent, various upgrades to my FS 2004 may be superior to the earlier Howard's Mix?

A lot of work may be introduced in correcting any discrepancies between the two installations...mine, and Howards!

An un-installation? of Howards Mix may create problems!

Howard's program may be more suitable for an initial, fresh (default) installation of FS 2004.

So I'll hang on to it for a while, Dave.... Wink

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Paul...FS 2004... Cool

Cool

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...any more thoughts on; "Ultimate Terrain for North America, for FS 2004"?... Roll Eyes

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Reply #4 - Jan 30^th, 2012 at 3:10pm

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Fozzer wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 9:16am:

Download completed...
..but I think I may have to be careful with this before I install it...

Its a 2008 Program and I fear that my recent, various upgrades to my FS 2004 may be superior to the earlier Howard's Mix?

What you can probably do is install Howard's Mix to a dummy folder to see what it will replace; then backup as appropriate (or if you have the disk space, the entire FS2004 folder). This way, if you don't like it you can just restore the backups.

I don't have it at the moment so sorry I can't be much more help.

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Reply #5 - Feb 1^st, 2012 at 3:24pm

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Hey Fozzer
I have UT Can/Alaska and it is one of the most important pieces of my install....especially if you are using real maps for navigation. I fly mostly in and around my local area (SW coast of Canada) and there is no comparison to the way everything fits together correctly compared to the default scenery.
Strongly suggest it.
Cheers
Romflyer

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Reply #6 - Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 11:26am

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Romflyer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2012 at 3:24pm:

Hey Fozzer
I have UT Can/Alaska and it is one of the most important pieces of my install....especially if you are using real maps for navigation. I fly mostly in and around my local area (SW coast of Canada) and there is no comparison to the way everything fits together correctly compared to the default scenery.
Strongly suggest it.
Cheers
Romflyer

Many thanks, Rom!.... Wink

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I think I will dive in and get it....£22.26 Download.
I just wish a CD/DVD version was available.
I Hate Big Downloads, and Flight 1 problems/complications with re-installations, etc, of the product!

Another thing I wish, is that the UT screen-shot examples, showed the scenery at, and near the ground, where I spend most of my time in General Aviation!

The FS 2004 West Coast of California is extremely accurate as it is, so hopefully, Ultimate Terrain will make it even more realistic for me!

Paul...looking out for the Union Pacific Railroad!... Grin

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Reply #7 - Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 7:24pm

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Well Fozzer, looking good at low altitude is more about textures (as I'm sure you allready know) UT terrain is more about correcting coastlines, roads, and as you have noted railways. It also adjusts landclass to closer represent the real world.
Your textures are being handled by GE pro...? and/or VOZ

Good luck, and let us know how you make out.

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Reply #8 - Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 9:47am

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Good morning Paul...

I have on Disc from Flight 1 Software:

FS2004
Ultimate Terrain...Canada & Alaska
The picture on the plastic case is a yellow Piper Cub on floats.

FSX
Ultimate Terrain X...Canada
The picture on the plastic case is a Cessna 172
Ground Environment X...USA CANADA ALASKA
The picture on the plastic case looks like a Cessna Caravan with belly pod.

Not sure if Flight 1 produced for FSX Ultimate Terrain X Canada & Alaska like they did for FS2004.
They case I have only says Canada for Ultimate Terrain X.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

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Reply #9 - Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 11:44am

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Paul,

Reinstallation of F1 download products is a lot easier now. Create an account using your email address used during purchase (you can do it now or later). For reinstall the installer can verify thru your account (called a Keyless Install), no need to supply/update the activation codes. Cheesy

Cheesy

Do keep a copy of your original order varification just to be safe.

Dave

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Reply #10 - Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 11:50am

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As far as the disk/re-install concern......if I remember right UT Can Alaska was only about 200mb which was HUGE five years ago when I got it but by todays standards its no big deal.....as for the re-install, I recently did a wholesale hardware upgrade and barely survived the process of getting all the important bits back in place Shocked

Shocked

the worst software to get re-installed and running was GE pro..... but UT was simple, just run the setup.exe and it was installed

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Reply #11 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 3:11am

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Fozz, hows about some pictures of things we'd all recognize when you get it all sorted? I'd love to see some really good scenery. Thanks.

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Reply #12 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 10:26am

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I think if I ever have to reinstall fs9, Ill install UT, but until that time Ill live without it. It seems to me it should be the very first addon installed after a fresh fs9 install. Otherwise you could spend days trying to track down every interaction.

