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Aug 26^th, 2011 at 9:31pm

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Quote from: http://www.x-plane.com/news/

August 25, 2011

X-Plane v10 for desktop is coming!

We have now finalized the X-Plane 10 release schedule for Macintosh, Windows, and Linux desktop computers! X-Plane 10 will be available on Christmas of 2011, at which time you will be able to order X-Plane from www.X-Plane.com!

Well well, the overdue rival has risen to the occasion... mayhaps our weary beast will rouse it's mighty graces to the cry of battle? Wink

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Cheers,

« Last Edit: Aug 27^th, 2011 at 1:02am by patchz »

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Reply #1 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 9:43pm

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Wow... I can no longer spell... I guess it's from all the waiting. Release. One 'A'. Re-Lease. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 1:12am

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Spindrift wrote on Aug 26^th, 2011 at 9:43pm:

Wow... I can no longer spell... I guess it's from all the waiting. Release. One 'A'. Re-Lease. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Grin

I fixed it for you.

Competition is the name of the game. Monopoly is never a good thing except for the company that holds one, and even that is questionable.

I already said in Steve's "Place Your Bets" thread, that I think MS will release Christmas 2011. I think they have planned for it all along. But I'm still not convinced I will like it,

and have way too much invested in FSX to just stop using it and switch to a new version that won't allow me to use my payware addons.

As to X-Plane, I may try it one day, but doubt I will ever convert.

If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.

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Reply #3 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 10:22am

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patchz wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 1:12am:

......and have way too much invested in FSX to just stop using it and switch to a new version that won't allow me to use my payware addons.

I'm in that state for FS2004..... on the switch to FSX.

So even if Flight is released soon....... it will be YEARS before I might be ready to switch... if ever. I still have to experience all the crap that FSX has to offer (not that it really sounds like anything more than a headache from reading people's experinces).

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Reply #4 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm

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I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

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Reply #5 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:37pm

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I know how you feel, John. I've got to the state where I can run FSX relatively reasonably on my Vaio - but I still prefer to actually fly in FS9 not only because of the addons, but also the instruments: FSNav, TCAS, freeware FMSs etc etc.

This is for heavy metal of course, because there's little difference in the sims when your altitude begins with 'FL'. I rarely fly the small stuff...

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Reply #6 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 5:30pm

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

I agee.
Also, MS has the advertising resourses to promote Flight.

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Reply #7 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 5:38pm

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

You might be underestimating the amount of FSX/FS9'ers that are interested in XPlane.

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Got damage ?

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Reply #8 - Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:27pm

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Every one is forgetting about flightgear, again. But M$ really should try and get up to people's expectations. But ofcourse they cannot please everybody

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Reply #9 - Aug 28^th, 2011 at 12:50pm

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hyperpep111 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:

Every one is forgetting about flightgear, again. But M$ really should try and get up to people's expectations. But of course they cannot please everybody

FlightGear suffers of gratuitous bad press syndrome, and even if totally free of any charge, the greater part of those who read said letdowns decided to never try it... not that having never tried it has stopped them to join the letdown parade themselves, anyway... I just wish people would NOT speak of the things they know nothing about.

There is no such a thing as overkill. Only unworthy targets.

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Reply #10 - Aug 28^th, 2011 at 3:20pm

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

In the end, it doesn't matter who has the bigger audience. It's who has the better sim

Cheers,
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Reply #11 - Aug 28^th, 2011 at 4:13pm

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Rocket_Bird wrote on Aug 28^th, 2011 at 3:20pm:

BrandonF wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

In the end, it doesn't matter who has the bigger audience. It's who has the better sim

I need a dollar worth of that sense Cheesy

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Cool

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Reply #12 - Aug 29^th, 2011 at 2:31pm

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Honestly, I don't give two hoots about Xplane or Flight Gear. They can frustrate people as much as FSX did. I still predict Flight will emerge spring of 2012. My original 'guess' was Feb 2012. MS is being quiet for the time being and I'm guessing it's because they are getting to much negative feedback and want to curb that before the release. Just my opinion.

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Reply #13 - Aug 29^th, 2011 at 4:47pm

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Strategic Retreat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2011 at 12:50pm:

...I just wish people would NOT speak of the things they know nothing about.

