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I agree. Actually I'll take it a step further. In my opinion, on the average mid-end gaming system of the day, FSX actually looked worse than a highly modified FS9 and ran worse. In my opinion, that was completely unacceptable. I'll tell you now, even the best computers of the day were probably not even capable of running FSX properly at the settings the screenshots were taken at. That and the DX10 picture was faked (remember this?) which was misleading. And I agree that it's misleading that they have screenshots of the few areas that have really good graphics, then say they have 24,000 airports which do not have this level of quality... however... with that said...

It is totally unreasonable for MSFS to have every single aircraft at PMDG quality, and all airports at orbx level, while still selling the sim for $60. We have addons because we can expand on what Microsoft did. We can make it better and far more realistic than vanilla MSFS.

Exactly why I posted my last comment. The much maligned Microsoft will not be able to deliver a complete platform in Flight because of external pressures. On the other hand and contrary to popular opinion, I think FSX and Acc. were brilliant pieces of work that challenged simmers to climb to newer heights. People are still buying FSX to this day. And then they migrate to the forums for advice as I did. 

Even if MS shuts out FSX .mdl, there will always be FSX. It will still be around the same way FS2004 is still very much alive and kicking.

as far as 3rd party designers and M$'s control over how new products are released, M$ Flight App store for example only....... being that we the people are not owned by micro$oft and none of us are idiots by any means... Who said that we the people MUST upload our designs to THEIR download store (be it freeware or payware) and THEY control the app/download item from there. 

Once flight comes out and the developers start pouring over the data and digging into its bowels to find out the code that makes it run...  Here, Avsim, Flightsim.com EVERYWHERE will have to change just a little bit to offer the new section for ONLY FLIGHT DOWNLOADS, just like it did to offer FSX downloads, CFS, XPLANE, etc.   We will just have a new section for us to download from.


And for the forums?? We are not going away. We are still gonna come back here and whine and complain ... "HOW DO I INSTALL THIS!? HOW DO I MAKE THAT WORK!? WHY WHY WHY WHY!? WHY CANT I DO ILS LANDINGS.. SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO DO IT" -- GOOGLE PEOPLE... GOOGLE it does have a search feature! Yes, we will tell you how, but there are stickies about it, there are 500 tutorials (written and youtube videos to watch)..... hell there is even a section IN THE LEARNING CENTER THAT TEACHES YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These forums are not going anywhere. They will always remain for those that dont know what they are doing, and every day more and more forums keep popping up for so that the same information that is already out there, can be spread around a little more and be more helpful.





back in 2004 i got FS9 on the suggestion of someone that I worked with at US AIR in KCHS.  I thought it was the best program ever. couldnt run it for squat due to FPS was getting 3. the guy told me about SURCLARO so i started over there; now I have the computer listed below, and I can get 70FPS everything maxed out with 50GB of downloads.  ended up having some MAJOR problems over there, and heard about SIMV.  So I checked this place out, and now I found a new family.   I love it here, and I seriously dont see it going anywhere, other than adapting to the changing times to give out the new FLIGHT (M$ Crash) downloads because developers can and will choose WHO to give their stuff to, and we as people will figure out how to install it, even if that means.................................. READ THE @#$%^&*( READ ME FILE !!!!!!!!!!

Boikat wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 11:32am:

You're forgetting one little thing. Freeware developers rely on tools included with the appropriate SDK to produce addons for FS9 & FSX. Now, supposing the Flight SDK is restricted to approved developers who pay for the privilege, only they will be able to use it.

Hagar wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:



Then there is still FSX, FS9... Besides, I really don't think MS marketing is so stupid that they would intentionally shut out one of the main reason people still buy FSX, or FS9, or even older versions.

Boikat wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 2:48pm:

Time will tell. We'll see who's right when it's released.

In the meantime, it's all pure supposition based on the deliberately vague comments posted on the MS Flight website.
For example:
Q: How does Games for Windows – LIVE factor in?

A: Games for Windows – LIVE introduces a new level of connectivity to virtual flight, enhancing both the social and game play experiences of the title. Content is updated virtually. You can fly solo or join an entire global flight community online. You can easily connect with and facilitate flight experiences with your friends. The addition of Games for Windows - LIVE creates an ubiquitous virtual world of flight that offers easy and engaging access to the magic of flight for all.

You can read into that whatever you like. Games for Windows® Marketplace