In my mind it should go something like:
FS9
Update to 9.1
Ultimate Terrain US
Ultimate Terrain Can/AK
Ground Enviroment Extreme (or Howards mix)
REX (w overdrive pack)
VOZ
and then all your local sceneries
and then aircraft

Am I wrong?
Sean

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Reply #13 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 1:40pm

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jack_ryan wrote on Feb 12^th, 2012 at 10:26am:

I think if I ever have to reinstall fs9, Ill install UT, but until that time Ill live without it. It seems to me it should be the very first addon installed after a fresh fs9 install. Otherwise you could spend days trying to track down every interaction.

In my mind it should go something like:
FS9
Update to 9.1
Ultimate Terrain US
Ultimate Terrain Can/AK
Ground Enviroment Extreme (or Howards mix)
REX (w overdrive pack)
VOZ
and then all your local sceneries
and then aircraft

Am I wrong?
Sean

Ta, Sean...

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You have highlighted the very thing that I am fearful of, that installing UT may possibly conflict with my excellent existing scenery (files) and cause all sorts of problems and conflicts.
So, at the moment, I am holding off with it, until a fresh install of FS 2004 becomes necessary....just in case!... Wink

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I don't want to spoil what I have already got!

Many thanks for all the suggestions... Smiley

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Paul...FS 2004....

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Reply #14 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 12:25pm

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Well Lads...

After much hair tearing, I finally managed to decipher Flight 1's complicated (for me!) instructions on how to download and install the program...(shades of REX and GE Pro!)... Wink

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Early impressions are quite good... Wink

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Improvements to the coast lines, and inland water-ways...(The Sacramento River and Central Valley flood plains are better represented!).
Water ways (rivers, lakes, and ponds, etc, are now equal to FSX).
Major and minor roads, (with stationary traffic).
Complete Railway line systems.
The scenery in parts, seems to be a mix of Photo scenery with added Autogen objects. (I don't particularly like photographic scenery, especially at low level).....
....but as the majority of the scenery is Autogen (objects), I can cope with it!
Special night-lighting is incorporated, but I haven't tried it yet...(I'm afraid of the dark!).
Some of the Autogen buildings are displaced (conflict) in certain places, (in water), but there's not a lot that can be done about that, and overall the effect is very good.

Much of the scenery is configurable before starting up the Sim, and a simple click can re-engage your original scenery if required...which is nice!...

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So...
Together with my VOZ, GE Pro, REX, etc, the addition of Ultimate Terrain for North America looks good..so far...and saves me from running my copy of FSX!.... Smiley

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...more news later...

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Paul...FS 2004...and a Google Street Map... Wink

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P.S...it also reveals more Golf Courses than you can shake a No. 5 Iron at!... Shocked

Shocked

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Reply #15 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:16pm

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So you had success installing it into your existing fs2004 install? When I tried to install it I got the dreaded dual coast lines and all in all I had a less then stellar experience. Thats why i think Ill wait till I have to reinstall before I make another stab at it.

Sean

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Reply #16 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:57pm

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jack_ryan wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:16pm:

So you had success installing it into your existing fs2004 install? When I tried to install it I got the dreaded dual coast lines and all in all I had a less then stellar experience. Thats why i think Ill wait till I have to reinstall before I make another stab at it.

Sean

I was going to hang off for a while, Sean...

...but after days of fiddling about, I was surprised to find that I had finally got the complete download to work successfully then the next step was to purchase it, and install it, before I lost everything again!

Some Autogen objects are displaced; (bridges over rivers, buildings in water, etc.)

That Flight 1 over-complicated method of downloading and installing their programs will one day be the death of me!... Grin

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Paul....anyone for Golf?... Roll Eyes

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Reply #17 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 6:29am

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..a little bit of a shame so far...

Because of the greater accuracy? of the inland water-ways and roads, most, if not all, of the default, Autogen road/rail bridges are displaced, in respect of the roads, and width of the water-ways.
The default Autogen bridges can be omitted via UT, but this also makes the scenery unrealistic.
The best part of UT, for me, is the correct display of water-ways, (similar to FSX?) coast and inland.
The default road system is slightly enhanced, and include more urban and country-side roads.
Night-time lighting is enhanced, but most/all of my GA flights are carried out during daylight hours.
A bit of tinkering with the water textures/colours, using REX (FS2004), is worth experimenting with.
And, of course, VOZ 1.8 (free for FS 2004), with its lovely Season colours, and gorgeous Koorbygen buildings, is always a must-have!

