Simviation Forum - Runway Frequency

Jun 24^th, 2011 at 4:36pm

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Hi all,
In FSX, Manchester Airport has 4 runways, 6L, 6R, 24R & 24L. In the map it has frequencies & runway heading for 6L, 6R, 24R, but not 24L. So when the ATC says 24L is the runway to land on, there's no ILS frequency.
What do I do, can anyone help

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Reply #1 - Jun 24^th, 2011 at 5:00pm

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you either ask for a different runway, or you shoot the "VISUAL APPROACH" .. meaning you actually look out the window to see where you are going and land anyways.

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Reply #2 - Jun 24^th, 2011 at 6:34pm

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You can also utilize the 'Back Course' approach.

(In the sim) Nearly all runways with a single ILS signal will also have a 'back course' signal that can be used for landing on the opposite end.

So, when landing on 24L, tune nav1 to the ils freq for 6R.

There are 2 things that differ when flying a back course.
1-There is no glide slope. You must manually fly the visual glide slope.
2-The CDI needle on the VOR gauge is 'reverse sensing'. You must steer AWAY from the CDI needle to get back on course.

If you engage the [REV] button on the autopilot it will aquire and fly the back course path. You will have to manually fly the visual glide slope.

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Reply #3 - Jun 24^th, 2011 at 10:17pm

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dave3cu wrote on Jun 24^th, 2011 at 6:34pm:

You can also utilize the 'Back Course' approach.

(In the sim) Nearly all runways with a single ILS signal will also have a 'back course' signal that can be used for landing on the opposite end.

So, when landing on 24L, tune nav1 to the ils freq for 6R.

There are 2 things that differ when flying a back course.
1-There is no glide slope. You must manually fly the visual glide slope.
2-The CDI needle on the VOR gauge is 'reverse sensing'. You must steer AWAY from the CDI needle to get back on course.

If you engage the [REV] button on the autopilot it will aquire and fly the back course path. You will have to manually fly the visual glide slope.

Then there is no reason to use Autopilot if you have to MANUALLY fly it in now, is there?? If you want ILS Approach, ask for 24R or 6L or 6R.

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Reply #4 - Jun 25^th, 2011 at 12:23am

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Then there is no reason to use Autopilot if you have to MANUALLY fly it in now, is there??

Well, yes there is. It's the same reason you can, if you wish, use the autopilot to assist with any other non-precission instrument approach.

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Reply #5 - Jun 25^th, 2011 at 4:45am

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Thanks Guy's,
But when I request another runway from ATC, they tell me to sidestep to 24L. So that means they are not transmitting 24L's frequencey. Looks like I've gotta get good and land manually.

This has been very helpful

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