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« Created by: Radio Homer on: Mar 28th, 2011 at 1:59pm »

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Mar 28th, 2011 at 1:59pm

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Im just wondering what people prefer when they download textures and aircrafts.

do you like them to be in a .zip file so you have to move them to the correct folders or do you like installers that install the texture/aircraft for you??

let me know what you think...
 

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Reply #1 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 2:52pm

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I always prefer zip folders, that way you can see exactly what is inside the folder after you have extracted the contents, something you cannot do with an .exe installer.

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Reply #2 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 5:42pm

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Simply Zipped is also the way I prefer.
Beter even is when it is zipped with the following structure:
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This way, in Windows 7, you can simply copy the contents of the unzipped folder into your FSX root folder and choose Merge. You can than choose if you want to overwrite (for example effect files) files or not.
Only 1 copy action required.
Also the flexibility to change things (labels in aircraft.cfg for instance) before installing.
 
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Reply #3 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 6:10pm

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sweet i will keep this in mind next time i upload a texture
 

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Reply #4 - Apr 1st, 2011 at 10:12am

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Pretty conclusive, huh?  Grin

I never trust auto-installers anymore, but I should explain "trust". It's not that I think addon developers are up to no good, it's just that I've spent many years modifying so many of my sims original files that most people would probably never mess with. Autogen files, ground textures, effects files and textures, etc. I hate nothing more than using an auto-installer, and finding out that it has replaced one of my modified files with one included in the newly installed package. (Sadly, I had to learn that lesson the hard way) Now, even if a download has and installer, I'll point it to extract into a temp folder, from which I'll transfer the new files manually. This at least will allow me to say no to any "replace file" warnings. I think you'll find that most simmers prefer this approach. It's nice for developers to try to make the install process easier on the end user, but many times auto-installers just mean more hassle and headache.

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Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2011 at 10:32pm

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.ZIP all teh way.  (which also mean .rar's get flushed down the bit bucket, too)  I rarely let auto-installers "do their thing".  I prefer to "auto-install" into a temp folder, then manually install, mainly because amy add-ons that are adapted to FSX from FS9 still try to install into FS9.  Needles to say, that don't work very well.
 

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Reply #6 - Apr 3rd, 2011 at 11:33pm

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I too prefer zip files. Auto installers are ok,
IF
(that's a big if, in case you didn't get it Roll Eyes  Grin) they allow you to redirect them to the folder of your choice and then do a manual install.
 

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Reply #7 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 4:00am

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I also prefer to install manually after downloading a ZIP file and if I have to use an installer, I always try to install it into a desktop folder before moving it manually to FSX.

While on the subject of downloads can I just say that I don't like the massive files some developers put together, the ones with perhaps several models, two or three panels and maybe  5 or even 10 different texture folders.

If I wanted all of these variations, I would much prefer to download and install them individually rather than having to download one massive file and then manually remove what I don't want.

I hugely appreciate all of the work that developers, freeware and payware, and would never complain that something is not quite right (OK I have done so twice, once when the plane bounced all over the place when on the runway before crashing, the developer had inadvertently uploaded the wrong air file and once when a payware plane had such bad textures it looked like a Picasso painting and wouldn't fly with force feedback enabled).

Sorry for the rant.
 
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Reply #8 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 7:33am

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much prefer a manual install from a zip file, at least if I suddenly get problems I have what's been copied by me and can start trying recover problems, you don't normally see what an auto installer is doing, therefore maybe harder to recover.

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Reply #9 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 9:16am

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ZIP (or RAR) files only.
I hate auto-installers. I HATE THEM, from the very bottom of my heart.
 
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Reply #10 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 9:37am

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Sad I never use exe compilers ,I much rather to people put things where they supposed to be , I never heard of any complaints about it ,while I heard a lot of trouble by people using auto installations in other airplanes  all the time including here ..

Zip its the King and its wining so far
 

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Reply #11 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 5:26pm

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7zip is my preferred  Wink
 

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Reply #12 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 5:46pm

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Zip it up and send it out.  Cool
 

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Reply #13 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 6:38pm

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I prefer ZIP files as well.  I hate going to my "Remove Program" list to find a couple of dozen aircraft installers listed there.  I also don't like how many auto installers add shortcuts and folders to the Start Menu/Desktop/FS folder.
 