I guess I just asked too much. Lips Sealed

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There is no such a thing as overkill. Only unworthy targets.

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Reply #14 - Aug 29^th, 2011 at 6:12pm

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Strategic Retreat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2011 at 12:50pm:

...I just wish people would NOT speak of the things they know nothing about.

Ummm....who's the one writing paragraphs about how "Flight will = disaster" based off of no information? Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Steve M wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 2:31pm:

Honestly, I don't give two hoots about Xplane or Flight Gear. They can frustrate people as much as FSX did. I still predict Flight will emerge spring of 2012. My original 'guess' was Feb 2012. MS is being quiet for the time being and I'm guessing it's because they are getting to much negative feedback and want to curb that before the release. Just my opinion.

I agree. The hatred towards Flight by some of the community has been kind of unbelievable. Shocked

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Reply #15 - Aug 29^th, 2011 at 8:59pm

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 6:12pm:

Strategic Retreat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2011 at 12:50pm:

...I just wish people would NOT speak of the things they know nothing about.

Ummm....who's the one writing paragraphs about how "Flight will = disaster" based off of no information? Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Wrong.

My speculation you summarized so inaccurately is based on what we DO know.

BrandonF wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 6:12pm:

I agree. The hatred towards Flight by some of the community has been kind of unbelievable. Shocked

Shocked

If you put me among those you accuse of hatred, you are misconstruing (willingly or not) a meaning that is not the one I was trying to get across.

I am, and remain a hopeful for Flight, but a desperate one. If you read my posts accurately you'll see I

NEVER

talked about the technical part of the yet to come successor of Flight Simulator, as there is nothing but speculations about it still, and I DO NOT TALK OF WHAT I DO NOT KNOW.

What I despair about... what EVERY FS user worth his/her/its salt despairs about... is the almost sure news about Flight's add-ons management and the fact that there's NOTHING that indicates M$ rethinking their bad judgment of wanting to transform what was an openly customizable simulator in another locked down game that could be ported verbatim on a X-BOX with little to no problem, and that, let me tell you, is

WORRYING

.

Of course I foresee the hard core simmers (among whose roll call I have the high honor of finding my name) searching other pastures, if the new Flight becomes a game designed to spill dough from the users in the post market first and foremost, and then all the rest... MAYBE... if they have the time...

I search a simulator, among flight games Crimson Skies, Airfix Dogfighter and the Combat Flight Simulator brand, still entertain me perfectly and I do not need a replacement.

As it is, I still hope it will not be such... but, as already stated elsewhere, I am a fan of having a "plan B" if things go south, too. A "plan B" that I always hope desperately to the last moment to never have to use. And this mindset has ALWAYS served me well in the past.

Hope I was clearer this time.

PS
My complains in the other two posts in this thread were about people who never, and I underline

NEVER

tried, EVEN ONCE in their lifetime, either X-plane nor FlightGear but are so fond of spouting their mouths off about what they obviously DO NOT KNOW, painting themselves as experts THEY ARE

NOT

. Get your mind straightened up. I was not talking about Flight.

There is no such a thing as overkill. Only unworthy targets.

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Reply #16 - Aug 31^st, 2011 at 10:12am

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Why does almost every single thing on The M$flight topic turn Into an argument between Strategic Retreat and BrandonF Undecided

Undecided

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Renè

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Reply #17 - Aug 31^st, 2011 at 12:55pm

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We really shouldn't take up misconstrued data from unreleased flight sims and bringing that up to the front for senseless argument and finger pointing.

Neither X-Plane 10 nor Flight has fully shown their wings yet, and unless your a beta tester or some QA agent working for their developers, none of you have touched the two products yet either.

When it comes down to it, I think most sensible buyers won't care whether the products are released by Laminar Research or Microsoft. I know I wouldn't be. The next generation flight sim will depend on product offering and what kind of goodies are in store to fill our virtual aviation delights and whether or not the developers royally screw up on a design process. Still, I'm sure each product will have their fair share of followers as it has been.

Flight simming is more or less just a hobby. For some it's more, but it's still just a little computer program. Let's not get too worked up.

