Simviation Forum - Is it still worth it??

Reply #15 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 3:55pm

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Really,how cool is that! Btw is fs2004 working with windows 7. Do i have to make a extra map fs2004 in my program files, just like fsx? Wat grappig dat je uit nederland komt jetprop!!!

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Reply #16 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 5:48pm

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I really like FS9. In fact, a lot of the programs and aircraft that have been developed for FSX, are now being retrofitted to work in FS9. Programs like AFX, REX, Heli-Traffic 2009 are all retrofitted. Carenado, A2A, Flight1, etc, all have a bunch of nice aircraft for FS9 along with all of the freeware aircraft available. Of course, you can use AFCAD, TTools, WoAI, UGA, and other programs without jumping through the FSX "hoops" also. So, basically, you have all of the same weather engines, graphics (to certain degree), nice aircraft and traffic as FSX - and the performance is muuuch better.

I use FSX as my primary sim, but there are still some aircraft that perform much better in FS9, mostly warbirds and some specialty aircraft. The one thing that I don't like about FS9, is that I can't use my throttle quadrant to control the mixture - I have to click/roll on it with the mouse. The throttle and prop levers work fine, but the mixture lever doesn't, which after you get used to "flying" with a full quadrant, it becomes a bit of nuisance reverting back to using a mouse for that singe control. All in all, I think FS9 is definately worth the time and effort to have and enjoy. Hope this helps...

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Reply #17 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 6:05pm

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Raoul98 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2012 at 3:55pm:

Really,how cool is that! Btw is fs2004 working with windows 7. Do i have to make a extra map fs2004 in my program files, just like fsx? Wat grappig dat je uit nederland komt jetprop!!!

It works fine in Windows 7. Just insert the Disk(s) and follow the instructions. Install it the same as you did for your FSX. I will create a separate FS9 Folder. You will then have two folders FSX, and FS9!

As New Light says, there are lots and lots of freeware add-ons to make FS 2004 a Joy to fly!

Have fun with FS 2004!

Paul..FS 2004 and FSX... Cool

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Reply #18 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 7:05pm

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Oh, yeah, I'm running both on Windows 7 Home Premium. No probs. Disc #4 needed to run FS9

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Reply #19 - Jan 22^nd, 2012 at 3:55am

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Thanks! Givd the 3 best jet airliners freeware for fs9

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Reply #20 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 2:36am

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I've only had FS2004 for about 13 months, but one of the best airliners I've come across is the Tinmouse 737-200.

Search for TINMOUSE_II_V1_25.ZIP on flightsim.com

I have a few other links, I'll just have to dig them out.

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Reply #21 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 5:26am

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The Tinmouse is fantastic, but it has no virtual cockpit to my great despair (I love the 737 with its original small engines!)

The best liners I can think about for FS9 are the following:
- the Trident II and III from Dave Maltby at http://www.dmflightsim.co.uk/
- the Comet from Dave Maltby at http://www.dmflightsim.co.uk/
- the BAC 1-11 from Dave Maltby at http://www.dmflightsim.co.uk/
The three planes above are classic airliners. They all have nice external models with a lot of different textures, and they have fantastic virtual cockpits, some of the best ever made for FS9.

- the 747 "Ready for Pushback", which is an ex-payware plane, with a very detailled virtual cockpit. It's an early variant of the 747.
- the 747 made by iFly. It also have a extremely detailled virtual cockpit. It's a modern variant of the 747.

When it comes to propliners, there are some good choices too:
- the HS-748 from Rick Piper (excellent external model, magnificient virtual cockpit)
- the various Constellation variants by Manfred Jahn

There are many more, of course Wink

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Reply #22 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 7:00am

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Raoul98 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2012 at 3:55pm:

Really,how cool is that! Btw is fs2004 working with windows 7. Do i have to make a extra map fs2004 in my program files, just like fsx? Wat grappig dat je uit nederland komt jetprop!!!