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Reply #14 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 9:47pm

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I prefer both. It depends on the add-on really. If it's a simple repaint, zip file. An entire airport or add-on fs plugin...exe.
 
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Reply #15 - Apr 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm
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Boikat wrote on Apr 3rd, 2011 at 10:32pm:
.ZIP all teh way.  (which also mean .rar's get flushed down the bit bucket, too)  I rarely let auto-installers "do their thing".  I prefer to "auto-install" into a temp folder, then manually install, mainly because amy add-ons that are adapted to FSX from FS9 still try to install into FS9.  Needles to say, that don't work very well.


I'll second that motion! 

The poll showed 35 - 3 when I voted.
 
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Reply #16 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 2:41am

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I would like the downloads to be .zip files only which help one to install the downloaded files in the right folders. Smiley
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Reply #17 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 8:29am

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Like the greater majority of experienced FS users, I value control over the FS environment, both inside the sim AND under its bonnet, so to speak.

Zip files are always the best for me. In fact, on average when I find an auto-installing .EXE file I always make so it spills its guts inside a temporary folder for me to then manually move the parts were they should. Smiley

No offense of any kind is meant to those who take their time to build the auto-installing files, of course. They do it to make the life of unexperienced simmer better, but everyone is entitled to his or her own preferences, and mine lean towards the use of Zip files. That's all folks Wink
 

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Reply #18 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 10:50am

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I agree with the majority of people here and set up a ZIP file with folders for easy manual install. I do this because pretty much everyone here knows what they are doing and it is smart to look at what you are installing in your HD.

If you enjoy using installers for practice/learning or you think at looks more professional than go right ahead and put it inside the ZIP along with the manual folders, giving users a chance to decide which installation they prefer to use.

Remember that for missions(with scenery), aircraft(panel/cabinet files and gauges) and such that some beginners would prefer the auto install at first then move on to manual installs. Providing a file list helps them learn whats going on.

Just my opinion  Grin
 

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Reply #19 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 11:17pm

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I'm lazy, so I'm all for .exe.  This is mostly given the fact that certain addons are just so complex and tedious to install properly.  After flightsimming since 5.1, I still can't go over installing addons like Posky with all their bells and whistles without constantly having to consult documentation and figuring out where they want (or don't say) certain files to go.  I mean, I know enough about how FS works to install some basic addons, but some still drive me crazy.  If I can save myself a hassle, I would Smiley
 

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Reply #20 - Apr 29th, 2011 at 1:50am

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I like both. I just dont like the freeware .exe that you have to go back and fix... Undecided
 
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Reply #21 - Apr 29th, 2011 at 8:37pm

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   I like the zip file. I download it to my desktop, make any adjustments, delete useless read me's etc... Then I can place everything where it belongs and nothing gets overwritten.

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Reply #22 - May 1st, 2011 at 12:16pm

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I prefer .rar then .zip, sometimes .exe with the caveats mentioned afore!
 

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Reply #23 - May 1st, 2011 at 1:43pm

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ZIPpitty Doo Da all the way...I can then choose to manually install or use FSXAddit.... which works great most of the time.
 

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Reply #24 - May 1st, 2011 at 7:53pm

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I can go either way on this. I feel if someone goes the the work of providing an a/c for the flight sim community, the last thing we should do is quibble about their work. My thanks for the people that provide us with these great a/c. Just wish I had the talent to do this too.
 
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Reply #25 - May 1st, 2011 at 7:56pm

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I can go either way on this. I feel if someone goes the the work of providing an a/c for the flight sim community, the last thing we should do is quibble about their work. My thanks for the people that provide us with these great a/c. Just wish I had the talent to do this too.
 
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Reply #26 - Dec 12th, 2011 at 12:23am

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I prefer .zip to .exe mainly because I have windows 7 so fsx is in programme files (x86) not programme files and some installers don't realise that.
 

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Reply #27 - Dec 12th, 2011 at 1:57am
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Zip files where the only instructions are "extract to FSX folder". No other nonsense.
 
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