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Aug 23rd, 2011 at 5:44am

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Hi

I'm 14 now, and not sure what I want to do as a career. I want to do something which involves commercial jets (eg. 777s) but I don't want to be a pilot due to the lack of family time etc.

Any job suggestions? (Preferably with high wages) Smiley

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Reply #1 - Aug 23rd, 2011 at 7:29am

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F35LightningII wrote on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 5:44am:
Hi

I'm 14 now, and not sure what I want to do as a career. I want to do something which involves commercial jets (eg. 777s) but I don't want to be a pilot due to the lack of family time etc.

Any job suggestions? (Preferably with high wages) Smiley

I live in Auckland, NZ and would prefer not having to move since Auckland is awesome. Cheesy



The CEO . I did research that for you and I found That someone else had already asked that question somewhere else. And it seems that a hight voltage cable inspector Really gets paid Shocked. But it takes allot of guts.
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Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2011 at 7:42am

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High wages, yeah everyone wants that.

As for jobs in aviation that are not a pilot:
Airport management (What I do)
Air traffic control
Airport Firefighter (What I also do)
Baggage Handler
Gate Agent
Aircraft mechanic
FAA inspectors
Line crew (fuels the planes)

There are a lot more jobs "behind the scenes" of aviation than there are pilot jobs.
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 23rd, 2011 at 7:44am

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So non-flying jobs around commercials?

There is a wide range of possibilities...

Ground crew - Including engineers, air traffic control, airport security or fire service, cleaning assistants, etc.

Air crew - That is all your inflight stuff. Pilot is the major one, but less commonly now there is navigator/engineer too. However, cockpit crew jobs are usually very expensive to get the right training in; scholarships are rare. The other possibilities include flight attendant or bartender (the latter is uncommon and requires only a couple of staff per flight on very select airlines, in first class, on a few aircraft types).


As with all jobs, the better you are, you higher you get promoted and the more you get paid.

Flight attendants can be paid £20,000-£50,000 a year depending on airline and your own status (head attendant, etc). However, you will go when and where you are needed. It is not a 777 guaranteed career, and no jobs ever will be.

Ground engineers (aircraft, or engine) usually require a lot of further education, and many companies want a 2:1 or better at university in an appropriate degree. I cannot find specific wage details, but £30,000+ seems about right. Many airlines will run scholarship and apprenticeship schemes.


The lack of family time will probably strike you in any job where you're actually on the aircraft... So ground crew jobs where you'll usually be stationed at a single airport seems the best bet. However, if a job needs doing, you'll have to stay until it is done... And that doesn't mean shortcutting to get home!

You're young though, I'm only 18 myself and I remember the ambitions I had to become a pilot from age 13 and 14. After 5 years of waiting, I'm finally readying myself to begin pilot training and to start applying to the Royal Air Force. So I'll let you know what I did; I joined my local Air Training Corps (as far as I know, New Zealand has similar cadet forces) and I was able to build up a few flying hours as well as complete many useful for-life courses.


I would definately reccomend checking out your local cadet forces, and do a lot of research. Find a career area that you think you'd enjoy. Are you a problem solver? Do you like customer support? Are you nearby an airport or somewhere that may let you do work experience? You're at an age where you can't be qualified, but you can show a proactive attitude and show your commitment. If you can find a part time job, that would help a lot for the future. Jobs such as working in customer support (hotel reception, being a waiter, working in a local cafe, etc) just so you can build up your communication skills and all of that.



I hope this is of some use. You're at a good age to have ambitions, but just bear in mind that it will be a few years until you can make a mark and get trained in these areas. So have a think about what area of work you'd enjoy, as you'll be there for a while  Grin
 

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Reply #4 - Aug 24th, 2011 at 10:29pm

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Do you like math and science?  Be an engineer.  If you set your goals right you could work for Boeing if you really wanted.  And the salary is good, expect to start out somewhere around $50,000 a year and go up from there, Aerospace engineer's median salary is something like $110,000 - $120,000 a year. 

At my job (Cessna), I don't really work directly with real aircraft as I'm designing stuff that's years out, but I have lots of opportunities to go to the factory floor and watch planes get built, today I went to a mockup of a planes cabin, and sometime soon my boss is going to get me a test flight on a Citation.  As an engineer you could do all sorts of things, including something called Liason engineering where you basically walk the factory floor and provide solutions to issues.