So...with all my various add-ons, FS 2004 is getting more and more delightful, day by day!... Kiss

Kiss

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Its just a shame about the bloody bridges!... Cry

Cry

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Grin

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Paul...FS 2004...aka; Isambard Kingdom Brunel... Wink

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Reply #18 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 10:59am

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Paul.

You might be interested in- http://www.qlrp4ut.com/

cheers,
Joe

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Reply #19 - Feb 16^th, 2012 at 11:22am

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JoBee wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 10:59am:

Paul.

You might be interested in- http://www.qlrp4ut.com/

cheers,
Joe

Many thanks, Joe... Smiley

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That perfectly illustrates the "problem" with UT's object placements.
I'll have a good-old read through that, and see what can be done.
Very interesting...

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Thanks again, Joe!... Wink

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Paul...FS 2004...

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Reply #20 - Feb 17^th, 2012 at 6:13am

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Its a bit of a shame, but I've had to switch off all the FS 2004 default Bridges to get the UT roads to appear correctly over the various UT water-ways...
..this means, for me, losing Golden Gate Bridge, Bay Bridge, Dumbarton Bridge, and the various Sacramento River road and rail bridges, etc... Cry

Cry

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..sacrifices... Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

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Wink

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Paul....FS 2004...bridge-less!... Roll Eyes

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Thinks... Roll Eyes

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...might be worth-while using my copy of Abacus FS 2004, FS EZ Scenery, Scenery Designer to replace, and place the missing bridges, etc, using the default FS 2004 Objects contained in the FS 2004 Library for my favourite areas!... Smiley

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...more work involved... Wink

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Reply #21 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 3:34pm

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So is it worth it Paul? I am looking into some payware to spice up FS2004. UT NA seems to be a good idea, but I am also looking for a good scenery-placer for my fly-in project and maybe even AI traffic editor.

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Reply #22 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 4:02pm

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A good flight plan creator/editor-AIFP-here:http://stuff4fs.com/open.asp?Folder=AIFP&JS=TRUE-has an excellent help file. Freeware

Scenery object placers:

Rwy12 Object Placer Program v1.2-http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=rwy12+object+placer&categoryId=-Download program and 3 library collections. Freeware. Many other object libraries available.

Flight1's Instant Scenery 2-Payware-demo available-Easy to use as you place objects while in the sim, so 'wysiwyg'. Can place objects from any 'object libraries', including FS9 default, Rwy12 and EZ-Scenery libraries.

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Reply #23 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 4:40pm

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wahubna wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 3:34pm:

So is it worth it Paul? I am looking into some payware to spice up FS2004. UT NA seems to be a good idea, but I am also looking for a good scenery-placer for my fly-in project and maybe even AI traffic editor.

The main things I like about UT USA, are all the detailed placements of all the Interstate Highways and major and minor roads, Railways, and correct waterways, eg; inland rivers, lakes, and coastal lines.
Cities, etc, are also well represented.
(I've managed to live without the bridges).
This afternoon I followed the highly detailed, multi-carriageway, Interstate Highway 101 from San Francisco to San Diego, at 2-3000 Feet AGL, exactly as it appears on Google Street Map.
Next run will be Route 66 from Chicago to Santa Monica!
It works very well, but note that because the rivers (wider) and roads (locations) are more accurately placed in UT, the default (size/placement) bridge objects do not match up with the scenery!
The bridges can be omitted in the UT Menu selection if required.
Overall, I am quite pleased with it, it matches the Google maps much better.
Its ideal for low-level explorations!

Not bad, for around £20!...

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Goes well with my GE Pro, REX, and VOX 1.8, plus a few additional free-bee, scenery, bits and bobs!

Paul...FS 2004... Smiley

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Reply #24 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 11:02pm

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Sweet Paul! I might have to invest in that soon too. I am thinking of rewarding myself on spring break with some payware. The way classes have gone this semester I am surprised I still have hair! Grin

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Undecided

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So some more eye candy in the sim will be much appreciated.

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Reply #25 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

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I'M trying HOWARD mix but I'm kinda concered I have WIN7
WITH SP2 I can't even get a kneeboard to work and the
only seneries is lonely bgl's,Will UT WORK WITH WIN7Feb 20^th, 2012 at 5:59pm

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Reply #26 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 7:30pm

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R.D.W. wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

I'M trying HOWARD mix but I'm kinda concered I have WIN7
WITH SP2 I can't even get a kneeboard to work and the
only seneries is lonely bgl's,Will UT WORK WITH WIN7Feb 20^th, 2012 at 5:59pm

My copy of "Ultimate Terrain USA" for FS 2004, works fine with my Windows 7, Home Edition, 32 bit.

