Simviation Forum - Need a NON-TURBO Beaver!!

Feb 19^th, 2011 at 8:35pm

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Can anyone tell me where I can find a nice, freeware download of a a Non-Turbo Amphib-Beaver? Or even a wheeled-Beaver? Must have a good VC.....

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Reply #1 - Feb 19^th, 2011 at 9:00pm

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As opposed to the default FSX Beaver? (or did that come with Acceleration?)

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Reply #2 - Feb 19^th, 2011 at 9:08pm

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I have Acceleration, and unfortunately the default Beaver is not an amphib.

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Reply #3 - Feb 19^th, 2011 at 10:06pm

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AvroArrow wrote on Feb 19^th, 2011 at 9:08pm:

I have Acceleration, and unfortunately the default Beaver is not an amphib.

As far as I know, you're looking at payware. I don't know of a freeware amphib beaver.....wish I did Embarrassed

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Reply #4 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:24pm

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Indeed the only amphib Beaver is payware. I wish the default were amphib too :/

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Reply #5 - Feb 21^st, 2011 at 7:05am

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Hi avroarrow,

I've not added a Beaver from anywhere yet my fsx with acceleration has an amphib Beaver.

I don't know if turbo or not, not flown it.

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Reply #6 - Feb 21^st, 2011 at 7:36am

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EVVFCX wrote on Feb 21^st, 2011 at 7:05am:

Hi avroarrow,

I've not added a Beaver from anywhere yet my fsx with acceleration has an amphib Beaver.

I don't know if turbo or not, not flown it.

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I think you're mistaken Steve. The FSX default Beaver has floats but no wheels.

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Reply #7 - Feb 21^st, 2011 at 7:49am

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Hi hagar,,

OK, thought I'd seen wheels embedded in the floats.

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Reply #8 - Feb 21^st, 2011 at 8:35am

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Yeah, that one's a sneaky trick. Floats only.

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Reply #9 - Feb 21^st, 2011 at 4:29pm

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By non-turbo do you mean turbine? Non turbo usually means a normally aspirated piston engine, instead of a turbocharger or supercharger, and I was not aware the Beaver came with such an engine.

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Reply #10 - Feb 21^st, 2011 at 4:41pm

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DaveSims wrote on Feb 21^st, 2011 at 4:29pm:

By non-turbo do you mean turbine? Non turbo usually means a normally aspirated piston engine, instead of a turbocharger or supercharger, and I was not aware the Beaver came with such an engine.

He means non-turbine. The standard DHC-2 Beaver powered by the Pratt & Whitney R-985 radial engine. http://www.bush-planes.com/DeHavilland-DHC-2-Beaver.html

Like the default FSX model only fitted with wheels.

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Reply #11 - Feb 21^st, 2011 at 5:00pm

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Yes, I mean a radial engine powered Beaver as opposed to a Turbo-Beaver.

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Reply #12 - Feb 21^st, 2011 at 10:56pm

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Any recommendations for a nive payware version then? Must have a good VC....

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Reply #13 - Feb 22^nd, 2011 at 1:16am

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AvroArrow wrote on Feb 21^st, 2011 at 10:56pm:

Any recommendations for a nive payware version then? Must have a good VC....

http://www.aerosoft.com/cgi-local/us/iboshop.cgi?showd490!20,5750058260,10389
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Reply #14 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 1:43am

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Definately recommend the Aerosoft Beaver. It's a ton of fun.

About the Turbo/Turbine debate. The turbine versions of the DeHavilland Beaver and Otter, DHC-2T and DHC-3T, and know as Turbo Beavers and Turbo Otters, even though they are not piston engines.

And the original Pratt radial in the Beaver is supercharged. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-985

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Reply #15 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 1:12pm

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I picked up Beaver X and It is amazing!! Thanks for the help!

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Reply #16 - Mar 8^th, 2011 at 8:03am

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Hi all,

Sorry to bring this thread up again: I recently flew and landed the DH Beaver, just after landing and I tried turning to dock but found I'd no rudder.

My rudders were not lowered: Now my question is that if this Beaver wasn't intended to be an amphibian why would it have rudders that could be raised?

Does the real Beaver that is not amphibian have water rudders that can be raised and lowered?

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Reply #17 - Mar 8^th, 2011 at 9:42am

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EVVFCX wrote on Mar 8^th, 2011 at 8:03am:

Does the real Beaver that is not amphibian have water rudders that can be raised and lowered?

Yes, without them you would have no directional control at taxi speeds due to the lack of airflow passing the rudder on the tail.

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Reply #18 - Mar 8^th, 2011 at 11:10am

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EVVFCX wrote on Mar 8^th, 2011 at 8:03am:

Hi all,

Sorry to bring this thread up again: I recently flew and landed the DH Beaver, just after landing and I tried turning to dock but found I'd no rudder.

My rudders were not lowered: Now my question is that if this Beaver wasn't intended to be an amphibian why would it have rudders that could be raised?

Does the real Beaver that is not amphibian have water rudders that can be raised and lowered?

regards

Steve

Somwhere there is a thread where Doug (Flying Trucker), who has real world experience (lots of it) with many types including float and amphibian, explained this. It has to do with taxi speed. If I remember correctly, when you get up on the 'step', faster than a taxi you would use around the dock area, as well as takeoff, you don't want the rudders down. But at slower speeds you need them.

Though the Piper Cub float version only has one rudder, it too is designed to be raised.

If God intended aircraft engines to have horizontally opposed engines, Pratt and Whitney would have made them that way.

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Reply #19 - Mar 9^th, 2011 at 7:38am

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cheers guys, it took me too long to realise what was happening, I ended beached Grin

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Reply #20 - Mar 9^th, 2011 at 12:25pm

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On floats... water rudders up just before you begin your takeoff run, and rudders down on landing once you slow to taxi speed.

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