Don't know... I think because Newtonian gravity needs both bodies to have mass for one to affected by the other and the distortion theory doesn't...
I still have a lot to learn on this... Good thing I'm taking a physics engineering course! 

Correct on many things Groundbound1.  I don't think from my knowledge of quantum mechanics and quantum physics that I could find any flaws in all that except for two possible things.
1.  "light itself breaks Einstien's theory"  well, what if the impossibility only applies to solid objects that are above the level of being classified under quantum mechanics/physics?  Becuase remember, light also acts as a wave.

2. "as an object approaches the speed of light, it becomes more massive" Here, I think you may have just misunderstood.  According to Einstein, the closer something goes to the speed of light, the more mass it gains.  think realative to the mass that is closely related to weight, not size.  And actually, he also hypothesized the the closer to the speed of light you go, the more the object will actually decrease in length realative to the direction it's heading.

(If you're wondering, I read STRANGE things for my age.)

But of light having mass:
One example of light having mass is black holes.  I would go on explaining the entire possible processes of black holes as Stephen Hawkings says, but that would take up way too much space and probably exceed the character limit, but basically, according to Stephen Hawkings, black holes are usually quite small, have an absolutely HUGE mass, and have such a strong gravitational pull that light cannot escape.  The only things that escape from black holes are X-rays and gamma rays. (if you want a much more in-depth description, let me know)

But all in all, I'm loving all this talk about passing the speed of light and am quite exited.

All I hope is, from what I've heard, if you can travel at/past the speed of light, you can travel through time.  I'm worryed about someone actually trying to do that.  With that, you could deal with time loops, lunatics trying to bring back something like the 3rd Riech or something like that.(I think i spelled that right)  And also, a slight change in the past can massively alter the future.

Club508 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 4:16pm:


The equivalent to squeeze the entire earth until the atom's themselves collapse, that is, until the earth is the size of a small glass marble. But anyways, why do you keep saying that for light to be affected by gravity it must have mass?
I know a little of newtonian physics but the space fabric distortion seems a bit more complex, but simple at the same time, if we take the universe's shape as a 4 dimensional sphere. In the space-time fabric does the second body still need to have mass to be gravitationaly affected by the body with more mass?

Here:
Quote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon

So, if what I quoted above is true, then the speed of light hasn't been breached because if photons have mass they can't travel at c...

Groundbound1 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:41pm:

Heck, problem is that's confusing all of us between all our seperate theories due to all our seperate resaerch is this.  I don't think I have ever ONCE read anything about sience that said anything about theories with this, and state them as facts.  By the way, I have absolutely no idea who Michio Kaku is.  i haven't even ever heard his name before.  And that's a perfect example of all the flawed theorys on flawed theorys on flawed theorys and so on and so on.  And then all those theorys could be based on something mistaken due to someone stating something like its a fact when it's really only a theory and thus convincing anyone else who reads it that it's a fact.
And I only thought of all that after what I posted.

All in all, too confusing, and with too many theorys.



But atleast it's nice to see I'm not the only... errrr..... "Science Geek"  around here.
Couldn't think of a better term to fit so I just went with that.

Groundbound1 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 10:29pm:

Eh, No problem.  I end up editing about 1/2 my posts once I post them.


Groundbound1 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 10:29pm:

Same here.
Although we might want to stop quoting each other.

expat wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 8:38pm:


hyperpep111 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 11:03pm:

Oh my, even more connections between me and hyperprep!

And I never would have noticed there were as many fellow nerds/geeks on here.