Hi,

Sorry, but can you explain what the extra map you made for FS.X is about Huh

I have a new system with Windows 7 and I loaded FS.X in and it works fine. I've not had to change anything other than I loaded it it a non default location. Undecided

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Reply #23 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 7:23am

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garryrussell wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 7:00am:

Raoul98 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2012 at 3:55pm:

Really,how cool is that! Btw is fs2004 working with windows 7. Do i have to make a extra map fs2004 in my program files, just like fsx? Wat grappig dat je uit nederland komt jetprop!!!

Hi,

Sorry, but can you explain what the extra map you made for FS.X is about Huh

I have a new system with Windows 7 and I loaded FS.X in and it works fine. I've not had to change anything other than I loaded it it a non default location. Undecided

Garry....I think he means; "an extra Folder" for FS 2004... Wink

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A Folder for FS 2004 is created automatically during the installation process, (as it is for FSX).

Just insert the installation Disk, and follow the instructions on the screen.

Paul.... Cool

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Reply #24 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 1:27pm

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I've read something about that. it said: you have to make a folder that's called fsx and you have to install fsx in that folder, otherwise it won't work. Only for Windows 7.
so i was wondering if that is the same with fs2004?

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Reply #25 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 1:39pm

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Raoul98 wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 1:27pm:

I've read something about that. it said: you have to make a folder that's called fsx and you have to install fsx in that folder, otherwise it won't work. Only for Windows 7.
so i was wondering if that is the same with fs2004?

I have Windows 7 home Edition, and I have no problems installing my FS 2004 into the default "Program Files", where a FS9 Folder is automatically generated.

I would just insert the installation Disk and let it install into Program Files automatically...

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If the program asks you if you want it to generate a FS9 Folder for you, just click yes!

Paul...

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Its also interesting to notice that I never have any problems installing my FSX into; "Program Files, as well!...FSX runs with no problems at all, together with any add-ons!... Wink

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Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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Reply #26 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 1:54pm

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Fozzer wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 1:39pm:

Raoul98 wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 1:27pm:

I've read something about that. it said: you have to make a folder that's called fsx and you have to install fsx in that folder, otherwise it won't work. Only for Windows 7.
so i was wondering if that is the same with fs2004?

I have Windows 7 home Edition, and I have no problems installing my FS 2004 into the default "Program Files", where a FS9 Folder is automatically generated.

I would just insert the installation Disk and let it install into Program Files automatically...

...!

Paul...

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Its also interesting to notice that I never have any problems installing my FSX into; "Program Files, as well!...FSX runs with no problems at all, together with any add-ons!... Wink

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I'm still on good ol' WinXP* but I understand the reason behind this is to avoid problems with the security features of Win7. This only affects FS when trying to edit files; adding repaints etc.

*My own MS sims are installed outside the Program Files directory. The path is short & sweet C:\FS9 & C:\FSX. Cool

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Reply #27 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 3:40pm

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So If i want to add repaints, then its smart to make a new folder in program files and instal FSX or Fs2004 in that folder. Sometimes i have probblems installing repaints on my vista pc. It sais: your not Authorised and then i have to switch off a security thing.

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Reply #28 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 3:46pm

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Raoul98 wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 3:40pm:

So If i want to add repaints, then its smart to make a new folder in program files and instal FSX or Fs2004 in that folder.

No! Install FS9 or FSX anywhere but the C:\Programs Files folder. I suggest C:\FS9 or C:\FSX

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Sometimes i have probblems installing repaints on my vista pc. It sais: your not Authorised and then i have to switch off a security thing.

That's the security problem I was talking about. Vista & Win7 treat all files in the Program Files directory as protected files. That includes your FS CFG files.

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Reply #29 - Jan 23^rd, 2012 at 3:57pm

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Hagar it doesn't matter if you install fsx in the default location. It will ask for permission every time you try to do something but that can be easily fixed.

Right click on the folder that fsx is in and click properties & un-tick the box read-only & press Apply. Now it won't ask for permission when you try to install repaints & planes.

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