Paul...FS 2004... Cool

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http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=utusa

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Reply #27 - Feb 21^st, 2012 at 3:25am

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Hello R D W...

Thanks for the tip...
I didn't install "Howard's Mix", for fear of it overriding my many existing scenery add-ons... Wink

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I installed UT USA instead.

Paul...

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Tip: delete your e-mail address from your post above, to deter spammers to your e-mail in-box... Wink

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Reply #28 - Feb 21^st, 2012 at 11:41am

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FOZZER
I know you don't know me but stay with UT I tried the
HOWARD'S MIX AND it is a nightmare to remove it don't show
up in add&remove I tried system restore and that didn't work
I finally had to manually remove delteing one section at a
time,I'm just trying to save you a headache and a pain
somewhere else.GOOD LUCK WITH THE UT.I'M SURE YOUR
LIKE ANYBODY ELSE YOU HATE IT WHEN IT DON'T WORK!! Angry

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Reply #29 - Feb 22^nd, 2012 at 3:42pm

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I'M glad I caught you before, I even had another member try
to send you a message before you installed It if I can save
somebody the headache I have already been through I will do my best to do so.Fozzer can you let me know a little
bit about UT does it have a self installer??

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Reply #30 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 2:49pm

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Reading through this thread got me looking at REX.....anyone care to offer up a bit of a review, I might just have to get it, assuming other people are happy with it.
your thoughts would be appreciated.
Cheers
Romflyer

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Reply #31 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 3:01pm

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Romflyer wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 2:49pm:

Reading through this thread got me looking at REX.....anyone care to offer up a bit of a review, I might just have to get it, assuming other people are happy with it.
your thoughts would be appreciated.
Cheers
Romflyer

I cant imagine anyone not being happy with REX!... Grin

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I don't suppose there are many Folks without it now!... Wink

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http://www.realenvironmentxtreme.com/fs9.html

..also...Don't forget VOZ 1.8 for FS 2004..(Its FREE!)

Paul... Cool

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Reply #32 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 5:08pm

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Well then I guess I better get on with it Wink

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As for VOZ..... I have it installed, but I never activate it....I prefer my GE pro textures, and I usually fly in and around the west coast of Canada which has mostly evergreen trees but VOZ seems to only have deciduous trees and it really screws up the look of the sim.
Anyways it looks like I'll have to dust off the old credit card......again Shocked

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Romflyer wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 5:08pm:

Well then I guess I better get on with it Wink

Wink

As for VOZ..... I have it installed, but I never activate it....I prefer my GE pro textures, and I usually fly in and around the west coast of Canada which has mostly evergreen trees but VOZ seems to only have deciduous trees and it really screws up the look of the sim.
Anyways it looks like I'll have to dust off the old credit card......again Shocked

Shocked

Re VOZ...

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I use it throughout the World, and set the texture "colours" for the time of the year...

Regarding the Tree-types, I would assume that they would depend upon which types of Autogen trees you have installed in the Sim Texture Library.
I experiment with downloading and installing different tree-types.
At the moment I have Gerrish Gray's Tree-set from Sim V.
VOZ only affects ground textures and colours.

For green, deciduous areas I select VOZ Northern Territory.
For dry-ish areas I select VOZ South-Western Territory.
That takes care of the colours and textures in the other parts of the World I fly.

Paul...FS 2004, FS Global SE, REX, GE Pro, VOZ 1.8, UT USA, and some Palm Trees... Grin

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Reply #34 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 6:54pm

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Well I would have only expected it to effect textures as well but it clearly has F'd up all my autogen trees into deciduous ....fruit trees!! when I was clearly expecting to see some big beautiful conifers Roll Eyes

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Reply #35 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 4:40am

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Romflyer wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 6:54pm:

Well I would have only expected it to effect textures as well but it clearly has F'd up all my autogen trees into deciduous ....fruit trees!! when I was clearly expecting to see some big beautiful conifers Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Hello Rom...

If you want to experience large areas of green, deciduous vegetation, try loading up; VOZ "Northern Territory"....
...lots of "greenery" there!
I find it useful for representing the State of Oregon, Washington, etc, northwards.

Paul.... Cool

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