Cheers,
RB

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Reply #18 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 11:11am

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I did buy X-Plane 9 this past summer. I have FSX and FS2004 on my laptop and run both a lot. I am an aeronautical engineering student so the idea of easily creating custom planes IN SIM was very appealing so I bought X-Plane. I refuse to even look at the box after 3 flights in it and hours working on the controls. The flight dynamics are simply horrible!!!! According to X-Plane, a fully loaded Cessna 182 can take off at 60kts (with out raising the nose) and instantly roll inverted with a roll rate that would make an Extra jealous. I could do tight turns with 90 degrees of bank easily. So I was doing tight figure 8's over my home town airport at 80kts in a 182! The Eclipse jet also acted very very odd. Oh, and the visuals at the medium setting (for max frame rate but still high visuals) looked like shit, eventhough the weather was clear, there was a weird haze that clouded everything and the lake next to my town (Lake Macatawa) was made into a pond when its actually a fairly big lake! The airport too was not that great, the radio was annoying as hell. Yes it sounded more realistic but it kept repeated itself over and over and over. So basically I will stay away from X-Plane 10 to the point that I will cover my eyes when I see it on the shelves in stores. FSX has plenty of bugs as does FS9, but X-plane has bad UI, bad visuals compared to FS9 at comparable setting and frame rates, horrible flight dynamics, and the cockpits too sucked. This is learned after $20 and several days screwing around with the freaking thing. Thankfully FS9 was there waiting for me since I felt violated after my X-Plane experience and very confused.

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Reply #19 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 2:08pm

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Why does almost every single thing on The M$flight topic turn Into an argument between Strategic Retreat and BrandonF

I have been through various threads and see no argument of any bad nature.

My god! What are forums for? To ask questions. To find information. To air thoughts - especially for those who take a hobby seriously - and MSFS was built on people taking it seriously enough to get involved and contribute.

There are no flame wars. For those of you who do not like reading negative thoughts or hearing debate - maybe you should ask yourself what kind of country you'd like to be living in. Strikes me as maybe 'fairyland' ..... Cool

Cool

Debate, thoughts from all sides, fears discussed -- FCOL that's what forums are for!

Think Global. It's the world we live in.

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Reply #20 - Sep 17^th, 2011 at 2:46pm

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pete wrote on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

Quote:

Why does almost every single thing on The M$flight topic turn Into an argument between Strategic Retreat and BrandonF

I have been through various threads and see no argument of any bad nature.

My god! What are forums for? To ask questions. To find information. To air thoughts - especially for those who take a hobby seriously - and MSFS was built on people taking it seriously enough to get involved and contribute.

There are no flame wars. For those of you who do not like reading negative thoughts or hearing debate - maybe you should ask yourself what kind of country you'd like to be living in. Strikes me as maybe 'fairyland' ..... Cool

Cool

Debate, thoughts from all sides, fears discussed -- FCOL that's what forums are for!

Actually It was an attempt at humour that clearly was misunderstood Embarrassed

Embarrassed

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But I do agree with that and It's quite interesting cause you learn things School will never teach you Cool

Cool

. I actually don't mind reading negative comments at all.

On another note, I hope there's a demo version Tongue

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Reply #21 - Dec 24^th, 2011 at 10:20am

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

I agree there are many people who havent heard of X-plane although people have it on Iphones/Ipods but not on computer

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Reply #22 - Jan 1^st, 2012 at 3:37pm

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BrandonF wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 2:08pm:

I really don't think X-Plane poses a threat to Flight at all. The audience that will want Flight is SO MUCH bigger than those that have even heard of X-Plane.

Whats X-plane again? Smiley

No I'm just kidding.

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Reply #23 - Jan 2^nd, 2012 at 9:02am

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What about ' ProFlight Simulator ' ?
Has anyone bought it or tried it out? How does it stand up agianst other flight sims? It looks to be a good buy at £30 but you're never quite sure of course.

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Reply #24 - Jan 2^nd, 2012 at 11:26am

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jon157uk wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2012 at 9:02am:

What about ' ProFlight Simulator ' ?
Has anyone bought it or tried it out? How does it stand up agianst other flight sims? It looks to be a good buy at £30 but you're never quite sure of course.

See here: /yabb?num=1258502262

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