Long story short: If you want to work with aircraft, AND want money early on, engineering Wink
 

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Reply #5 - Aug 25th, 2011 at 12:58am

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Jayhawk Jake wrote on Aug 24th, 2011 at 10:29pm:
Long story short: If you want to work with aircraft, AND want money early on, engineering Wink



However if you want to work on aircraft then you will not be doing it for the money. I am an inspector on Boeing 737 NG and Dash 8 Q400, whilst the pay in not bad, when you look at a seven day shift, nights, weekends and holidays, then it could be a lot more. Would I do anything else apart from aircraft, no, but I could dump cigar tubes in a heart beat and be a civy back on military aircraft. Civilian aircraft are a step down the ladder Sad

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Reply #6 - Aug 25th, 2011 at 8:21pm

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expat wrote on Aug 25th, 2011 at 12:58am:
Jayhawk Jake wrote on Aug 24th, 2011 at 10:29pm:
Long story short: If you want to work with aircraft, AND want money early on, engineering Wink



However if you want to work on aircraft then you will not be doing it for the money. I am an inspector on Boeing 737 NG and Dash 8 Q400, whilst the pay in not bad, when you look at a seven day shift, nights, weekends and holidays, then it could be a lot more. Would I do anything else apart from aircraft, no, but I could dump cigar tubes in a heart beat and be a civy back on military aircraft. Civilian aircraft are a step down the ladder Sad

Matt


Well if you are the right kind of engineer, you can work on aircraft, but still in a more indirect way. 
 

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Reply #7 - Aug 28th, 2011 at 10:59am

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General Atomics pays outrageous money to be a UAV pilot in Afganistan.  All you need is PPL and Instrument Rating.  But I guess that interferes with your preference to not be away.  Although something you will learn is that if you want to make big bucks, you will need to make sacrifices somewhere.  My friend is an engineer with Boeing and makes plenty of money, but with all the work he is doing, he gives up a lot of his free time for O/T.
 

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Reply #8 - Aug 28th, 2011 at 4:30pm

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Aug 28th, 2011 at 10:59am:
General Atomics pays outrageous money to be a UAV pilot in Afganistan.


There's a good reason for civilian contractors getting paid a lot for any job (certainly not just flying) in Iraq and Afghanistan - and indeed in the surrounding theatre.
 
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Reply #9 - Sep 1st, 2011 at 6:47pm

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Aug 28th, 2011 at 10:59am:
General Atomics pays outrageous money to be a UAV pilot in Afganistan.  All you need is PPL and Instrument Rating.  But I guess that interferes with your preference to not be away.  Although something you will learn is that if you want to make big bucks, you will need to make sacrifices somewhere.  My friend is an engineer with Boeing and makes plenty of money, but with all the work he is doing, he gives up a lot of his free time for O/T.


Overtime varies depending on the company and your job.  I haven't had to do any yet, and I don't really anticipate it anytime soon Tongue
 

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Reply #10 - Sep 4th, 2011 at 12:53am

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Here is some general advice, not just aviation specific. Great pay, Great job, Great location. Pick two. If you want a well paying job in aviation, you will most likely need to move.

I spent 6 years in the Air Force, 3 years in commercial aviation and 3 more in general aviation and I was constantly on the move from place to place, company to company just trying to stay on top of the job market. I was laid off more times than I can count and generally called back. I worked as a mechanic (structural maintenance specialist) and in logistics as a materials manager. I can tell you this, the more education, degrees and certifications you can rack up, the better your pay and the better your job options will be. But you will still be limited to location.

A lot of major companies are laying off engineers at this time because they're getting the ones they keep to multitask to save money. Companies will keep wage earners from collecting overtime but will work salary workers to death.

In the end you can do it two ways. You can do something you love and have fun at it, or you can do something that will make you loads of money. Usually to make loads of money working for someone else, you have to put in so much time and effort that you won't have a lot of personal time and you may not enjoy what you do.

My Papa once told me, "Find something you love to do and find a way to make money doing it." If you're happy with what you do and you can make money doing it then you won't mind putting in lots of hours and will get more reward out of it.

I've worked aviation, IT, electrician (commercial/industrial/residential), security, and now I am self employed as a professional gunsmith. I learned early in life that I love fixing things. I don't really care what I work on, I'm just happy fixing stuff and now I make money (very little) fixing guns and I'm happy with it.
 

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